Not going to lose sleep over him, I don't really have anything nice to say. Just glad this was a 3 star and not a 5 star. If anything it only hurts the depth on the roster. He isn't better than Tobias or better than any of the 3 WR's that got playing time as freshman this year. Just by looking at him and how this played out he isn't a fit here. Would rather lose him now than a year from now. The right thing to do would been to decommitt two months ago then take your visits.
'22 LA WR Amoron Walker (Michigan Signee)
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All my homies hate Michigan.
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Moving on. Full court press on Austin/Lenzy and take Davis and Wilkins if they want another year. Pad the numbers in the portal.
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Man, we deserve so much better than this.
Amorion and his family ought to be ashamed of themselves.
Good riddance, bunch of liars.
Amorion and his family ought to be ashamed of themselves.
Good riddance, bunch of liars.
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I have a newborn so I basically don’t sleep anymore. Not sure what excuses other people have.
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I did it five times. You have my congratulations and sympathy.
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Look at the bright side 3 major programs that went through coaching changes recently (USC,Florida and Miami) aren't even in the top 50 in recruiting this year. Just heard that on the radio. USC moved from 107 too 99 so far. Freeman did a hell of a job keeping a great class together.
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Oh hey I don't think you'd mentioned that before. Congrats dude!
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Rasputin blames the parents for putting the "i" in a moron.
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What about LSU?
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This dude played in a state championship on 12/11. I suspect he needed an insurance policy for his senior season and knew ND would stand by him. scUM might have sold it as a troll/big splash/headline grabber, but at the end of the day there is no honor among thieves and don’t think scUM wanted to carry the liability on their books.
I’m done with this series, One day you wake up and realize “Don’t be that!” Best I can hope for him. Hopefully everyone gets it out today so we don’t have to keep seeing this thread on the front page.
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I've seen 16-19 range.
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The first official IE merch is gonna be "I'm with Rasputin (no, not that one)" shirts. You're my nominee for newcomer of the year, and you're doing it on the power of 31 posts over 6 months.
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All those programs went through coaching changes to get their programs out of the dumpster. We just had one of the best coaches in ND history leave at the peak of the program in decades. Not to discredit Freemans work the last week keeping the class together but its not like he took over a shitty roster that has been in the dumps. ND has won 10 games or 5 the last 5 years and appeared in CFPs. Big difference.
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I mean, I'm usually down to rag on Loy but it makes sense that the reporters thought Walker was still Irish because the last time the family talked to reporters they said as much. Walker was bidding between the schools and Michigan offered a guaranteed NIL (which is impermissible) so he went to them at the last hour.
I like our odds too on Tate, but that's just me doing my due diligence and not buying into the idea that OSU WR recruiting will simply always trump us.
What happens with Del though could be interesting on many levels though...
I like our odds too on Tate, but that's just me doing my due diligence and not buying into the idea that OSU WR recruiting will simply always trump us.
What happens with Del though could be interesting on many levels though...
Yeah, another poster got butthurt I called Walker immature and that he lacked integrity, but he is immature & lacked integrity…he literally told reporters and the ND staff the day before he was signing with ND & the Michigan talk was BS. And acting like 17-18 year olds can’t simply be honest is what’s wrong with society today. Posters calling 17-18 year olds kids & saying we are too hard on them are acting like was are asking them to do some crazy grown ups stuff, when all we are asking them to do is DON’T LIE.
Seriously, they aren’t old enough to tell the truth? Freaking 12 year olds are mature enough to tell the truth. If he decommitted, like Moore or Williams, fine. But straight lying to ND’s staffs’ faces hours before signing is 4 year old stuff. Like when your kid has chocolate all over his face & tells you straight up you are crazy, they didn’t eat chocolate. Walker took a visit to Michigan & asked Michigan reporters not to report it, lied to ND about being sick, then when they caught him in his lie he flat out lied to them again. Then DID IT AGAIN (lied to the staff) when he went to Michigan instead of ND a weekend he was supposed to visit. Then according to Prister, the parents joined in & lied to ND the day before too.
Immature. No integrity. Untrustworthy. Period.
Seriously, they aren’t old enough to tell the truth? Freaking 12 year olds are mature enough to tell the truth. If he decommitted, like Moore or Williams, fine. But straight lying to ND’s staffs’ faces hours before signing is 4 year old stuff. Like when your kid has chocolate all over his face & tells you straight up you are crazy, they didn’t eat chocolate. Walker took a visit to Michigan & asked Michigan reporters not to report it, lied to ND about being sick, then when they caught him in his lie he flat out lied to them again. Then DID IT AGAIN (lied to the staff) when he went to Michigan instead of ND a weekend he was supposed to visit. Then according to Prister, the parents joined in & lied to ND the day before too.
Immature. No integrity. Untrustworthy. Period.
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I think you need to take a breath. But what do i know?
I think adults judging high-school kid's moral value
is wild. But maybe you've been in his position and have been an elite athlete.
Maybe you have been in the same neighborhood and family structure as him... Perhaps you know what its like.
I for one think its best to let a kid get out of high-school before you start... how is it said? Cast stones.
But... yeah. Keep on that.
I have a feeling if you were under half the powered microscope he was, lots of weird shit would come out... and you're not even good at football... nor been invited to Notre Dame.
But keep at it. I'm sure it feels good.
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It isn’t immature lol. The kid got offered guaranteed NIL money and made a switch at the last second. By most accounts he was still committed to, and planning to sign with ND until Michigan (illegally) upped the ante and ND of course wouldn’t match that. What I don’t get is why you’re so butthurt about it? Would you rather he have signed and left before playing a snap?
The part I have an issue with is you coming on here and attacking this kid’s character. You don’t know him. You’ve never met him. You damn sure wouldn’t say any of this to his face. You need someone to be mad at? Be mad at his parents for allowing him to be steered in this direction. Be mad at Del/Tommy for putting their eggs in this basket.
I work with kids this age for a living and I can tell you quite a few of them have made some stupid decisions, some way more idiotic than the way this kid handled a process that a vaaaaast majority couldn’t comprehend. But, that doesn’t make them bad kids. It makes them kids. Young adults.
I’d bet anything if the situation was reversed and we flipped a kid who had been staunchly committed elsewhere, you wouldn’t say a damn thing and would be excited that we flipped a talented prospect. Don’t be a hypocrite. This shit happens in recruiting and if you can’t take it and are going to get your feelings hurt by the choices made by 17-18 year olds, then maybe you should, as I suggested before, just log off.
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This is just overall a stupid post. You act like you know all the facts surrounding the NIL deal when you weren’t involved and know nothing concrete. And it wasn’t just the kid lying to Notre Dame it was his parents,who should be held accountable since they are the adults. It goes to show the values modeled to the kid when the parents are lying up to the last minute as well.
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The truth has a way of landing somewhere in the middle. Integrity always counts for something, no matter the age. That’s what we hope everyone is taught from childhood and learned through adulthood. We know this is not the case. We also know that people (as in everyone) make mistakes, but many not in ways that can be so easily scrutinized as these recruits. We can’t play psychologist here, because the results are varied and depending on case-by-case. It’s okay to criticize the actions of any person, but to measure their character off a mistake seems myopic, but we do it all the time. It’s easier to criticize than to understand, and the details that make the full picture are often inaccessible to the public. Anyway, there’s truth on both sides.
Oh, and Tate. Maybe he comes to ND. Maybe he doesn’t. Life goes on.
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I never claimed to know all the facts, but it’s been reported that Michigan offered him some guaranteed NIL deal to get him to sign, which is an impermissible benefit as the school cannot directly engage in brokering NIL deals.
Again, wouldn’t that be the parents’ fault? Hold them accountable if you need a scapegoat, I guess.
I’m gonna hop off this one before you boomers derail Tate’s thread into another series of “Kids today” and “Get off my lawn” posts.
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This is from a Michigan Recruiting Insider:
Every week TMI’s Sam Webb, Steve Lorenz, and Brice Marich come together for a podcast called ‘The Michigan Recruiting Insider.’ Each show offers a deep dive into Michigan football and basketball recruiting, with unmatched insight and intel on the Wolverines targets and recruiting strategies. In the excerpt below Sam explains how Michigan was able to flip Walker from Notre Dame.
Sam Webb: “… as you guys know, I made it down here to Louisiana and made it over to Ponchatoula. (Amorion Walker) said a couple of weeks ago, 'look, I'm ready to go to Michigan.' I think that he had been leaning that way for some time. I think he had been leaning that way since the Under the Lights game (vs Washington). People want to know what it was that maybe put Michigan over the top with Amorion Walker. I know there's some speculation in Notre Dame circles that hey, 'it was NIL.' Notre Dame came strong with NIL. I don't think that that was the distinguishing characteristic for Amorion with Michigan. I think it was his connection with the coaching staff. Both programs have rich tradition, picturesque campuses, iconic stadiums, and opportunities to play early. But I think he was closer to Michigan's staff, and I've been making this point for some time.”
The rest of the article talks about how all the Michigan coaches, including Harbaugh, talked with him every day yet Del was the only one recruiting him hard and BK talked with him “once every blue moon”. Michigan out recruited ND, nothing to do with NIL money. And Walker was ready to go to Michigan a couple of weeks ago so him and his parents telling ND he is still committed the day before was pure BS.
Every week TMI’s Sam Webb, Steve Lorenz, and Brice Marich come together for a podcast called ‘The Michigan Recruiting Insider.’ Each show offers a deep dive into Michigan football and basketball recruiting, with unmatched insight and intel on the Wolverines targets and recruiting strategies. In the excerpt below Sam explains how Michigan was able to flip Walker from Notre Dame.
Sam Webb: “… as you guys know, I made it down here to Louisiana and made it over to Ponchatoula. (Amorion Walker) said a couple of weeks ago, 'look, I'm ready to go to Michigan.' I think that he had been leaning that way for some time. I think he had been leaning that way since the Under the Lights game (vs Washington). People want to know what it was that maybe put Michigan over the top with Amorion Walker. I know there's some speculation in Notre Dame circles that hey, 'it was NIL.' Notre Dame came strong with NIL. I don't think that that was the distinguishing characteristic for Amorion with Michigan. I think it was his connection with the coaching staff. Both programs have rich tradition, picturesque campuses, iconic stadiums, and opportunities to play early. But I think he was closer to Michigan's staff, and I've been making this point for some time.”
The rest of the article talks about how all the Michigan coaches, including Harbaugh, talked with him every day yet Del was the only one recruiting him hard and BK talked with him “once every blue moon”. Michigan out recruited ND, nothing to do with NIL money. And Walker was ready to go to Michigan a couple of weeks ago so him and his parents telling ND he is still committed the day before was pure BS.
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this is a neat Carnell Tate thread yall got going here.
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Didn't you add to it just an hour ago?
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“Notre Dame came strong with NIL” is the point where I knew he had bad info from his source. ND does not come “strong” with NIL for anyone.
