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Posted in the Transfer Time thread, but this is absolutely incredible.



Gotta think some SEC team is going to give him millions.
 

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Pratt from Tulane
Seems unlikely that Pratt would beat Card to the punch though with his bowl game being not being until Jan. 2nd.

The way it seems to be setting up here is, if Leary and Armstrong are off the table and there are no other names on the board, then if the staff wants a transfer QB it's pretty much all-in on Card for now.
 

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Hypothetically, if we were to strike out on QB's from other teams in the portal and Drew Pyne is still without a home, do we think he'd come back?
 

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Hypothetically, if we were to strike out on QB's from other teams in the portal and Drew Pyne is still without a home, do we think he'd come back?
We will get someone. We’re not going to completely strike out (just as we didn’t in ‘23 QB recruiting).
The question is how far down the list do you go before you reach the guys where you’d rather have Pyne? Slovis? Spencer Samuels?
 

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We will get someone. We’re not going to completely strike out (just as we didn’t in ‘23 QB recruiting).
The question is how far down the list do you go before you reach the guys where you’d rather have Pyne? Slovis? Spencer Samuels?
Oh, I agree. I was just wondering if worst case scenario Pyne would be interested in coming back should he still be without a home.
 

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you are concerned if the guy who's spot on the roster equates to your firing of the OC has a spot to come back?
I'm just wondering if worst comes to worst if he could be brought back since he would almost certainly be the best available at that point and we need bodies given Buchner's injury history and Minchey coming off an injury as well.

Regarding Rees, my thoughts on him are well-known. 74th in total offense and 52nd in scoring offense shouldn't cut it at a program like ND.
 

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A little outside the box thinking could easily solve the problem if the coaches want Card and he wants to come and is only one class away from graduation. Almost all classes can be taken remotely these days so he could do to graduate while taking enough classes at ND to be eligible for spring practice.
Admissions is a popular bogey man here but this is more about working thru the case with the MBA hierarchy and coming up with a plan everyone is ok with.
If he’s a dean’s list student at a good school and it’s only one class I’m pretty confident it could be worked out.
 

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I'm just wondering if worst comes to worst if he could be brought back since he would almost certainly be the best available at that point and we need bodies given Buchner's injury history and Minchey coming off an injury as well.

Regarding Rees, my thoughts on him are well-known. 74th in total offense and 52nd in scoring offense shouldn't cut it at a program like ND.
but you want to make sure we could take back the qb who created those rankings?
 

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I'm just wondering if worst comes to worst if he could be brought back since he would almost certainly be the best available at that point and we need bodies given Buchner's injury history and Minchey coming off an injury as well.

Regarding Rees, my thoughts on him are well-known. 74th in total offense and 52nd in scoring offense shouldn't cut it at a program like ND.
I don't think this is likely but if we're talking worst case scenarios. I think the worst case scenario should be, we do a full reset with Minchey as your starter. That, at the very least, provides a young QB with upside some game film/reps for the future. In no way shape or form do I want to see another 8-4 season in which no progress was made at QB.
 

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I'm just wondering if worst comes to worst if he could be brought back since he would almost certainly be the best available at that point and we need bodies given Buchner's injury history and Minchey coming off an injury as well.

Regarding Rees, my thoughts on him are well-known. 74th in total offense and 52nd in scoring offense shouldn't cut it at a program like ND.
Especially when you have a height challenged QB throwing behind the sequoias.
 

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but you want to make sure we could take back the qb who created those rankings?
If he's the best available, yes. Both things can be true. Rees isn't a great evaluator and isn't all that special as a play-caller, and Pyne could be the best available of all QB's in the portal. If we strike out, and I doubt we will, and Pyne is still without a home and is the best available QB, should we not try to bring him back? Can you imagine if Buchner gets injured again?
 

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I’d probably vote to roll with Angeli and Minchey behind Buchner over bringing back Pyne at this point. You’d have two high-ceiling guys plus Angeli with another year under his belt.

But we will get a transfer regardless, really just a question of who. It’s one of the more attractive spots out there.
 

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If he's the best available, yes. Both things can be true. Rees isn't a great evaluator and isn't all that special as a play-caller, and Pyne could be the best available of all QB's in the portal. If we strike out, and I doubt we will, and Pyne is still without a home and is the best available QB, should we not try to bring him back? Can you imagine if Buchner gets injured again?

Does the forced Rees stuff never tire you?
 

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If he's the best available, yes. Both things can be true. Rees isn't a great evaluator and isn't all that special as a play-caller, and Pyne could be the best available of all QB's in the portal. If we strike out, and I doubt we will, and Pyne is still without a home and is the best available QB, should we not try to bring him back? Can you imagine if Buchner gets injured again?
Yes, I can imagine that. At which point you play for the future. Pyne does nothing but keep you at mediocrity.
 

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Yes, I can imagine that. At which point you play for the future. Pyne does nothing but keep you at mediocrity.
No offense to the kid, but I hope we never see another QB like Pyne at ND again.

QBs like Pyne conjure the same same feelings I felt about Coach Kelly the last few years; he can win you the games against teams of lesser talent at a high clip. He can win you none of the games against equal or better talent, ever.
 

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If he's the best available, yes. Both things can be true. Rees isn't a great evaluator and isn't all that special as a play-caller, and Pyne could be the best available of all QB's in the portal. If we strike out, and I doubt we will, and Pyne is still without a home and is the best available QB, should we not try to bring him back? Can you imagine if Buchner gets injured again?
you just said his results dont cut it though. Wouldn't we be better off seeing what we have with the other QBs already in the building?

I'm just wondering if worst comes to worst if he could be brought back since he would almost certainly be the best available at that point and we need bodies given Buchner's injury history and Minchey coming off an injury as well.

Regarding Rees, my thoughts on him are well-known. 74th in total offense and 52nd in scoring offense shouldn't cut it at a program like ND.
 

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you just said his results dont cut it though. Wouldn't we be better off seeing what we have with the other QBs already in the building?
Absolutely, and he should be gone at season's end.

The problem, outside of evaluations, with respect to the current (including Minchey) QB room is that Minchey and Buchner are both coming off of injury. I'd bring in the best possible body to compete. That's 50% of the QB room, and that's not including RP3 who couldn't play dead in a Western.

Ultimately, this is going to be moot as I expect them to land a quality grad transfer who will start next year.
 

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Absolutely, and he should be gone at season's end.

The problem, outside of evaluations, with respect to the current (including Minchey) QB room is that Minchey and Buchner are both coming off of injury. I'd bring in the best possible body to compete. That's 50% of the QB room, and that's not including RP3 who couldn't play dead in a Western.

Ultimately, this is going to be moot as I expect them to land a quality grad transfer who will start next year.
me thinks thou doth protest too much
 

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What do you all think about Davis Brin, Tulsa QB? It sounds like his OL was horrible (bottom 5) so of course he got beat up and record was not good, but he cut his interceptions in half and seems like a solid 6'2" QB who could be a completely different story with a much better OL supporting him. He had a great game against OSU in '21. Obviously, more of a last resort, but maybe still worth pursuing if ND loses out on the QBs we're targeting, as mentioned here. Tulsa QB Davis Brin Will Enter the Transfer Portal
 

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Since life is pain, please don’t forget the most plausible scenarios:

A) We strike out on everyone

B) Buchner looks decent in bowl game, and it causes either:

1. Transfer QBs to look elsewhere bc they don’t want to compete, and we find out the bowl performance was fool’s gold in week 1 next season

2. Staff to cool search, and they find out the bowl game performance was fool’s gold in week 1 next season

C) We get someone and he sucks


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