2018 CFP Rankings

[ND88]

1. Alabama: Tua Tagovailoa is still smiling on the sidelines in the fourth quarter just waiting to do the pose.

2. Clemson: will do to Boston College what we should have done to NW.

3. Notre Dame: We beat Michigan last year... I mean, this year. Still undefeated. Need to beat Florida St. by 75 points.

4. Michigan: Herblife's taster's choice for #3. Harbaugh will likely press his pants for Urban when they meet again.

5. Georgia: will NOT beat Alabama, lol.

6. Oklahoma: has a trash defense.

7. LSU: has an offense about as good as MSU. But hey, they beat a world-beater in Florida... right?

 

[ACamp1900]

If ND had the same resume as LSU... 2 losses, a throttling by Bama... they wouldn’t even be top 15.

Give ND ANY sec resume and they’d fall back.......

 

[Irish YJ]

Open letter to BK...

Dear Coach Kelly.

Don't be cute with the play calling in the 2Q. And run the fucking score up.

Thanks you.

Irish YJ

 

[OhioIrish31]

Dude doesn't even know our QBs name.

Ian Booker Finch T. Washington

 

[ThePiombino]

How could the committee possibly justify Michigan over us at the end of the year when we own the h2h as well as the better W vs common opponent? They would have to somehow justify Michigan's loss (to us) being better than our win (over them) lol

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[ND88]

Open letter to BK...

Dear Coach Kelly.

Don't be cute with the play calling in the 2Q. And run the fucking score up.

Thanks you.

Irish YJ

"YJ, It's difficult to win. It's not easy. It takes four quarters. If it were easy, we would have a coach named Saban. We do it differently. You're welcome." ~ Brian Kelly

 

[Irish YJ]

"YJ, It's difficult to win. It's not easy. It takes four quarters. If it were easy, we would have a coach named Saban. We do it differently. You're welcome." ~ Brian Kelly

Dear Brian,

If it takes 4 quarters, please start playing the second quarter.

Thank you,

Irish YJ


PS. Special Teams need Purple Face

 

[OhioIrish31]

Dear Brian,

If it takes 4 quarters, please start playing the second quarter.

Thank you,

Irish YJ


PS. Special Teams need Purple Face

This for sure!

 

[aubeirish]

People who say, ah you only beat Michigan by 7, blah blah blah obviously did not watch the game. We smacked them on the mouth all night long. The only reason we didn't win by at least 3 touchdowns is because Kelly and co. got back to the old habit of being super conservative in the second half when comfortably in front. Though, I have to say that the play calling has been more agressive, from my perspective, than years past. Which is really great to see.

 

[ACamp1900]

People who say, ah you only beat Michigan by 7, blah blah blah obviously did not watch the game. We smacked them on the mouth all night long. The only reason we didn't win by at least 3 touchdowns is because Kelly and co. got back to the old habit of being super conservative in the second half when comfortably in front. Though, I have to say that the play calling has been more agressive, from my perspective, than years past. Which is really great to see.

On the flip of all my previous posts, this dynamic will be a thing until a BK led ND team snaps a top opponent’s neck and blows their doors off..... its,... been a long wait... fuck, at this point blowing out a completely outmatched FSU would go some...

 

[OhioIrish31]

LSU at 7 what a joke

And Kentucky at 11. Both got their ass beat TWICE! The committee needs a wet wipe to clean the SEC off of their face

 

[Irish#1]

BK is aware of the the committee and what's being said. Let's hope he tells Chip to crank up the volume and throttle FSU.

 

[Blaise]

Problem is after what Clemson did to FSU, us winning 42-7 isn't as impressive as Clemson..

The Game we need to dominant is Syracuse. Their ranking shows the PC loves them... We win by double digits on them and we are a lock at 3 if we win out

 

[Irishize]

BK is aware of the the committee and what's being said. Let's hope he tells Chip to crank up the volume and throttle FSU.

I like the fact the players have requested to not have the CFP rankings on the their televisions as to not be distracted or intoxicated w/ their success. That being said, I hope BK & staff can at least run a montage of the disrespect the talking heads are giving ND whether it’s no longer giving them credit for a win they clearly earned or mispronouncing their names or other slights.

 

[IrishLion]

I think some of you guys were overreacting a bit last night lol.

Regardless of whether or not he got Ian's name right, the head of the committee knew the most important part when asked to compare ND and scUM: Not only did ND win head-to-head, but they are getting better each week with Ian at QB.

That comment makes me think that the committee discussed the idea that "scUM is better now than they were in week one!" and came to the conclusion "well, so is ND."

ND and scUM might very well flip-flop over the next three weeks, and the committee will have different and contradictory validation for it every time... but if ND wins out, they'll be #3 at worst, regardless of what happens around them.

The committee values head-to-head matchups in the final poll, even when they seem to devalue them in the early releases. Just look at the TCU/Baylor argument back in 2014...

The committee had TCU rated above Baylor in literally every ranking they released, UNTIL THE FINAL POLL. That's when Baylor jumped ahead of TCU, based on an early head-to-head matchup.

Their weekly rankings mean jack shit. Seriously. Don't get worked up about it. They've proven over and over again that the final poll is different than all of the bullshit they come up with during the year.

 

[IrishLion]

2014 Rankings:

Week 10
#7 TCU (6-1)
#13 Baylor (6-1)

Week 11
#6 TCU (7-1)
#12 Baylor (7-1)

Week 12
#4 TCU (8-1)
#7 Baylor (8-1)

Week 13
#5 TCU (9-1)
#7 Baylor (9-1)

Week 14
#5 TCU (9-1)
#7 Baylor (9-1)

Week 15
#3 TCU (10-1)
#6 Baylor (10-1)

Week 16 - FINAL SELECTION
#5 BAYLOR (11-1)
#6 TCU (11-1)


Baylor won an early head-to-head game, and yet the committee had different reasons for ranking TCU ahead of them every week.

Then, in the final poll, and even though nothing major had changed as they both kept winning impressively, Baylor moved ahead of them. Despite all of their logic and reasoning for TCU being ahead of Baylor, Baylor moved back ahead of them in the one poll that mattered, based on the head-to-head matchup.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My personal top 6, RIGHT NOW: <br><br>1 - Alabama<br>2 - Clemson<br>3 - Michigan<br>4 - Georgia<br>5 - Notre Dame<br>6 - Oklahoma<br><br>Committee will obviously put ND at 3, forgetting that H2H matters ONLY if 2 teams are seen as otherwise equal. Game was in South Bend 10 weeks ago, things have changed.</p>— Dari Nowkhah (@ESPNDari) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNDari/status/1059839880933498880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 6, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I look at this as click bait BS. And it works every time; you get a bunch of ND fans riled up and it generates publicity for morons like this.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

2014 Rankings:

Then, in the final poll, and even though nothing major had changed as they both kept winning impressively, Baylor moved ahead of them. Despite all of their logic and reasoning for TCU being ahead of Baylor, Baylor moved back ahead of them in the one poll that mattered, based on the head-to-head matchup.

I think you're on to something here. They like the ratings they get with this 30 min to 1 hour show, and the more they can stir the pot, the more views they are going to get. Look at all of us discussing it here the night of and morning after.

When it's all said and done, I HOPE and think they'll get it right, and turn to the only conclusive metric they have on the table, and that would be H2H. If they subjectively say "We just believe scUM is better than ND now, despite a result that happened a whopping 3 months ago," that would create utter chaos in the system as we know it.

At the end of the day, I think they'll understand that they need to look at some concrete evidence to prove the method to their madness, and H2H and common opponents/outcomes is the only way to do that.

 

[Irish#1]

I think some of you guys were overreacting a bit last night lol.

Regardless of whether or not he got Ian's name right, the head of the committee knew the most important part when asked to compare ND and scUM: Not only did ND win head-to-head, but they are getting better each week with Ian at QB.

That comment makes me think that the committee discussed the idea that "scUM is better now than they were in week one!" and came to the conclusion "well, so is ND."

ND and scUM might very well flip-flop over the next three weeks, and the committee will have different and contradictory validation for it every time... but if ND wins out, they'll be #3 at worst, regardless of what happens around them.

The committee values head-to-head matchups in the final poll, even when they seem to devalue them in the early releases. Just look at the TCU/Baylor argument back in 2014...

The committee had TCU rated above Baylor in literally every ranking they released, UNTIL THE FINAL POLL. That's when Baylor jumped ahead of TCU, based on an early head-to-head matchup.

Their weekly rankings mean jack shit. Seriously. Don't get worked up about it. They've proven over and over again that the final poll is different than all of the bullshit they come up with during the year.

If scUM was going to make a move, it would have been last night. Assuming both teams run the table, I don't believe the committee would place a one loss scUM team over an undefeated Irish team. Especially when the loss was administered by the unbeaten team.

Not arguing your TCU Baylor comparison, but both teams had a loss, so there was a little wiggle room to play with even though TCU had beaten Baylor.

 

[BabyIrish]

This is shock journalism at its finest. If we win we’re in, no need to worry about the pundits. They don’t what they’re talking about anymore than we do. Let it go, relax and enjoy the throttling we give to FSU on Saturday

 

[RDU Irish]

When I look at Clemson/Bama/ND individually I see clear paths to undefeated - however collectively it seems unlikely all three stay undefeated. Something is going to crack in the top 3 IMO, just hope to God it's not us.

Also think Michigan is mentally fragile and will crack. If I had to pick Michigan or the field for that fourth spot I would take the field and it's not close.

 

[Kak7304]

Problem is after what Clemson did to FSU, us winning 42-7 isn't as impressive as Clemson..

The Game we need to dominant is Syracuse. Their ranking shows the PC loves them... We win by double digits on them and we are a lock at 3 if we win out

Is it possible, in the long run, to be punished for beating Syracuse by a lot? If we beat them by a lot, they will drop more in the polls than if we won a close game. At the end of the year, the committee looks at the wins in context of their current rankings, so would it look better to have a close win over a team ranked 10-15 at the end of the year or to blow out a team that ends 20-25 (or even out of the top 25)? I think we all agree that blowing out Syracuse is best, but I just do not understand the committee’s reasoning on a lot of things and could see this scenario coming into play.

 

[NDohio]

Is it possible, in the long run, to be punished for beating Syracuse by a lot? If we beat them by a lot, they will drop more in the polls than if we won a close game. At the end of the year, the committee looks at the wins in context of their current rankings, so would it look better to have a close win over a team ranked 10-15 at the end of the year or to blow out a team that ends 20-25 (or even out of the top 25)? I think we all agree that blowing out Syracuse is best, but I just do not understand the committee’s reasoning on a lot of things and could see this scenario coming into play.

Interesting thought process but I think the fact that Clemson/Syracuse was a close game makes it if ND blows out 'Cuse that is a huge positive for ND regardless of where Syracuse ends up being ranked.

 

[NDRock]

This is shock journalism at its finest. If we win we’re in, no need to worry about the pundits. They don’t what they’re talking about anymore than we do. Let it go, relax and enjoy the throttling we give to FSU on Saturday

I'm more concerned with the committee members who don't know what they're talking about. Ian Booker? I fully expect a 12-1 Michigan to jump a 12-0 ND. Unless we lay the smack down the last two weeks.

 

[IrishLax]

The reason I care is that I want a shot at Clemson. Clemson is very good, definitely better than ND on paper. But they're much more beatable. Lawrence hasn't played a single good defense, and while I don't relish going up against a Venables defense they're a better matchup for Book and his accuracy than Bama. We have a much better chance of making plays against Clemson's offense than stopping Tua.

I want a real shot at an elite team, not getting screwed by the worst possible matchup.

 

[anarin]

Nothing matters right now.

Ohio State vs Michigan State
Georgia vs Auburn
Clemson vs Boston College
Notre Dame vs Syracuse
Washington State vs Washington
Oklahoma vs West Virginia
Ohio State vs Michigan
Alabama vs Auburn
Alabama vs Georgia

(possibly)
Northwestern vs Ohio State/Michigan
Oklahoma vs West Virginia (again)
Pittsburgh vs Clemson


ALLLLLLLLLLL of these games and you still have upset minded teams out there that could wreck it.

Mississippi State vs Alabama
Oklahoma State vs West Virginia
Duke vs Clemson
Notre Dame vs USC
South Carolina vs Clemson
Texas A&M vs LSU

And these are just a few. I think the landscape will be much different by the end of the year. I just hope Notre Dame isn't one of the teams that gets upset.

 

[zelezo vlk]

The reason I care is that I want a shot at Clemson. Clemson is very good, definitely better than ND on paper. But they're much more beatable. Lawrence hasn't played a single good defense, and while I don't relish going up against a Venables defense they're a better matchup for Book and his accuracy than Bama. We have a much better chance of making plays against Clemson's offense than stopping Tua.

I want a real shot at an elite team, not getting screwed by the worst possible matchup.

Giving Dabo and Venables a month to prep worries me, but doesn't scare me. Granting that same month to Saban et al. scares the shit outta me

 

[irishog77]

I think some of you guys were overreacting a bit last night lol.

Regardless of whether or not he got Ian's name right, the head of the committee knew the most important part when asked to compare ND and scUM: Not only did ND win head-to-head, but they are getting better each week with Ian at QB.

That comment makes me think that the committee discussed the idea that "scUM is better now than they were in week one!" and came to the conclusion "well, so is ND."

ND and scUM might very well flip-flop over the next three weeks, and the committee will have different and contradictory validation for it every time... but if ND wins out, they'll be #3 at worst, regardless of what happens around them.

The committee values head-to-head matchups in the final poll, even when they seem to devalue them in the early releases. Just look at the TCU/Baylor argument back in 2014...

The committee had TCU rated above Baylor in literally every ranking they released, UNTIL THE FINAL POLL. That's when Baylor jumped ahead of TCU, based on an early head-to-head matchup.

Their weekly rankings mean jack shit. Seriously. Don't get worked up about it. They've proven over and over again that the final poll is different than all of the bullshit they come up with during the year.

Supposing what you say is true, then the committee needs to end. Today.

That would suggest the committee is nothing more than trolls, using subjectiveness however they see fit, all while reserving their right to change their mind on a whim.

Personally, I think this is all the committee has been, and will continue to be, anyway.

 

[TomHaverford]

Lol we threw over the top on you whenever we wanted. Damn I wish Kelly didn’t go conservative in the second half because he knew Michigan couldn’t score.

Revisionist history, much?

Notre Dame threw for a whopping 170 yards that game. 43 of those yards, or 25.8% of all passing yards, came on what can only be described as a one in a million fluke play.

Wimbush completed 54% of his passes for 1 TD and 1 INT and 170 yards.

But yeah, keep telling yourself that. Lol.

 

[calvegas04]

Revisionist history, much?

Notre Dame threw for a whopping 170 yards that game. 43 of those yards, or 25.8% of all passing yards, came on what can only be described as a one in a million fluke play.

Wimbush completed 54% of his passes for 1 TD and 1 INT and 170 yards.

But yeah, keep telling yourself that. Lol.

Man think of how many yards Book would have put on mich in the air