'21 CA QB Tyler Buchner (ND FB -> Bama FB -> ND LAX???)

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I’ve never felt better about the decision. Buchner looks like the real deal and is ballin right now. But, I believe he plays a lower level of competition. So, just keep that in mind.
 

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I’ve never felt better about the decision. Buchner looks like the real deal and is ballin right now. But, I believe he plays a lower level of competition. So, just keep that in mind.

Buchner is a legit top 20 recruit. JJ... is going to fit in well at Michigan.
 

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Saw in the thread someone corrected him and he's 33-67.

He had a horrible game against St Louis Cardinal Ritter where he was 16-37 and picked off 4 times.

Still, ND got the guy with the highest ceiling and he looks healthy. He will move up the rankings and could end up #1 if he does well at camps and Elite 11.

He will get dinged for his competition vs guys like McCarthy, McCord and Vandergriff who will play solid comp throughout their schedules but who cares.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stats: <br><br>JJ McCarthy: (3 games)-Michigan<br>23-67 418 passing yards, 5 INTs, 3 passing TDs, 1 rushing TD, and 23 yards rushing. <br><br>Tyler Buchner: (4 games)-ND<br>70-107 1257 passing yards, 3 INTs, 15 passing TDs, 7 rushing TDs, 480 yards rushing. <br><br>Rankings need to be updated. Thanks.</p>— Notre Dame Recruiting (@NDrecruiting01) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDrecruiting01/status/1174105704665362432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This isn’t an official Notre Dame Twitter thread is it? Just some fanboy? (I hope? B/c if it’s staff, this is a very Michigan thing to do.)
 

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This isn’t an official Notre Dame Twitter thread is it? Just some fanboy? (I hope? B/c if it’s staff, this is a very Michigan thing to do.)

It's fan made. All the blue blood schools have multiple accounts like this made by fans. And coaching staffs can't mention recruits by name until they sign their LOI's.
 

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It's fan made. All the blue blood schools have multiple accounts like this made by fans. And coaching staffs can't mention recruits by name until they sign their LOI's.

That's what I figured (and, I suppose, would have seen if I'd clicked through to the actual Twitter profile). Still. Can we maybe not rag on high school kids who wanted to go to ND but got recruited over?
It's not even like JJ spurned us for Michigan and we had to "settle" for Buchner.
 

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Didn't realize you can redshirt in High school.

I don't know about where you guys are from, but a football powerhouse by me (southern tigers) the team w/ 5* julian fleming(osu commit), 3* gaige garcia(michigan commit), 3*cal hallady (michigan st commit), unranked max tillet (several d1 offers), 3* preston zachman(he is going to commit to wisconsin this weekend)

ALL of these kids "red shirted" and repeated a grade in middle school but that's how this school just keeps churning out players who go onto div 1, div2 football

Southern Columbia Area High School (Catawissa, Pennsylvania) set a state record by winning its 76th straight regular season game on Friday.

The school hasn’t lost a regular season game in eight years
 

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Do we know level of competition? Honestly for us to win an NC we need a heisman candidate at QB, we need someone to pan out, whether Buchner or Phil but we can’t have average QBs anymore. It’s been 10 years since we had a QB that could put the ball anywhere he wanted and had great numbers.

I realize its totally up to the player but wouldn't he be better off playing next year at one of those "football acadamies" ?
 

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I read somewhere that ND coaches privately think he will compete for the job as soon as he arrives. Can anyone who knows more than me confirm? That would indicate he's a really special talent given how that's never even been considered for any of Kelly's prior QBs.
 

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I read somewhere that ND coaches privately think he will compete for the job as soon as he arrives. Can anyone who knows more than me confirm? That would indicate he's a really special talent given how that's never even been considered for any of Kelly's prior QBs.
My guess is they are probably very excited to have him (as are we!), but it's also mostly hyperbole. IMO he's not going to beat out a 5th year PJ for the starting job.

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My guess is they are probably very excited to have him (as are we!), but it's also mostly hyperbole. IMO he's not going to beat out a 5th year PJ for the starting job.

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I am not trying to be negative here at all but IMO I doubt both Book and PJ will be here next year. I believe that if PJ beats Book out he transfers and vice versa. I could be dead wrong. I am not saying anything negative about either one but they are both ballers and ballers don’t want to sit on the bench.
 

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I read somewhere that ND coaches privately think he will compete for the job as soon as he arrives. Can anyone who knows more than me confirm? That would indicate he's a really special talent given how that's never even been considered for any of Kelly's prior QBs.

Most think that -- depending on what happens with PJ -- he will either immediately start or sit one year and then start. But the discussions around the program also had Book going pro after this year, and now that we're a third of the way into the season that hasn't materialized. Jurkovec will be a true senior when Buchner gets here and there is a lot of stuff left to play out. But, IMO, Buchner is the best QB prospect ND has had committed since Clausen.
 

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I am not trying to be negative here at all but IMO I doubt both Book and PJ will be here next year. I believe that if PJ beats Book out he transfers and vice versa. I could be dead wrong. I am not saying anything negative about either one but they are both ballers and ballers don&#146;t want to sit on the bench.
PJ would have a 5th year still in your scenario - 2021. Tyler's frosh season.

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I thought PJ was going to be the best since Clausen

Well that can be true, and the former can also be true.

If A > B and A > C, you can still have C > B.

The only premier prospects ND has had since Clausen have been Crist, Wimbush, and Jurkovec. Crist was a guy that jumped up the rankings based on the All-American Bowl and didn't pan out. Wimbush was #46 overall, Jurkovec was #83 overall. In my opinion, it would take a criminal conspiracy for Buchner not to be a top 20 prospect when all is said and done. He has everything you want in a QB prospect, and is already #62 overall in the composite.

He is still behind guys like JJ McCarthy (lol) because of his injury. I've also seen guys like Caleb Williams live (plays in my conference, awesome kid) and Buchner is easily that good. So I expect there to be course correction in the rankings sooner rather than later.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2021 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> QB commit Tyler Buchner added 7 more touchdowns to his season total on Friday night. <a href="https://t.co/AfXxojKaTm">https://t.co/AfXxojKaTm</a> <a href="https://t.co/L8H2tFe6fw">pic.twitter.com/L8H2tFe6fw</a></p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/1182990189481877504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damn guys, can’t believe we passed on JJ McCarthy.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2021 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> QB commit Tyler Buchner added 7 more touchdowns to his season total on Friday night. <a href="https://t.co/AfXxojKaTm">https://t.co/AfXxojKaTm</a> <a href="https://t.co/L8H2tFe6fw">pic.twitter.com/L8H2tFe6fw</a></p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/1182990189481877504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damn guys, can’t believe we passed on JJ McCarthy.

Very impressive, especially the runs.


He could use a ball security drill or two though.
The ball flapping around immediately drew my attention.
 
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Anyone listen to the podcast interview with his coach a few weeks ago. Coach rates him.
 

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This kid good enough to start 4 years if he wanted?

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This kid good enough to start 4 years if he wanted?

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If he beats out 5*Phil in 2021 enjoy him for that season becuz Vince McMahon will break the bank to make him a One & Done.
 
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