2015 PRE SEASON CAMP THREAD

[Sherm Sticky]

While I understand everyone's concerns about where the QB pressure will come from, I am guardedly optimistic about this defensive units' chances because of one thing that was mentioned in the presser: leadership. Joe S., Jarrett G., Sheldon D., Mathias F., Kev. R, not to mention Jaylon and Max. Just a whole lot of leadership and a lot of game experience. Teams and units that play cohesively, inspired and with communication, have success. It is hard to imagine this defense with the talent that they have not playing inspired and with great communication, those are some pretty important keys to success.

Speaking of all this leadership, who or whom do you think are the captan(s) on defense?

Day and Schmidt?


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[Redbar]

Speaking of all this leadership, who or whom do you think are the captan(s) on defense?

Day and Schmidt?


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Honestly, if it were my decision, it would be Schmidt and Farley.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Honestly, if it were my decision, it would be Schmidt and Farley.

I hear that. Only thing is Day was voted a captain last year, doubt he is not a captain this year.


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[Redbar]

I hear that. Only thing is Day was voted a captain last year, doubt he is not a captain this year. Sent via tapatalk

No doubt. I fully expect him to be again this year too, and I am not saying he doesn't deserve to be, just from my view down here in Louisiana, I would pick those two and Day would be my third choice.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

No doubt. I fully expect him to be again this year too, and I am not saying he doesn't deserve to be, just from my view down here in Louisiana, I would pick those two and Day would be my third choice.

My picks would be Schmidt and Jaylon with Day third. Looking ahead to 2016, I think you can guarantee Max is a captain.


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[NDinTEXAS]

I don't know if this is the right place for this but Kell's comment on players of today not being about team unity like they use to be was genious even though he was stumped. check it out its around 48:15. Like I said at first he didn't want to step on toes knowing the reporter was right but he couldn't have given a better answere if it was scripted.

 

[dublinirish]

I'm late to the party, but wrf is periscope?

its a live streaming app similar to ustream but works on mobile devices in conjunction with twitter

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">Day 1 &#55356;&#57152;</p>— Mike McGlinchey (@BigGlinch68) <a href="https://twitter.com/BigGlinch68/status/629604093904965632">August 7, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Great to be back at Culver again with <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball">@NDFootball</a> to start training camp! Just like 20 yrs ago! Go Irish! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TBThursday?src=hash">#TBThursday</a> <a href="http://t.co/x6gApCmU9z">pic.twitter.com/x6gApCmU9z</a></p>— Ron Powlus (@rpowlus) <a href="https://twitter.com/rpowlus/status/629467918917615616">August 7, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[EuropeanDomer22]

The LG starting spot is a battle between Nelson and Bars? Who has the edge?

 

[BeauBenken]

The LG starting spot is a battle between Nelson and Bars? Who has the edge?

I want to say Nelson, and I thought I had the tweet to back it up, but I can't find it anywhere, and I'm worrying that I dreamed it all up.

But screw it, it's Nelson.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

An offseason dedicated to establishing better leadership and internal motivation seems to have taken hold.

Last offseason, you wondered who would be worthy of being named a captain. This summer, it’s hard not to come up with ten names.

Returning captains Nick Martin and Sheldon Day will once again lead their respective units. Kelly called Joe Schmidt one of the best leaders he’s had, and he appears to be the singular leader of the defense. Kelly ticked off name after name after name, players you’d expect—Jarrett Grace, KeiVarae Russell, Ronnie Stanley and Matthias Farley—and some you wouldn’t.

Among that second group is safety Max Redfield. While Kelly acknowledged that just about everybody has a great offseason, he sounded genuine when he talked about the leap forward that his junior safety took.

“I think Max has realized how important football is to him,” Kelly said. “Academics is very important to him. It’s always been important to him. I think he’s seeing how important football is to him as well.”

Kelly praised Redfield for his ability to lead from the front as a vocal communicator, shown these past few days as the Irish completed some unorthodox workouts, including some military training exercises aimed at team building and leadership training.

“He has a gift,” Kelly said of Redfield. “That gift is he’s a great communicator, if given the chance. We gave him a chance the last couple of days to lead and get in front of his peers, and it was well received.”

I find this part (this one of the "five things we learned" from Keith Arnold, of monumental significance.

Everything Kelly has done to reach a National Championship has pointed to it, and everything done in restructuring the program since last season promotes it.

I listen to the stories about Kelly, at his past stops and in South Bend, and no matter how outrageous, or believable, they all points to his coaching shortcomings, principle among them, his micromanaging his teams at every level.

I wonder if the "military training exercises" were conducted by spec ops of the Naval Special Warfare Command? I think Northwestern conducted a similar program a few years ago.

So that is all about leadership (out front) and team building.

A remarkable departure from past examples :

• Last year, the team captains were just plain wrong.
• Too many years the coaches only picked the captains.
• The story about Bob Diaco calling Sheldon Day, the Mayor, smacks of everything wrong with a coach-player relationship.
• Is this even the same coach that had a player insurrection in2011?
• No purple face yesterday!

I think this more than health of individual players, schemes, position moves, medical hardships, and academic suspensions, indicates the potential of this team, as well of its chances at fulfilling that ability.

Any time you get a group strengthening the weakest link, by being responsible for two, opening accountability to all, (and BK was very openly accountable yesterday, more so than ever before) you have a much better chance to meet your goals. That is my overwhelming experience.

The second most intriguing point, in my opinion was the overall strength and conditioning gains of the players, included worthy of note is Hodge, Brent, Watkins, Weishar, Shumate, Blankenship, Byrne, Matuska, Onwualu, Randolph, but most significantly, Joe Schmidt, and Nick Martin. It is one thing for some of the younger guys to make significant gains, but for fifth year grad students to explode on the bench press or with other metrics? And the comment that Kelly made about Martin, a Captain from last year? Plus fourteen pounds, and an entirely different player? That is major!

I didn't include Boykin in that group, because he was an incoming freshman, and technically those gains were from before he came into the program; but, it is a clear indicator at how tightly maintained the metrics for player performance are being kept!

All this above, and Mokwuah and Drew-Treadway, Mustipher, and Monteleus' weight is down! Sounds like things are becoming very focused within the Irish program!

PS. You are right Beau. As of spring it was Nelson. But Bars was going to see significant time, and Kelly alluded at the time, much may be at tackle. Yesterday Kelly alluded that Mustipher, as well as Bars needed to find a place to get significant second team snaps.

 

[IrishLion]

PS. You are right Beau. As of spring it was Nelson. But Bars was going to see significant time, and Kelly alluded at the time, much may be at tackle. Yesterday Kelly alluded that Mustipher, as well as Bars needed to find a place to get significant second team snaps.

He also mentioned Hoge as a guy that needs backup reps at a spot other than center.

I could see Bars being first man in at both tackle spots, with Hoge coming in as a backup guard and Mustipher sticking as the backup center.

This allows Bars to test the water at the position he'll play next year, it allows Hoge to get some reps without the added pressure of running the show from the middle, and it allows Mustipher to remain settled in at center as the man behind Nick. It will help with continuity AND will help get Hoge involved early.

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The accidental thumb in shot from a <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball">@NDFootball</a> AM walk-thru doesn't take away too much from gorgeous backdrop... <a href="http://t.co/DBOOUlhCQv">pic.twitter.com/DBOOUlhCQv</a></p>— Michael Bertsch (@NDsidBertschy) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDsidBertschy/status/629647212000215040">August 7, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[ulukinatme]

"He knows he can put the ball wherever it needs to go. His confidence is real good for our offense," said Fuller. "He’s a lot more vocal (than Everett Golson). Talks a lot more. I think he’s a better leader than Ev.---247

"It’s real great," Fuller said, "and I believe it’s the same thing with every other receiver, because he’s real outgoing and he gets us all out there throwing on a daily basis. We’ve been throwing a lot.

"I feel like some of the guys never had a leader like that. He’s a real emotional guy, so I think it really surprises some of the guys and gets them more of that Malik boot. I think he’s doing a great job leading the offense."247

Damn, I wanna strap a helmet on again. We've been missing leaders like this I think. I hope it translates to the field.

 

[Dizzyphil]

While I understand everyone's concerns about where the QB pressure will come from, I am guardedly optimistic about this defensive units' chances because of one thing that was mentioned in the presser: leadership. Joe S., Jarrett G., Sheldon D., Mathias F., Kev. R, not to mention Jaylon and Max. Just a whole lot of leadership and a lot of game experience. Teams and units that play cohesively, inspired and with communication, have success. It is hard to imagine this defense with the talent that they have not playing inspired and with great communication, those are some pretty important keys to success.

Agreed. The Irish can only improve from last year on the D-side. Hard to fathom that the Irish were 71st in total defense last year .......... Navy was 70th.

Diz

 

[PANDFAN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball">@ndfootball</a> on the field at Culver for day one of fall camp. Complete coverage later on <a href="https://twitter.com/WatchND">@watchnd</a></p>— Jack Nolan (@NDJackNolan) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDJackNolan/status/629665137780133888">August 7, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[50milesSE ND]

Agreed. The Irish can only improve from last year on the D-side. Hard to fathom that the Irish were 71st in total defense last year .......... Navy was 70th.

Diz

Navy was 70th because their offense consumes so much time ofher teams don't get as many plays. Thats why stats aren't all they seem to be.

 

[Cackalacky]

Agreed. The Irish can only improve from last year on the D-side. Hard to fathom that the Irish were 71st in total defense last year .......... Navy was 70th.

Diz

 

[Dizzyphil]

Navy was 70th because their offense consumes so much time ofher teams don't get as many plays. Thats why stats aren't all they seem to be.

Navy's defense is historically never good. Hell, being ranked 70th last year was the first time they broke the top 75 since 2009. (S&P ratings).

Also, I was not comparing the Irish defense to Navy's. Overall, the Irish should at least be top 50 every year. The Arizona State and USC games last year hurt the overall picture not to mention the injuries. But as a Stat - I have to disagree that you will find stats do matter more than one would believe. That's just my opinion - not to demean your statement that they aren't all they seem. But it is a great significance if you look at the '12, '11 and '09 Alabama NCs and all of those years their defense was ranked 2, 1 and 3 respective to those championship years.

Diz

 

[Luckylucci]

Navy's defense is historically never good. Hell, being ranked 70th last year was the first time they broke the top 75 since 2009. (S&P ratings).

Also, I was not comparing the Irish defense to Navy's. Overall, the Irish should at least be top 50 every year. The Arizona State and USC games last year hurt the overall picture not to mention the injuries. But as a Stat - I have to disagree that you will find stats do matter more than one would believe. That's just my opinion - not to demean your statement that they aren't all they seem. But it is a great significance if you look at the '12, '11 and '09 Alabama NCs and all of those years their defense was ranked 2, 1 and 3 respective to those championship years.

Diz

Looking at stats is very important when analyzing performance. Its really the only way to separate fact from opinion. However, I would also say that we need to be careful what we compare it to. In this case I'd rather compare it to historical ND teams in which case it doesn't match up well.

 

[#1rish]

Can anyone post the short video ND Football's twitter just put up?

Malik throwing a bullet. Liked Wimbush's down the middle as well.

 

[OCIrish]

It's only a video that lasts about 6 seconds.

 

[Dizzyphil]

Looking at stats is very important when analyzing performance. Its really the only way to separate fact from opinion. However, I would also say that we need to be careful what we compare it to. In this case I'd rather compare it to historical ND teams in which case it doesn't match up well.

True - I am never one to solely rely on stats - they can lie and often do. But as you say, historically stats hold some weight. I was simply stating the position the Irish held last year and this year, it should be better. I mean, we beat the (statistically) #9 defense in the nation in the Music City Bowl.

Cheers!

 

[FLDomer]

Can anyone post the short video ND Football's twitter just put up?

Malik throwing a bullet. Liked Wimbush's down the middle as well.

DB should have jumped Malik's throw....we are screwed!!!!!

 

[IrishLion]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">QBs are slinging darts on Day 1 <a href="https://t.co/CgYgXSe9El">https://t.co/CgYgXSe9El</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/status/629679868972793857">August 7, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Irish#1]

DB should have jumped Malik's throw....we are screwed!!!!!

I was thinking the same thing! lol

 

[OCIrish]

Brandon has a nice ball on time over the middle.

 

[Irish#1]

Not to go all Pats-crazy like I have in the Deflate thread, but this is similar to what the Patriots did with Gronk/Hernandez and it was pretty much impossible to stop. They could go 5-wide one play due to their athleticism and make no substitutions and pound the ball the next play under center with the two TEs being able to play all over.

If you can go no-huddle with subbing and throw diverse looks at the defense it's going to be trouble for them.

What I'd love to see more than anything else is Alize in the Slot and Smythe lined up as a traditional TE. Alize is supposedly a massive cover issue for a LB, and in theory we should be able to pound the ball if they want to put a DB on him.

I'm chuckling because I was thinking of the Colts offense. They've ran plenty of two TE sets with Manning and now with Luck.

 

[Irishman77]

I'm about toto go full Koon on Malik's biicep

 

[#1rish]

This Periscope app is pretty crazy. I'm literally just watching practice live right now.