2016 Presidential Horse Race

2016 Presidential Horse Race


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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lena Dunham emails her fans to talk about THAT night -> <a href="https://t.co/yZPyf6Ixvn">pic.twitter.com/yZPyf6Ixvn</a></p>— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) <a href="https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/797056193118269440">November 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lena Dunham emails her fans to talk about THAT night -> <a href="https://t.co/yZPyf6Ixvn">pic.twitter.com/yZPyf6Ixvn</a></p>— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) <a href="https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/797056193118269440">November 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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This is what happens when you convince yourself, and just as importantly, exclusively surround yourself with people who do the same, that your world view is the only loving, caring and valid one and that yours is the only righteous and honorable path.... your own made up boogie man chases into your shower where you break down crying in a fetal position....
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Found this old pic of the 2012 Romney riots. <a href="https://twitter.com/realDailyWire">@realDailyWire</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/benshapiro">@benshapiro</a> <a href="https://t.co/XvbMCJTDS7">pic.twitter.com/XvbMCJTDS7</a></p>— Josh Griffith (@FlyoverTruth) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlyoverTruth/status/796915416702603264">November 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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STOP IT! Insensitive bastard...snif, snif.

Dude you are a comedian with pictures...I almost always laugh out loud.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lena Dunham emails her fans to talk about THAT night -> <a href="https://t.co/yZPyf6Ixvn">pic.twitter.com/yZPyf6Ixvn</a></p>— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) <a href="https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/797056193118269440">November 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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This is what happens when you convince yourself, and just as importantly, exclusively surround yourself with people who do the same, that your world view is the only loving, caring and valid one and that yours is the only righteous and honorable path.... your own made up boogie man chases into your shower where you break down drying in a fetal position....

Give them a participation ribbon and they'll be happy.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/6eEm3gnkAs">pic.twitter.com/6eEm3gnkAs</a></p>— Bloom County (@bloomcounty) <a href="https://twitter.com/bloomcounty/status/797084763060203520">November 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/pPTdOZj7DN">pic.twitter.com/pPTdOZj7DN</a></p>— Bloom County (@bloomcounty) <a href="https://twitter.com/bloomcounty/status/796543425663221764">November 10, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/BfpSgIGgU3">pic.twitter.com/BfpSgIGgU3</a></p>— Bloom County (@bloomcounty) <a href="https://twitter.com/bloomcounty/status/796543392230481923">November 10, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Moore: Trump Voters Aren't Racists, Many Voted for Barack Hussein Obama | Fox News Insider

Filmmaker Michael Moore pushed back today against the notion that Americans who voted for Donald Trump did so based on racism.

Moore, who warned fellow liberals that Trump was going to win the election, said Trump voters were motivated by economic pain and lost jobs more than anything else.

"You have to accept that millions of people who voted for Barack Obama - some of them once, some of them twice - changed their minds this time. They're not racists. They twice voted for a man whose middle name is Hussein. That's the America we live in," said Moore, explaining that younger white voters turned out in record numbers for Barack Obama.

"But if you put people through another eight years [where] there's no middle-class jobs, they're struggling to get by, the basic things like the price of a box of cereal doubles ... these are the things that are important to people because they're living from paycheck to paycheck," he said on MSNBC this morning.

Moore told Megyn Kelly in May that Democrats needed to take Trump seriously, specifically pointing to the mindsets of working-class voters in Rust Belt states where Trump ended up winning.

The Flint, Michigan, native told Bill Maher in July that Trump would win the election by flipping Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan.

Julie Roginsky agreed with Moore's take on America's Newsroom, expressing the view that there are two Americas right now and they're split economically, not based on race or gender.

"This economy over the last eight years, with this income gap, has made people that are affluent much more affluent, but it's made the rest of America much more concerned about making fundamental ends meet," she explained.

Roginsky said pundits in the New York City and Washington, D.C. "bubble" missed this factor and how it would affect the election result.

Watch the discussion above and the interview with Moore below. Let us know your thoughts.
 

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My thoughts on Michael Moore of all freakin people being the voice of reason in the country:

“You’re awake by the way. You’re not having a terrible, terrible dream. Also you’re not dead and you haven’t gone to hell. This is your life now, this is us, this is our country – it’s real.”

hold me.
 

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On top of all of it, she video taped it all and obviously shared it................. that mentality is just un-fvkin-real

I mean I hope it was I hate Trump give me likes.
But I feel horrible for that kid that was a perfect oppurtunity to work with your child on critical thinking skills, but nope belittle him and scare him until he agrees with my views
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lena Dunham emails her fans to talk about THAT night -> <a href="https://t.co/yZPyf6Ixvn">pic.twitter.com/yZPyf6Ixvn</a></p>— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) <a href="https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/797056193118269440">November 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Is it bad that I was surprised to find out that she wasn't a lesbian?
 

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My thoughts on Michael Moore of all freakin people being the voice of reason in the country:

“You’re awake by the way. You’re not having a terrible, terrible dream. Also you’re not dead and you haven’t gone to hell. This is your life now, this is us, this is our country – it’s real.”

hold me.

Yeah, him and Chris Matthews have had extremely cogent thoughts the last few days
 

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Yeah, him and Chris Matthews have had extremely cogent thoughts the last few days
Joe Scarborough had Michael Moore on for 45 minutes this morning with no commercial break. He (Moore) has absolutely nailed the Trump analysis for like a year.
 
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You know, Donald Trump, it turns out ran one of the most brilliant political campaigns of all time. He totally bit into the divisive tribal imperative evident in all men, and more evident in those that cannot bring themselves to think and act on a higher level.

Where Hillary counted on votes from the imaginary evolved voter.

Thank you so much for wallowing in the filth of this election, and continuing it forward, but I do have some advice and a prediction.

Trumps path in governance has been narrowed considerably by his campaign :
  • Others, not me of course, are going to be incensed by his failure to jail, or even prosecute Hillary. Where some are going to be dancing the fine line between their hypocrisy over wanting her prosecuted when they thought she would win, and not caring a whit about her now that the election is over, others are not going to forget.
  • Neither are the Racists and other undesirables of whom Donald courted early, and decried later. Pretty soon they are going to realize that his abandonment of them just before the election, wasn't play - that he really was dropping them, after he got all of their votes.
  • Those that thought Trump was anti-establishment! (Mostly poor, stupid, white, and redneck voters. But some who should have known better.)
  • And most importantly, conservatives. All of you all will begin to freak. To govern, Trump will have to politically depend more on Democrats than elements within the Republican party, especially since the majority of Americans don't want a conservative party in power! (It is all about change, anti-establishment change, stupid! to modify Carville's quote.)

I will totally suspend my judgement and give Donald about 6 months to fill his overnight campaign promises. After all, that is fair, isn't it?

But of all the actors out there, I think there is one group that is the most against Trump's victory, and cringing at it; conservatives and the Republican leadership.

‘Prediction prof’ who called Trump win says he'll be impeached

Peter W. Stevenson - The Washington Post - Friday, November 11, 2016
https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAkbukM?m=en-us

Few prognosticators predicted a Donald Trump victory ahead of Tuesday night. Polls showed Hillary Clinton comfortably ahead, and much of America (chiefly the media) failed to anticipate the wave of pro-Trump support that propelled him to victory. But a Washington, D.C.-based professor insisted that Trump was lined up for a win — based on the idea that elections are “primarily a reflection on the performance of the party in power.”
Allan Lichtman uses a historically based system of what he calls “keys” to predict election results ahead of time. The keys are explained in-depth in Lichtman’s book “Predicting the Next President: The Keys to the White House 2016.” In our conversations in September and October, he outlined how President Obama's second term set the Democrats up for a tight race, and his keys tipped the balance in Trump's favor, even if just barely.
At the end of our September conversation, Lichtman made another call: That if elected, Trump would eventually be impeached by a Republican Congress that would prefer a President Mike Pence — someone who establishment Republicans know and trust.
“I'm going to make another prediction,” he said. “This one is not based on a system, it's just my gut. They don't want Trump as president, because they can't control him. He's unpredictable. They'd love to have Pence — an absolutely down the line, conservative, controllable Republican. And I'm quite certain Trump will give someone grounds for impeachment, either by doing something that endangers national security or because it helps his pocketbook.”
So while Republican voters clearly came home before Nov. 8 — network exit polls show 90 percent of GOP voters cast ballots for Trump — it's less clear that the party leadership is on board. (Lichtman actually isn't the only person to predict a Trump impeachment; this morning, the New York Times's David Brooks suggested a Trump impeachment or resignation was “probably” in the cards sometime within the next year.)
It's worth noting that Lichtman's predictions use very different methods than pollsters and data-based prognosticators. Some statisticians take issue with the structure of his system, a set of 13 true/false questions, saying that the binary nature of his keys leads to what's called “overfitting,” which is basically creating a system that fits the data but has little statistical significance. But Lichtman counters by saying that the system has correctly predicted every election since 1984 (specifically, his predictions have picked the next president correctly in all of those elections but 2000, when he picked Al Gore, who won the popular vote). And Lichtman has his own criticism for data-based predictions.
“Polls are not predictors,” he said Friday in an email. “They are snapshots that simulate an election. They are abused and misused as predictors. Even the analysis of polls by Nate Silver and others which claimed a probable Clinton victory with from more than 70 percent to 99 percent certainty are mere compilations that are no better than the underlying polls.”
And he has particular disdain for prediction systems that assign a likelihood of winning.
“For all his acclaim, Nate Silver is only a clerk, not a scientific analyst,” Lichtman said.
As for the real reason for Trump's win, Lichtman says the blame can't be put on Hillary Clinton or her campaign — rather, he says, it was decided by the larger forces that shape American politics.
“The Democrats cannot rebuild by pointing fingers at Hillary Clinton and her campaign, which as the Keys demonstrated, were not the root cause of her defeat,” he said. “The Democrats can rehabilitate themselves only by offering an inspiring progressive alternative to Republican policies and building a grass-roots movement.”
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Case in point: <a href="https://t.co/N2uC9ra7vw">pic.twitter.com/N2uC9ra7vw</a></p>— Jason C. (@CounterMoonbat) <a href="https://twitter.com/CounterMoonbat/status/796974304235814912">November 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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You know, Donald Trump, it turns out ran one of the most brilliant political campaigns of all time. He totally bit into the divisive tribal imperative evident in all men, and more evident in those that cannot bring themselves to think and act on a higher level.

Where Hillary counted on votes from the imaginary evolved voter.

Thank you so much for wallowing in the filth of this election, and continuing it forward, but I do have some advice and a prediction.

Trumps path in governance has been narrowed considerably by his campaign :
  • Others, not me of course, are going to be incensed by his failure to jail, or even prosecute Hillary. Where some are going to be dancing the fine line between their hypocrisy over wanting her prosecuted when they thought she would win, and not caring a whit about her now that the election is over, others are not going to forget.
  • Neither are the Racists and other undesirables of whom Donald courted early, and decried later. Pretty soon they are going to realize that his abandonment of them just before the election, wasn't play - that he really was dropping them, after he got all of their votes.
  • Those that thought Trump was anti-establishment! (Mostly poor, stupid, white, and redneck voters. But some who should have known better.)
    [*]And most importantly, conservatives. All of you all will begin to freak. To govern, Trump will have to politically depend more on Democrats than elements within the Republican party, especially since the majority of Americans don't want a conservative party in power! (It is all about change, anti-establishment change, stupid! to modify Carville's quote.)


I will totally suspend my judgement and give Donald about 6 months to fill his overnight campaign promises. After all, that is fair, isn't it?

But of all the actors out there, I think there is one group that is the most against Trump's victory, and cringing at it; conservatives and the Republican leadership.


Bolded is why a lot of people went Trump.
The liberal mindset of you're too stupid to know what's good for you only we do.

The same mindset that allows people to attack a business owner over their personal beliefs, but when someone who's part of their belief structure posts that men will have to pay a 7% tax for the crime of being born with a different chromosone that's ok.

Rage Against the Machine once said "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me" the machine has now become ultra liberalism.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Daughter of slain Dallas cop no longer allowed to give first serve at volleyball game due to "shocking election results"<br><br>Shame on you <a href="https://twitter.com/SMU">@SMU</a> <a href="https://t.co/nQkSntf2RN">pic.twitter.com/nQkSntf2RN</a></p>— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) <a href="https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/797090599795097600">November 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Daughter of slain Dallas cop no longer allowed to give first serve at volleyball game due to "shocking election results"<br><br>Shame on you <a href="https://twitter.com/SMU">@SMU</a> <a href="https://t.co/nQkSntf2RN">pic.twitter.com/nQkSntf2RN</a></p>— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) <a href="https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/797090599795097600">November 11, 2016</a></blockquote>
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SMU already reversed course on that. They gave the ol' "miscommunication" excuse, but it's pretty clear that an overly-sensitive individual convinced someone else to call it off, only for SMU to realize there was an impending sh*tstorm brewing.
 

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See, this I have a problem with too... it should not be a 'scoreboard' and 'we won' thing... whatevers
 
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