2015 NFL Draft

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I think Gurley will be quite good and I think top college RBs have been under-valued the last couple years...but if the Jets want Gurley they could trade down to #15 and still get him.

I'd love the Pats to trade up for Gurley if he's ever there past #20, but they unfortunately have more pressing needs at CB, Guard, and DT.
 

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McShay must know the Jets love Gurley to stick him in his mock so close to the draft so
 

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A pre-NFL draft interview with Notre Dame’s head football coach broadcasted on NFL Network Thursday night inevitably included discussion about a tight end.


Ben Koyack could be the sixth consecutive starting tight end at Notre Dame to be selected in the NFL draft.
The last five Irish starting tight ends were selected in the first or second round of the NFL draft. It’s highly unlikely Ben Koyack’s name is called until the third round, but Irish coach Brian Kelly highlighted what the 6-foot-5, 257-pounder will bring to an NFL roster in his mid-round projection.

“One of the better in-line blocking tight ends that I’ve had,” Kelly told NFL Network. “Durability. Had over 1,000 snaps for us last year. Played in all of our running teams and special teams. A valuable player for any NFL team. He’s got very good ball skills.

“He’s not a guy that’s going to scare you down the middle of the field, but he’s going to be very efficient with his hands and catching the football. I think he’s a middle-round draft pick, and somebody is going to be very happy to have him on their roster.”

One former Irish player who will learn his future during or soon after next week’s draft is wide receiver DaVaris Daniels. The Vernon Hills (Ill.) native was suspended for the spring semester and then for the 2014-15 school year as well after two standout seasons as an underclassman.

Kelly said any problems with Daniels were strictly classroom-based in his time at Notre Dame, and predicted one NFL team could be in for a pleasant surprise.

“Daniels has immense physical talent,” Kelly said. “It’s a shame that obviously he couldn’t get things right academically. But he’s a good kid. We hadn’t had any problems with him other than obviously the academics were difficult for him here at Notre Dame.

“But a supreme talent athletically. He’s going to get a chance, whether he gets drafted or is a free agent, he’s got the talent level to play in the NFL. And I think he’s going to be a surprise for somebody, one of those sleeper picks that makes good in the NFL.”

The Irish coach also believes former kicker and punter Kyle Brindza has the mental makeup an NFL kicker needs.

“Kyle Brindza, one of the pressure players for our team in 2012,” Kelly said. “With kicks that he made in overtime, late in the game to help us go undefeated, I just think he’s got all the intangibles for a kicker. We asked him to punt as well. If he focuses on one of them I think his kicking is really the strength.”

Kelly also discussed how he recruited potential first-round draft pick Ronnie Stanley back to Notre Dame and first-round prospects who lined up against the Irish last fall.

Kelly on Ronnie Stanley returning…

“That was huge, and if you would watch our spring game, I took a lot of grief about this, but one of the things to get him back is that we put in a tight end screen to the tackle in the spring game. One of those things that you got to promise to get a kid to come back. No, I mean, Ronnie was really close to getting his degree and so that was important to him and his family, to get his degree.

“And he had not been involved in one of our offseason conditioning programs because he had elbow surgery one year and then he had an ankle that didn’t allow him to go through all of our offseason training, so this was an opportunity for him to get bigger and stronger. And then Zack Martin spent a lot of time with him about what it takes to be a pro.

“What you have to do and he’s using this year to really think about making that transition to being a pro. So I think he comes out next year. He can be one of the best, if not the best offensive tackle in the draft.”

Kelly on Jameis Winston compared to other QB prospects…

“I think he’s most ready for the NFL. If that’s your No.1 criteria for selecting a quarterback, he’s clearly the most ready. He’s the most polished relative to the passing game that he’s going to have to employ. He’s had to have all of the traditional reads relative to understanding the offenses and the defensive structures that he’s going to see, so he’s the most ready. There are other criteria obviously.

“Many people have talked about character and off the field. I think you can work though those things. I think some of my concerns are he’s a bit of a pocket passer. And he doesn’t have some of the escapability, the ability to move out of the pocket that Mariota has. He’s going to get hit a little bit. Can he hold up to that wear and tear over the long haul? That probably is the only question I have. But he’s definitely ready for the NFL.”

Kelly on what concerns him about Winston…

“I think escapability is what I’m looking for. It doesn’t necessarily need to be a quarterback that can run around. We’re not talking about a guy that needs to run read-option. But I think his escapability is questionable. I think he’s going to work within the limits of his protection and as we all know, they pay a lot of money for those guys that come off the edge. They’re going to get to the quarterback because they want to get paid.

“So that’s my only concern I think he has to work on his escapability and keeping some plays alive, and again, he took some big hits last year. We got to him a number of times and got some big hits on him. So I think that’s my only concern moving forward.”

Kelly on Winston versus Andrew Luck…

“There’s no question that Luck had that escapability to move, evade, tuck it and run, can be a double-threat at times. Probably underrated as a runner as well but I don’t think there’s really a comparison between the two relative to escapability and the ability to move. I think Luck would be a, probably a tick higher too in terms of just overall. The complete package. But escapability, the ability to move, keep plays alive, Andrew Luck obviously had all those things when we went against him for two years.”

Kelly on Southern Cal DT Leonard Williams…

“Usually big defensive linemen, we can get them out of the game on third down. This is a guy that doesn’t come out of the game. He’s going to play all three downs. Extremely athletic football player. So when you’re talking about these big guys inside, you’re generally hoping that you can get them off the field on third down pass rush situations.

“He’s a guy that deflects passes, a guy that can push the pocket, put pressure on the quarterback in passing situations, and he’s obviously extremely athletic. Tackles for a loss, quick first step. Has a very good motor. And is a very smart football player. Like his football IQ and we always felt like he was a guy that we had to game plan for probably one of the only defensive linemen that we played against that we felt like we had to have a game plan for.”

Kelly on WRs DeVante Parker, Jaelen Strong and Nelson Agholor…

“Parker and Strong are similar players. Big body, physical guys can really position you out for the football. More of a perimeter player. Agholor can work inside-out. I think he’s got a little bit more versatility. Certainly can be a productive player in special teams as well, so if you’re looking at some value relative to the overall roster, Agholor gives you a little bit more there. Certainly top-end speed too as well.

“If I’m looking at all three of those, I like Agholor because of his versatility at the position. But both strong and parker, if the ball goes outside and they get one-on-one coverage, they are going to be a physical mismatch for anybody in the NFL on the perimeter.”
 

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McShay Mock 5.0 out today.

1. Jameis Winston TB
2. Marcus mariota Tenn
3. Dante Fowlder Jr. Jac
4. Amari Cooper Oak
5. Shane Ray Wash
6. Todd Curley NYJ
7. Leonard Williams Chi
8. Randy Gregory Atl

9. Brandon Scherff NYG
10. Kevin White Stl

its no wonder mel kiper is always arguing with this guy....disagree with all 4 bolded predictions.

is mcshay represented by same agent as any guys who are consensus to go in the top 25?
 

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its no wonder mel kiper is always arguing with this guy....disagree with all 4 bolded predictions.

is mcshay represented by same agent as any guys who are consensus to go in the top 25?

Yeah, no shit. If Leonard Williams is available @ 4, he'll be a Raider.
 

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1995 #21 overall Rashaan Salaam Half Back Colorado

1998 #5 overall Curtis Enis Half Back Penn State

1999 #12 overall Cade McNown Quarterback UCLA - As bad as this pick is, they did trade down from #7 to pick up this pick, plus picks in round 3, 4 and 5 plus a 2000 round 3 from the Redskins that had been the beneficiary of New Orleans lunacy bid for Ricky Williams. Redskins took Champ Bailey with #7 overall.

2001 #8 overall David Terrell Wide Receiver Michigan

2003 #14 Michael Haynes Defensive end Penn State
2003 #22 Rex Grossman Quarterback Florida - Everyone remembers Grossman but the guy drafted before him by the same team was a WAY bigger bust

2005 #4 Cedric Benson Half Back Texas - And this isn't a bigger bust than Enis?

Jay Cutler is the reason they had no first round pick in 2009 (18 overall) & 2010 (11 overall). That has to rank as a bad draft times 2, however it is not like there were mid first round QBs to speak of coming out those years.
 

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in the same time, Green Bay selects

2009 BJ Raji #9 overall
2009 Clay Matthews #26 overall
2006 AJ Hawk #5 overall
2005 Aaron Rodgers #24 overall
2002 Javon Walker #20
2000 Bubba Franks #14 (probably way too high but at least he produced)
1994-1997, 3 of 4 picks are O-linemen (protect Favre) - Aaron Taylor #16, John Michels #27, Ross Verba #30

Not a lot of pure busts in there.
 

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Pretty good run down of the worst draft picks of all time by team. It is painful to read about some of the players that were left on the board when these draft picks were made. Love the Redskins selection.

The worst draft picks of all time for every NFL team

Is Quinn really a worse pick than Brandon Weeden and some other Cleveland whiffs? The jury is still out on Manziel I guess, but the writing is on the wall there if you ask me. Quinn wasn't necessarily NFL starting QB material, but he proved to be serviceable over his career. His biggest problem seemed to be injuries more than anything. Just when he would get his chance in Cleveland or Kansas City he seemed to go down with an injury that would pull the rug out from under him.
 

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C Brown, T Couch, G Warren, and W Green were all top ten, maybe even top five off memory for the Browns that totally flopped... Quinn isn't in that class... At all. The browns must get the draft right regularly to turn things around, that's why I was so upset at the JFF pick last year.... Such a short sighted, sell jerseys now move.... They MUST get two guys that can contribute at high levels this draft, not drugged up side shows with little to no NFL talent
 

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still cant believe Tampa has been locked in on taking jameis this long.

IMO he is (still) a nightmare waiting to happen.

all these mocks and pundits seem to auto fill him at the top spot.
is there any mock, anywhere, or any reporting saying jameis might not go #1?
 

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I would like to see if anyone could survive the first round using these rules!
 

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still cant believe Tampa has been locked in on taking jameis this long.

IMO he is (still) a nightmare waiting to happen.

all these mocks and pundits seem to auto fill him at the top spot.
is there any mock, anywhere, or any reporting saying jameis might not go #1?

I haven't seen anyone other than Winston at 1. I too find it interesting that there isn't even much discussion on others at the #1. It seemed as though a few months ago there was but not recently.
 

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I would like to see if anyone could survive the first round using these rules!

Saw a slightly different one today that was equally funny/impossible. My favorite was "When Ray Rice starts giving legal advice to a player".
 

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Browns fans,.... What do you want? I want ( with the first rounders) an impact receiver, front seven help, and maybe, just maybe trading up in the late first or early second if Bryce Petty is still there.... thoughts? What are y'all's priorities??
 

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Totally feels like a make up draft tho even if they get it right.... Sammy Watkins ( impact receiver) and Teddy Bridgewater should already be in Browns jerseys... But still, that's what I want
 

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That'll probably cost him a few bucks.
 

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That'll probably cost him a few bucks.

Fall. To. 12.
 

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Browns fans,.... What do you want? I want ( with the first rounders) an impact receiver, front seven help, and maybe, just maybe trading up in the late first or early second if Bryce Petty is still there.... thoughts? What are y'all's priorities??

I'll be happy if we end up with Perriman and Shelton if we stay at 12 & 19. If we trade 12 for #20 and Bradford then id be happy with Malcolm Brown and Perriman.
 

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I'll be happy if we end up with Perriman and Shelton if we stay at 12 & 19. If we trade 12 for #20 and Bradford then id be happy with Malcolm Brown and Perriman.


I similarly be happy with Shelton and a receiver. Wouldn't mind Hundley in the 3rd if he lasts that long.
 

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I remember when Alfonso Denard was arrested the day before the draft.

Oh ya. This was when Belichick could draft/sign anyone with character issues. Then the whole Hernandez thing blew up in his face. Fonzie went from 2nd-3rd rounder to 7th round. He had two INTs against Luck in the playoffs in 2013-2014. though so I still have high hopes for him lol....he's just a bit of an idiot.

I'm still hoping either Shane Ray or Randy Gregory is there at #32 for the Pats.
 

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Oh ya. This was when Belichick could draft/sign anyone with character issues. Then the whole Hernandez thing blew up in his face. Fonzie went from 2nd-3rd rounder to 7th round. He had two INTs against Luck in the playoffs in 2013-2014. though so I still have high hopes for him lol....he's just a bit of an idiot.

I'm still hoping either Shane Ray or Randy Gregory is there at #32 for the Pats.

I think they'll both be there
 

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We still really have no clue what's happening at number one do we?? Somewhat odd, haven't the last handful of drafts had the first overall be pretty obvious? Maybe I'm forgetful...
 

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We still really have no clue what's happening at number one do we?? Somewhat odd, haven't the last handful of drafts had the first overall be pretty obvious? Maybe I'm forgetful...

bush/williams was really the last toss up
 

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We still really have no clue what's happening at number one do we?? Somewhat odd, haven't the last handful of drafts had the first overall be pretty obvious? Maybe I'm forgetful...

Huh? Just about everyone believes that TB is picking Winston unless they get blown away by a trade offer.
 
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