2018 College Football Playoff

[Irish YJ]

It happens. I believe Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Nebraska either have legitimate legislation or De Facto legistlation that prevents local schools from even moving up to FCS, much less a P5 conference.

that floors me. wouldn't the inclusion of those schools lessen the tax burden, create jobs, and provide a revenue source for the university. i can't wrap my head around it... what reasoning do they use?

 

[Legacy]

Clemson Will Take On Notre Dame in Cotton Bowl (Shaking the Southland)

Key to the game
It is never too early to dive into this intriguing matchup and name the one thing that Clemson must do to win. In order to win, the Tigers will need to slow down Notre Dame’s Dexter Williams. Ever since Williams rejoined the Fighting Irish after a suspension, the ND offense has improved exponentially. In the Irish’s first four games of the season, without Williams, the offense put up 126 points. In the first four games with Williams, the ND offense put up 146 points. The Notre Dame offense goes as Dexter Williams goes, it will be extremely vital for the Clemson defensive line to step up and slow down Williams.

Bottom line
This will be a fantastic game that will likely come down to the wire. Two great teams, pitted against each other for the opportunity to play for a championship. December 29th can not come soon enough.

 

[NorthDakota]

that floors me. wouldn't the inclusion of those schools lessen the tax burden, create jobs, and provide a revenue source for the university. i can't wrap my head around it... what reasoning do they use?

FCS and G5 schools provide a modest boost, if at all. All it seems to really do is give the school an opportunity to jack up student fees on students.

I believe they use some "One school, one fight" mentality. Everybody in Minnesota supports the Gophers, Wisconsin loves the Badgers, Nebraska loves the Huskers. By preventing other schools from getting uppity, they can keep that mentality going and build a local all-star team.

 

[Dizzyphil]

So much Buckeye salt, it's hilarious. Starts here: https://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/threads/the-polls-ap-coaches-cfp-etc.660976/page-71

Facebook, Twitter, and the link you provided shows the instability of idiots at o$u....


They are going crazy on both and really need to worry about what they will be covering up next.

 

[irishnd31]

So much Buckeye salt, it's hilarious. Starts here: https://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/threads/the-polls-ap-coaches-cfp-etc.660976/page-71

Jesus, what a bunch or morons. They make absolutely no sense.

 

[RallySonsOfND]

that floors me. wouldn't the inclusion of those schools lessen the tax burden, create jobs, and provide a revenue source for the university. i can't wrap my head around it... what reasoning do they use?

State legislators from the established state schools in those conferences want to protect those schools. Similar in Texas is that only UT and A&M have access to the Permanent University fund.

 

[Irish YJ]

FCS and G5 schools provide a modest boost, if at all. All it seems to really do is give the school an opportunity to jack up student fees on students.

I believe they use some "One school, one fight" mentality. Everybody in Minnesota supports the Gophers, Wisconsin loves the Badgers, Nebraska loves the Huskers. By preventing other schools from getting uppity, they can keep that mentality going and build a local all-star team.

seems crazy to me. not sure that legislation would stand up legally if challenged.

so if applicable to UCF, they're pretty much disadvantaged not only by being in a second tier conference, they can't even jump up to try and improve their situation.

 

[Irish YJ]

State legislators from the established state schools in those conferences want to protect those schools. Similar in Texas is that only UT and A&M have access to the Permanent University fund.

But at least Baylor and TCU were able to join P5s

 

[Dizzyphil]

So much Buckeye salt, it's hilarious. Starts here: https://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/threads/the-polls-ap-coaches-cfp-etc.660976/page-71

Jesus, what a bunch or morons. They make absolutely no sense.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Who gives a fvck what other fanbases think? We are once again the object of hate, that means you're doing something right. We're winning again and that pisses people off.

It feels great to be Irish today and I can't wait to see how this team shows up against Clemson. I trust these players, this season didn't feel fraudulent. We didn't have games we should've lost, and even our tight games, we seemed to be in control.

Our defense is good, we need to Lea to dial something up for Clemson because we definitely don't have the luxury of coming out with the same plan we used against USC. Lawrence will pick us apart if we start with 8-10 yard cushions on their WRs.

Can't wait to see how both teams settle in. Our boys earned a chance to leave everything on the field for 60 minutes. I f.v.cking can't wait for the 29th.

This has been a fantastic season and everything moving forward is dessert. Our team put together an undefeated season when most of us were guessing 10 wins at best.

Hope all of our guys are healthy and ready on the 29th!

 

[Irish YJ]

ny6 bowls coming up after the commercial

 

[ickythump1225]

Their future potential is scary though. Biggest college in the country who is just starting to get an older alumni base that can donate money and its right when they are getting really good. If they can keep it up for a few more years they could really be in the conversation for a new powerhouse. If I were them I would start getting the donation money now to keep their HC / get a good one if he leaves.

Yeah UCF could jump up in to the ACC or SEC in the next decade or so and really become a force.

 

[ickythump1225]

FCS and G5 schools provide a modest boost, if at all. All it seems to really do is give the school an opportunity to jack up student fees on students.

I believe they use some "One school, one fight" mentality. Everybody in Minnesota supports the Gophers, Wisconsin loves the Badgers, Nebraska loves the Huskers. By preventing other schools from getting uppity, they can keep that mentality going and build a local all-star team.

I'm from Minnesota. Everyone in Minnesota either A) supports the Vikes, B) supports ND, OSU, Wiscy, or Michigan, or C) doesn't watch football.

 

[Irish YJ]

Yeah UCF could jump up in to the ACC or SEC in the next decade or so and really become a force.

i think most folks have zero clue that UCF has 57k students, and the biggest college in the US. they just hear AAC and immediately discount them. IMO they have been the best team in the state for the last two years, and could be a permanent fixture even if they are stuck in the AAC. they are a big school, in a fun city, and in an attractive state.

And they get a chance to beat another SEC team VS LSU!

 

[IrishLax]

I love Dino Babers. Guy is so intelligent and articulate and comes across as a great leader. I hope he is on ND’s short list for next HC.

 

[ickythump1225]

The best is the guy saying ND didn’t win a conference and was never impressive. OK Bucknuts, project much?

"Based on criteria ND shouldn't be in." LOL yeah okay.

 

[RallySonsOfND]

But at least Baylor and TCU were able to join P5s

they are also private schools

 

[NorthDakota]

I'm from Minnesota. Everyone in Minnesota either A) supports the Vikes, B) supports ND, OSU, Wiscy, or Michigan, or C) doesn't watch football.

Met a few 'Sota boys who cheer for ND. Never one who roots for the other B1G teams. Odd.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Talking (heads) about who can beat whom as a consideration is irrelevant. What happens if your Heisman QB tears an ACL in the conference championship game?

The committee has said over the years that they take stuff like that into account, especially on the close decisions. Had Murray gotten injured and lost for the rest of the season, UGA or OSU might've gotten the 4th spot. They've also cut teams a bit of slack for a loss if it was due to a serious difference maker being out for just that one game.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

ND opens as an 11.5 point dog.

 

[Irish#1]

I started reading this thread just a little bit ago without knowing who was playing and where. Man we have a bunch of worry warts. Lol

The games ended up like they we’re predicted which meant ND was staying at #3. There was no way OU or OSU was going to bump the Irish down to #4 or out of the playoffs. You don’t punish an undefeated team with a proven track record or put a two loss team in over a one loss team. UGA probably is better than OU or OSU but there was no way they were going to replay the SECCG in the first round and you have a hard time justifying a two loss team being placed above an undefeated ND.

I love that Jimmy Khakis and Urban Liar are licking their wounds

 

[dmort]

The Georgia fans on ESPN seemed to like Georgia over anyone including an undefeated ND I turned the tv off after the picks were announced.

 

[Irish YJ]

The Georgia fans on ESPN seemed to like Georgia over anyone including an undefeated ND I turned the tv off after the picks were announced.

Vegas lines had UGA over ND, OSU, and OSU.
IIRC, they had UGA either a pt underdog or even vs Clemson.

The CFP committee also admitted that there was Bama, then there was Clemson... and then there was a lot of conversation about 3-5 or 3-6. So pretty much they had two clear cut entries, and then a group that had a lot of debate which ND, UGA, OK, and perhaps OSU where a part of. While we ended up where most predicted, it doesn't sound like we were the obvious or unanimous choice by the CFPC.

 

[Irish#1]

Vegas lines had UGA over ND, OSU, and OSU.
IIRC, they had UGA either a pt underdog or even vs Clemson.

The CFP committee also admitted that there was Bama, then there was Clemson... and then there was a lot of conversation about 3-5 or 3-6. So pretty much they had two clear cut entries, and then a group that had a lot of debate which ND, UGA, OK, and perhaps OSU where a part of. While we ended up where most predicted, it doesn't sound like we were the obvious or unanimous choice by the CFPC.

Not calling you out, but I’m not buying there was a lot of debate on ND’s position. That may have been more to placate some fan bases. We settled in at three a little while back and ended up three.

 

[Irish YJ]

Not calling you out, but I’m not buying there was a lot of debate on ND’s position. That may have been more to placate some fan bases. We settled in at three a little while back and ended up three.

feel free to call me out brother.
i disagree though. they didn't have to say anything about the 3 spot, at all. they would have been fine placating other fan bases talking about how close it was 4-6. i guarantee you had different people (6 of whom are new this year), all going off their own eye test. since their "guiding metrics" were ignored even in this 1-6, I expect there was a lot of debate 3-6. Vegas is the most unbias view, and they by odds, would have had Bama/Clemson/UGA/OK. Their own guiding metrics mean nothing to them, proof being their #1 metric conf champ was ignored slotting 2 loss UGA over 1 loss conf champ OSU.

i wish they had firm criteria, and were more transparent (published votes).

 

[T-Boone]

The arguments made for Georgia over ND were stupid, they reminded me of the desperate arguments a boxer who wants a crack at the title make (I am the best!). The commentators who were making the case for them should lose a lot of credibility.

 

[irishtrain]

The Georgia fans on ESPN seemed to like Georgia over anyone including an undefeated ND I turned the tv off after the picks were announced.

As a Notre dame fan who lives in Ga its just started-I'll be taking my shamrock sticker off my truck because I don't want vandalism--they are really nuts.

 

[NDohio]

Vegas lines had UGA over ND, OSU, and OSU.
IIRC, they had UGA either a pt underdog or even vs Clemson.

The CFP committee also admitted that there was Bama, then there was Clemson... and then there was a lot of conversation about 3-5 or 3-6. So pretty much they had two clear cut entries, and then a group that had a lot of debate which ND, UGA, OK, and perhaps OSU where a part of. While we ended up where most predicted, it doesn't sound like we were the obvious or unanimous choice by the CFPC.

Wonder what the Vegas line was for GA vs LSU...

This whole argument about who would win if X played Y is ridiculous. If you are a P5 school; play the games on your schedule, win the games you play, and good things will happen.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

2018 College Football Playoff

Heres a mind melter: saw Clay Travis posted this:

Georgia has played Alabama 120 minutes the last two seasons, led or was tied for 119 of those minutes, and lost both games.



Or how about this for a mindfuck:

CFP title: Hurts gets pulled, Tua rallies Bama to victory

SEC title: Tua gets hurt, Hurts rallies Bama to victory


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[Irish#1]

feel free to call me out brother.
i disagree though. they didn't have to say anything about the 3 spot, at all. they would have been fine placating other fan bases talking about how close it was 4-6. i guarantee you had different people (6 of whom are new this year), all going off their own eye test. since their "guiding metrics" were ignored even in this 1-6, I expect there was a lot of debate 3-6. Vegas is the most unbias view, and they by odds, would have had Bama/Clemson/UGA/OK. Their own guiding metrics mean nothing to them, proof being their #1 metric conf champ was ignored slotting 2 loss UGA over 1 loss conf champ OSU.

i wish they had firm criteria, and were more transparent (published votes).

Just read an article from Andy Staples on si.com. Sounds like all the discussion was about the fourth team. They discussed OU, UGA and OSU. Never mentioned ND which leads me to believe ND was a solid #3 all the time.