'19 MO RB Kyren Williams (Notre Dame Signee)

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Getting upset about these young men making decisions about what they believe is best for their lives is seriously entitled. Some of you guys are real dipshits.

Not a big surprise that players like Hart don't like fans.
They are generally the same people who cry about a lack of free market or overburdensome regulations too just not for amateur athletes who are essentially have to go to college in order to get to the professional level of the NFL.
 
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You PEOPLE never get it.;

As in you Confederates.

This ain't a plantation and you ain't Monsieur Candy.

What really burns your grits is this, though, isn't it?

.he top pick in the fifth round gets a $698,619 salary and a four-year, $3.64 million contract. The fifth-round salaries range from $698,619 to $669,444. Players selected in the sixth round will get a salary ranging from $662,972 to $642,353. The first pick of the sixth round gets a $662,972 salary as part of a four-year, $3.5 million deal.
So what really fries you is that an African American kid from St. Louis (and I mean St. Louis, no Ladue)

is going to be living La Vida Loca

playing in SoFI

running screens underneath while Coope Kupp goes deep

feeling that soft touch from Matthew Stafford

while you're still stuck, typing, hatin' your usual routine.

Too bad M'sieur Candy, Kyren is Django and i KNOW you hate it.

LOOOL!!
Post of the year?

Awesome
 

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Honestly, I wish he played.

But it's not my place to judge a man for doing what he thinks is best for himself and his family.
Good luck KW! You were a favorite of mine and I hope you rip up the league when you're not playing the Jets.
 

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Honestly, I wish he played.

But it's not my place to judge a man for doing what he thinks is best for himself and his family.
Good luck KW! You were a favorite of mine and I hope you rip up the league when you're not playing the Jets.
I suspect if someone had traveled from the future and told him where he was gonna be drafted... he'd have played. I "get it" when elite dudes sit out. I dont like it but I get it. Ultimately Kyren wasn't viewed in that light. Hope he does well.
 

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They are generally the same people who cry about a lack of free market or overburdensome regulations too just not for amateur athletes who are essentially have to go to college in order to get to the professional level of the NFL.
Oh no. He has to go to college and get a degree from Notre Dame in order to get paid to play the game he loves
The calamity of it all.

Maybe you're right, Cack. Anybody who even has a prayer of playing at the next level should shut it down after two losses every season. It's not like they are getting a degree for playing the game they love.
 
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Thank you. I've turned over a new leaf. Life is too short to be bitter and angry whenever things go wrong.
C’mon Turtle, bring back that lovable, positive attitude you promised. Kid was a warrior for ND and just had a dream come true. I would have liked him to play in the bowl game but he made a different decision. Can’t think of too many people in this world that I agree with all their choices. Hell, I regret a bunch of mine I’ve made.
 

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Getting upset about these young men making decisions about what they believe is best for their lives is seriously entitled. Some of you guys are real dipshits.

Not a big surprise that players like Hart don't like fans.
While it is an inconvenient truth, and one that makes one wince, we ought be cognizant that 2021 was the year when Jaylon Smith was first traded from the Cowboys to the Packers, and then CUT by the Packers.

An d Smith's financial travail began, in voila, the Fiesta Bowl when one of Urban Meyer's punk bitches, Joey Bosa cheap shotted smith after the play was long over.

Our professional cost and forensic accountants would know better, but my amateur guess is that Bosa's shot cost Smith at LEAST $40 million over a football career.
 

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While it is an inconvenient truth, and one that makes one wince, we ought be cognizant that 2021 was the year when Jaylon Smith was first traded from the Cowboys to the Packers, and then CUT by the Packers.

An d Smith's financial travail began, in voila, the Fiesta Bowl when one of Urban Meyer's punk bitches, Joey Bosa cheap shotted smith after the play was long over.

Our professional cost and forensic accountants would know better, but my amateur guess is that Bosa's shot cost Smith at LEAST $40 million over a football career.
To be fair, Jaylon Smith has earned $32 million in six years as a professional football player. Yes he could've earned more if not for getting hurt in that "meaningless" bowl game, but would that we all have such travails.
 

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While it is an inconvenient truth, and one that makes one wince, we ought be cognizant that 2021 was the year when Jaylon Smith was first traded from the Cowboys to the Packers, and then CUT by the Packers.

An d Smith's financial travail began, in voila, the Fiesta Bowl when one of Urban Meyer's punk bitches, Joey Bosa cheap shotted smith after the play was long over.

Our professional cost and forensic accountants would know better, but my amateur guess is that Bosa's shot cost Smith at LEAST $40 million over a football career.
Bosa doesn't play offense and I'm not sure he was even playing in that game.

I forgot who the guilty party was but it was not one of the Bosa guys.
 

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C’mon Turtle, bring back that lovable, positive attitude you promised. Kid was a warrior for ND and just had a dream come true. I would have liked him to play in the bowl game but he made a different decision. Can’t think of too many people in this world that I agree with all their choices. Hell, I regret a bunch of mine I’ve made.
You're right. I'll drop it.
 

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Bosa doesn't play offense and I'm not sure he was even playing in that game.

I forgot who the guilty party was but it was not one of the Bosa guys.
Ha. Right. It was Taylor Decker. (Currently the second highest paid player on the Detroit Lions).

Bosa was ejected from the Fiesta Bowl for targeting for spearing Kizer on a rollout. But he didn't hurt Jaylon Smith.
 

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Bosa doesn't play offense and I'm not sure he was even playing in that game.

I forgot who the guilty party was but it was not one of the Bosa guys.
If I recall Jaylon smith went down and the very next series Bosa immediately gets ejected for targeting.
 

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I know he already signed his rookie contract. But does anyone know what would happen if this occurred before he signed it?
 

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I know he already signed his rookie contract. But does anyone know what would happen if this occurred before he signed it?

If the injury occurred in a non-football activity, the team would have the right and ability to not tender a contract. Generally, teams will honor what the payout for the draft slot would be. If the injury happened during football activities, and one’s organized by the team, then the team is on the hook to pay the player.

Being that this is a broken foot, I doubt that it would have entered a scenario where the team would look to walk away.
 

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Well shit! Hate to hear that. And no comments about karma from any of you.
Glad it happened now. If it had happened in a New Yats bowl game that we haven't won in almost 30 years, he might have slipped from a late 5th to an early 6th.
 

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Can't imagine why any ND fan would ever make any negative comment toward Kyren Williams --- one of best hard-working teammates ever.
Hi, Mike! In case you forgot, Kyren--as a healthy team captain and one of our most important skill players--voluntarily chose to sit out the Fiesta Bowl on the advice of his slimy f*cking agent, and may have cost us our first NY6 Bowl win in 28 years in the process. Pretty easy to imagine why that might have upset some ND fans.
 

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I mean, if anything, breaking his foot right after he signs his contract is more justification that he shouldn’t have risked the bowl game anyway.
 

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Hope its not my old friend Liz Frank (lisfranc). My chiropractor always tell me to take care of my back and my feet.
 

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Hi, Mike! In case you forgot, Kyren--as a healthy team captain and one of our most important skill players--voluntarily chose to sit out the Fiesta Bowl on the advice of his slimy f*cking agent, and may have cost us our first NY6 Bowl win in 28 years in the process. Pretty easy to imagine why that might have upset some ND fans.
Not to downplay Kyren's immense importance to the team..and I should mention he's my favorite back since Theo, but I don't think his presence in the backfield would have changed a whole lot in that Fiesta Bowl. All our backs struggled to find running room in that game, and while Kyren certainly showed time and again how hard he is to bring down there's only so much I think even he could have done against that run defense.

That said...while Tyree was also well contained in the run game, he did manage to do well on receptions. Kyren could have had an equally positive impact if we flexed him out to the Slot maybe to spell the tired receivers 2nd half. I think that's how he could have been effective at least. He might have broken a few more big runs that the other guys wouldn't have, but asking more than that would have been a lot even for him. More than Kyren we probably could have used Kyle back to help the struggling defense, but honestly I don't blame either for sitting out.
 

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Hi, Mike! In case you forgot, Kyren--as a healthy team captain and one of our most important skill players--voluntarily chose to sit out the Fiesta Bowl on the advice of his slimy f*cking agent, and may have cost us our first NY6 Bowl win in 28 years in the process. Pretty easy to imagine why that might have upset some ND fans.
Thank you. Thank you so damn much for saying this. I owe you a beer or top shelf whiskey bourbon or scotch product. If you ask for a seltzer maybe not so much lmao
 

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Hi, Mike! In case you forgot, Kyren--as a healthy team captain and one of our most important skill players--voluntarily chose to sit out the Fiesta Bowl on the advice of his slimy f*cking agent, and may have cost us our first NY6 Bowl win in 28 years in the process. Pretty easy to imagine why that might have upset some ND fans.
I think he trusted that we would act like Christians here and be sorrowful for Kyren. We're all frustrated at the captains sitting out the Fiesta Bowl, but Our Lady wants us to be better than the natural pettiness CFB turns us to. Well, maybe She don't care so much if we have schadenfreude for Michigan...
 

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I think he trusted that we would act like Christians here and be sorrowful for Kyren. We're all frustrated at the captains sitting out the Fiesta Bowl, but Our Lady wants us to be better than the natural pettiness CFB turns us to. Well, maybe She don't care so much if we have schadenfreude for Michigan...
I still love Kyren and wish him well. Did anyone here make a snide comment about this being karma?

I only take issue with the idea that Kyren is beyond reproach. He made a selfish decision and his team suffered for it. I'm still a fan, but that's not the way a captain should leave ND, and it's not fair to expect fans to pretend it didn't happen.
 
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