2016 Presidential Horse Race

[IrishLax]

SMU already reversed course on that. They gave the ol' "miscommunication" excuse, but it's pretty clear that an overly-sensitive individual convinced someone else to call it off, only for SMU to realize there was an impending sh*tstorm brewing.

You got a link to them reversing course?

 

[IrishinSyria]

(article about grubhub guy wanting to fire trump voters)

I hope they nail this guy on punitive damages.

On what basis? There's certainly no federal law prohibiting private employers from firing Trump supporters.

Maybe a state claim?

 

[IrishLax]

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5c5ctg/they_just_dont_fucking_get_it/

I mean this guy is pretty spot on with what I've heard and read from a lot of Trump supporters.

Wow. That post is hot fire. Can't say much of it is off base.

 

[connor_in]

Mike Rowe weighs in on the results of the election, and offers a bit of sanity – TheBlaze

Former host of the hit television show Dirty Jobs, and witty purveyor of blue collar common sense, Mike Rowe, has been relatively quiet since the election. It’s a silence that did not go unnoticed by one of Rowe’s fans, who wrote to him to make sure everything was alright, to inform him that she wrote him in, and asked Rowe to help her make sense of the results from the election.

“Hey Mike. You’ve been very quiet. Everything OK? I just wanted you to know that I voted for you. I was also hoping you might explain what the hell happened on Tuesday, and say something to make me feel better about my fellow man. Thanks,
Carol Savoy”

Rowe decided to answer Savoy on his public Facebook page, and as usual, did so with the humorous wisdom he’s known for. The post itself, as with all of Rowe’s works, is worthy to be read in its entirety.

“Hi Carol

Last Friday, my dog posted a video that featured a man licking a cat with the aid of a device that’s designed for the specific purpose of making it easier for people to lick their cats.I’ve been silent ever since, because frankly, I couldn’t think of a better way – metaphorical or otherwise – to express my feelings about this election cycle. The entire country it seems, has been preoccupied with finding a way to lick a cat without actually putting their tongue on it.

Too oblique? Too weird? Ok, how about this analysis:

Back in 2003, a very unusual TV pilot called Dirty Jobs, Forrest-Gumped its way onto The Discovery Channel and found an audience – a big one. For Discovery, this was a problem. You see, Dirty Jobs didn’t look like anything else on their channel. It wasn’t pretty or careful. It took place in sewers and septic tanks, and featured a subversive host in close contact with his 8-year old inner child who refused to do second takes. Everyone agreed that Dirty Jobs was totally “off-brand” and completely inappropriate for Discovery. Everyone but the viewers. The ratings were just too big to ignore, so the pilot got a green-light, and yours truly finally got a steady gig.

But here’s the thing – Dirty Jobs didn’t resonate because the host was incredibly charming. It wasn’t a hit because it was gross, or irreverent, or funny, or silly, or smart, or terribly clever. Dirty Jobs succeeded because it was authentic. It spoke directly and candidly to a big chunk of the country that non-fiction networks had been completely ignoring. In a very simple way, Dirty Jobs said “Hey – we can see you,” to millions of regular people who had started to feel invisible. Ultimately, that’s why Dirty Jobs ran for eight seasons. And today, that’s also why Donald Trump is the President of the United States.

I know people are freaked out, Carol. I get it. I’m worried too. But not because of who we elected. We’ve survived 44 Presidents, and we’ll survive this one too. I’m worried because millions of people now seem to believe that Trump supporters are racist, xenophobic, and uneducated misogynists. I’m worried because despising our candidates publicly is very different than despising the people who vote for them.

Last week, three old friends – people I’ve known for years – each requested to be “unfriended” by anyone who planned on voting for Trump. Honestly, that was disheartening. Who tosses away a friendship over an election? Are my friends turning into those mind-numbingly arrogant celebrities who threaten to move to another country if their candidate doesn’t win? Are my friends now convinced that people they’ve known for years who happen to disagree with them politically are not merely mistaken – but evil, and no longer worthy of their friendship?

For what it’s worth, Carol, I don’t think Donald Trump won by tapping into America’s “racist underbelly,” and I don’t think Hillary lost because she’s a woman. I think a majority of people who voted in this election did so in spite of their many misgivings about the character of both candidates. That’s why it’s very dangerous to argue that Clinton supporters condone lying under oath and obstructing justice. Just as it’s equally dangerous to suggest a Trump supporter condones gross generalizations about foreigners and women.

These two candidates were the choices we gave ourselves, and each came with a heaping helping of vulgarity and impropriety. Yeah, it was dirty job for sure, but the winner was NOT decided by a racist and craven nation – it was decided by millions of disgusted Americans desperate for real change. The people did not want a politician. The people wanted to be seen. Donald Trump convinced those people that he could see them. Hillary Clinton did not.

As for me, I’m flattered by your support, but grateful that your vote was not enough to push me over the top. However, when the dust settles, and The White House gets a new tenant, I’ll make the same offer to President Trump that I did to President Obama – to assist as best I can in any attempt to reinvigorate the skilled trades, and shine a light on millions of good jobs that no one seems excited about pursuing. The First Four Years Are The Hardest… « Profoundly Disconnected

Like those 3 million “shovel ready” jobs we heard so much about eight years ago, the kind of recovery that Donald Trump is promising will require a workforce that’s properly trained and sufficiently enthused about the opportunities at hand. At the moment, we do not have that work force in place. What we do have, are tens of millions of capable people who have simply stopped looking for work, and millions of available jobs that no one aspires to do. That’s the skills gap, and it’s gotta close. If mikeroweWORKS can help, we’re standing by.

If not, I suppose we’ll just have to find another way to lick the cat.

Mike”

 

[connor_in]

See, this I have a problem with too... it should not be a 'scoreboard' and 'we won' thing... whatevers

Just for an FYI (and not saying you are saying this about me)..the reason I posted this is the same reason I posted the one of the Democrat Muslim woman who voted DJT. I just wanted to post examples of people who seem to have voted against what conventional wisdom said they probably would have.

 

[ACamp1900]

Just for an FYI (and not saying you are saying this about me)..the reason I posted this is the same reason I posted the one of the Democrat Muslim woman who voted DJT. I just wanted to post examples of people who seem to have voted against what conventional wisdom said they probably would have.

Yeah I wasn't saying anything AT YOU brother, just the behavior in the video...

 

[ACamp1900]

I keep seeing this tired stuff everywhere, "If only more smart people had voted" "Too many idiots or racist or whatever..."

There is absolutely a wing of the left that is completely incapable of just accepting legitimacy from anywhere outside their camp.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Okay, can we get Mike Rowe into elected office somehow? The guy just seems so damn sensible, which means that he'd be a failure in politics. Okay never mind, forget what I said.

 

[IrishLion]

You got a link to them reversing course?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It would be SMU’s privilege to feature Victoria Smith delivering an honorary serve at the SMU volleyball game Saturday, Nov. 12. <a href="https://t.co/6HQpajVW71">pic.twitter.com/6HQpajVW71</a></p>— SMU (@SMU) <a href="https://twitter.com/SMU/status/797115443257503744">November 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[phgreek]

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5c5ctg/they_just_dont_fucking_get_it/

I mean this guy is pretty spot on with what I've heard and read from a lot of Trump supporters.

Most of it I agree with. I think the Donald said some things that made the left's job of demonizing him a bit easier. I really thought he'd lose....because as a republican candidate you have to be damn near perfect...or so I thought.

I even said on here that the people I talked to who were voting for him were NOT any kind of "ist" other than "Pisst". He was their flaming bag of dog shit to be delivered to PA Ave.

...And they did it!

I am proud of President Obama thus far...he has said there would be no low class Clinton-like Shenanigans when it was time to transition, and thus far he has been a man of his word. I disagree with him on most political things, and I do not like how he missed the point/opportunity to be who he promised to be...that he just needed to ignore Boehner and McConnel's bluster, and keep reaching out, and keep looking for common ground. He did not. He fed into the divisiveness with his words and deeds very early on, and sunk himself. I bet when it is all over one of his deepest regrets will be that he said things like “Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.” – President Obama to House Republican Whip Eric Cantor, January 23, 2009.

I hope Trump tirelessly reaches across the aisle, even when he is moving parts of his agenda forward that Democrats can't support...maybe he can give a little ground, let them save a little face...maybe Trump can be bigger than the bitter shitheads in the media. I can hope.

 

[Bluto]

I'm not sure what you mean by this? Detaining someone who is in the country legally is not "enforcing the law". Detaining those who are here illegally is, and I fail to see the problem with that?

I agree that is not enforcing the law. That was the approach that was taken in an attempt to enforce the law. That is what I have a problem with. I can only imagine the craziness that would ensue if the cops went door to door and or set up check points in the suburbs and rural areas in order to confirm people held proper gun registration paperwork.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

Okay, can we get Mike Rowe into elected office somehow? The guy just seems so damn sensible, which means that he'd be a failure in politics. Okay never mind, forget what I said.

Mike offered Obama and now Trump to work with them on getting more Americans into skilled labor jobs.
He also works with Walmart for his foundation.

Maybe like Gates he's better doing his good deeds away from political office.

 

[IrishLax]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It would be SMU’s privilege to feature Victoria Smith delivering an honorary serve at the SMU volleyball game Saturday, Nov. 12. <a href="https://t.co/6HQpajVW71">pic.twitter.com/6HQpajVW71</a></p>— SMU (@SMU) <a href="https://twitter.com/SMU/status/797115443257503744">November 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Good for them. Seriously.

 

[ACamp1900]

What I learned, bet on the party or candidate that is running the more populist campaign.

 

[Bluto]

Have lived in South OC where the very white folks are, lived in North County San Diego, live in Scottsdale, AZ, I'm from Indiana and have even lived in Kentucky. OC is the least looney bin white nationalist conservative of those places. Those days are over. Pretty sure all the people you're referring to retired and bought ranches in Wyoming.

I agree those days are over in Orange County. Back in the 70's and 80's however, when NDinLA was living there that place was nut job central. My hypothesis is that having taco trucks on every corner is a good thing. Everyone likes tacos.

 

[IrishinSyria]

lol. both sides are the worst.

 

[NorthDakota]

I agree those days are over in Orange County. Back in the 70's and 80's however, when NDinLA was living there that place was nut job central. My hypothesis is that having taco trucks on every corner is a good thing. Everyone likes tacos.

We only have two taco trucks....and they aren't year round...in case you wonder why I'm a very crabby person.

 

[irishff1014]

Michael Moore KILLING it... On MSNBC... What world is this?

Michael Moore joins wide-ranging election talk | MSNBC

His first 10 mins I was like what the hell got into him. After the the real MM showed up. How do you take anyone that looks like they haven't showered/gotten a hair cut in 3 months serious?

 

[IrishinSyria]

I agree those days are over in Orange County. Back in the 70's and 80's however, when NDinLA was living there that place was nut job central. My hypothesis is that having taco trucks on every corner is a good thing. Everyone likes tacos.

Ethnic food in general is great and defeats all other arguments against immigration on its own. The more people we let in the more food options we have and the happier everyone is.

 

[phgreek]

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WOW...that dude must have taken some serious shit to be that cold...

...But you can't watch this, and not laugh...when someone laughs that hard...you gotta laugh.

 

[Bluto]

We only have two taco trucks....and they aren't year round...in case you wonder why I'm a very crabby person.

Makes sense. I made the mistake of eating at a "Mexican" restaurant in Wildwood, NJ about 20 years back. One of the saddest days of my life.

 

[Irish#1]

Wow. That post is hot fire. Can't say much of it is off base.

Agree, he is spot on.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Michael Moore KILLING it... On MSNBC... What world is this?

Michael Moore joins wide-ranging election talk | MSNBC

People (right-wing) hate this guy because he's so liberal and progressive, but I've watched his documentaries and read some of his blogs and this is just who he is. The things he's saying on this Morning Joe segment are real. The media and the elitists in this country have done a huge disservice to the American people and I've listened to Moore talk about it for over a year now during this election process.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

Ethnic food in general is great and defeats all other arguments against immigration on its own. The more people we let in the more food options we have and the happier everyone is.

Caveat
Good ethnic food.
There's a snowballs chance in hell I will ever eat fried cockroaches or grasshoppers or a beating snakes heart.

 

[BobbyMac]

I agree those days are over in Orange County. Back in the 70's and 80's however, when NDinL.A. was living there that place was nut job central. My hypothesis is that having taco trucks on every corner is a good thing. Everyone likes tacos.

Nut jobs on the right? IYO, less than, equal or greater than lefty nut jobs in the the Bay area or LA... as a percentage?

 

[connor_in]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lena Dunham emails her fans to talk about THAT night -> <a href="https://t.co/yZPyf6Ixvn">pic.twitter.com/yZPyf6Ixvn</a></p>— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) <a href="https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/797056193118269440">November 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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I ran across the whole thing (not just the above excerpt on Yahoo):

https://www.yahoo.com/style/dont-agonize-organize-164149299.html

My favorite part is how she talks about killing off the patriarchy and then slightly later says this:

A lot of people have been talking about how we need to try to understand how this happened and what's going on in the minds of the people who voted for Donald Trump. Maybe. Maybe. But maybe let's leave that to the strategists, to the men in offices who need to run the numbers. It should not be the job of women, of people of color, of queer and trans Americans, to understand who does not consider them human and why, just as it's not the job of the abused to understand their abuser. It's quite enough work to know about and bear the hatred of so many. It's quite enough work to go on living.

She is almost literally saying let the men figure things out as it is too much for me (and women in general along with insert-special-interest-group-here) to try to overcome my ignorance as I have to deal with my own life

This was the topper:

Now, more than ever, our power is in numbers and in our refusal to accept the idea that our leaders intrinsically know what's best for us, better than the people we meet every day.

SMDH

 

[Bluto]

So below is an OP Ed from awhile back written by Donald's assumed head of the EPA. Looks like the "cold weather" negative recruiting might actually become a thing of the past. Climate change. It's gonna be great. No really. You'll be so warm and tan all year round, but not too tan, you don't want to get deported. Lol.

Forbes Welcome

 

[IrishBroker]

 

[Irish#1]

Mike Rowe weighs in on the results of the election, and offers a bit of sanity – TheBlaze

Rowe should have been the moderator for the debates.

 

[Irish#1]

Ethnic food in general is great and defeats all other arguments against immigration on its own. The more people we let in the more food options we have and the happier everyone is.

Smartest post you've made in this thread! lol