'18 IL ATH Houston Griffith (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[BobbyMac]

A couple two three

It's... A couple two tree.

Who taught you's guys from Cleveland hahda talk?

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

It's... A couple two tree.

Who taught you's guys from Cleveland hahda talk?

Dat's da Chicago way.

 

[dad4aa]

Isn't it amazing when you have a DC that is also a good recruiter? BVG not only killed our defense on the field, he killed the defenses of the future by half assing it on the trail. Lea has done a great job of fixing the years of mistakes by BVG.

The 2018 and 2019 defensive classes are just the beginning to what will hopefully be some dominant defenses.

Aren't some of our seniors and Juniors on this D recruits from BVG era?

From BVG era yes...recruited by BVG, few if any (to arrowryan's point)

 

[fightingirish26]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Think I made the right choice 10-0☘️ <a href="https://t.co/wGyGaVYnSJ">pic.twitter.com/wGyGaVYnSJ</a></p>— Houston Griffith (@___HG3) <a href="https://twitter.com/___HG3/status/1061733256171798528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[BobbyMac]

Now I hope ND makes the right choice which is moving him back to safety.

 

[greyhammer90]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Think I made the right choice 10-0☘️ <a href="https://t.co/wGyGaVYnSJ">pic.twitter.com/wGyGaVYnSJ</a></p>— Houston Griffith (@___HG3) <a href="https://twitter.com/___HG3/status/1061733256171798528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[IrishFaninTX]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Think I made the right choice 10-0☘️ <a href="https://t.co/wGyGaVYnSJ">pic.twitter.com/wGyGaVYnSJ</a></p>— Houston Griffith (@___HG3) <a href="https://twitter.com/___HG3/status/1061733256171798528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hope this helps other recruits who have been enamored with teams like FSU and USC realize how hot ND is and they are the team who can offer it all right now. Great academics and a great football program.

 

[NDVirginia19]

I wonder what the odds are for Houston to move outside and play opposite Pride next year

 

[NDMIA]

I wonder what the odds are for Houston to move outside and play opposite Pride next year

I hope really low cause he could be a decent corner, but a great safety. I'd rather he be a great safety. Don't think his coverage ability is amazing and that's a huge requirement for the CB position

 

[Irish Man3]

I hope really low cause he could be a decent corner, but a great safety. I'd rather he be a great safety. Don't think his coverage ability is amazing and that's a huge requirement for the CB position

I second this. We have Bracy and a few other young kids that I'd like to see given a shot opposite Pride next year, first.

I think ND has recruited well enough on defense to finally let kids play where they belong and where they fit rather than forcing them to play early in a different position.

 

[Ricochet]

I hope really low cause he could be a decent corner, but a great safety. I'd rather he be a great safety. Don't think his coverage ability is amazing and that's a huge requirement for the CB position

I hear that but Kyle Hamilton is going to blow up that narrative at FS.. This spring I think the prudent thing to do is to give HG plenty of options at both CB and S positions.

 

[Irish Man3]

I hear that but Kyle Hamilton is going to blow up that narrative at FS.. This spring I think the prudent thing to do is to give HG plenty of options at both CB and S positions.

So was Max Redfield.....

 

[Ricochet]

So was Max Redfield.....

That's not a valid argument BTW one could say the same about HG.

 

[pumpdog20]

We shall never be excited about any stud safety recruit because of Max Redfield.

 

[Irish Man3]

That's not a valid argument BTW one could say the same about HG.

It is a valid argument. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. HG is not a counter point to the argument. HG wasn't a guy who came in and solved FS problems from Day 1 which was the original argument. He also wasn't a 5* FS prospect that fans were over the moon about BEFORE he arrived on campus.

Not sure I ever said not to be excited about Hamilton coming in. All I'm saying is to think he'll be the reason we can move Houston to a new position, seems over the top.

 

[NDMIA]

I hear that but Kyle Hamilton is going to blow up that narrative at FS.. This spring I think the prudent thing to do is to give HG plenty of options at both CB and S positions.

If Todd Lyght, Terry Joseph, and Clark Lea agree that Houston Griffith will be best long term at Corner then I’m all for it, but if it’s a case of flip flopping him from Nickel to corner to safety based on need then it would be silly cause they’ve recruited really well and I hope they can get the best players at their best positions. I understand you want to get the most talented 4-6 guys playing DB to get on the field but they will develop better probably with their focus being on a singular position. Master of one instead of good at some.

 

[Irish YJ]

If Todd Lyght, Terry Joseph, and Clark Lea agree that Houston Griffith will be best long term at Corner then I’m all for it, but if it’s a case of flip flopping him from Nickel to corner to safety based on need then it would be silly cause they’ve recruited really well and I hope they can get the best players at their best positions. I understand you want to get the most talented 4-6 guys playing DB to get on the field but they will develop better probably with their focus being on a singular position. Master of one instead of good at some.

I just want the best guys on the field. If someone moves from their best position, to a position of greater need, so be it. I just hope if there are young guys that can contribute early, they get an adequate shot at PT to prove their worth. I'm happy to risk a little for higher reward.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

B/t Griffith, Derrik Allen, and Kyle Hamilton, something has to give, assuming all three pan out, which is a big assumption. I'm not against HG at CB if that means all three of these (again, assumed) studs can get on the field together down the road.

 

[Rack Em]

B/t Griffith, Derrik Allen, and Kyle Hamilton, something has to give, assuming all three pan out, which is a big assumption. I'm not against HG at CB if that means all three of these (again, assumed) studs can get on the field together down the road.

Allen could easily move to Rover or Buck in the next year, like Drue Tranquill. If he's a thumper, then it probably makes the most sense to move him near the line of scrimmage and let him cover a slot receiver/TE/RB while supporting the run.

Then Griffith and Hamilton lock down the two safety positions (theoretically).

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Allen could easily move to Rover or Buck in the next year, like Drue Tranquill. If he's a thumper, then it probably makes the most sense to move him near the line of scrimmage and let him cover a slot receiver/TE/RB while supporting the run.

Then Griffith and Hamilton lock down the two safety positions (theoretically).

If this happens...giggity.

 

[NDIrish88]

Allen could easily move to Rover or Buck in the next year, like Drue Tranquill. If he's a thumper, then it probably makes the most sense to move him near the line of scrimmage and let him cover a slot receiver/TE/RB while supporting the run.

Then Griffith and Hamilton lock down the two safety positions (theoretically).

That sounds like the most logical option. The other option which has also been discussed is Hamilton and Allen at Safety and Griffith could be a corner. I guess the question remains whether Griffith is a better corner vs Allen as a rover? I'd lean toward Allen being a better rover candidate however I think rover depth if Allen joins will be super deep if JOK and Marist are there. It would be nice to see Allen and Hamilton at Safety and Griffith at corner though.

 

[BobbyMac]

Griffith will never be a good CB at ND. I doubt he even plays there. He got bumped to FS at IMG when Greg Newsome transferred in for their senior years. He's a safety and he could play either one. He has some big boy genes too so don't be surprised to see him carry a lot more weight.

It's obvious that ND has more pegs than holes at DB & LB. And we are in for a wild ride as they figure out who goes where and who defects.

 

[NDIrish88]

Griffith will never be a good CB at ND. I doubt he even plays there. He got bumped to FS at IMG when Greg Newsome transferred in for their senior years. He's a safety and he could play either one. He has some big boy genes too so don't be surprised to see him carry a lot more weight.

It's obvious that ND has more pegs than holes at DB & LB. And we are in for a wild ride as they figure out who goes where and who defects.

If Giffith grows into a Gilman with Hamilton playing FS, then Allen has to become a rover. You are right Crus. LB and DB spots are going to be very competitive next year and beyond.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Griffith will never be a good CB at ND. I doubt he even plays there. He got bumped to FS at IMG when Greg Newsome transferred in for their senior years. He's a safety and he could play either one. He has some big boy genes too so don't be surprised to see him carry a lot more weight.

It's obvious that ND has more pegs than holes at DB & LB. And we are in for a wild ride as they figure out who goes where and who defects.

This is a good situation to have.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

I'm confident Bracey will be a reliable corner next year he didn't do all that bad for a Freshman

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

This is a good situation to have.

Having a lot of pegs at LB doesn't mean any of them will fit well. ND's total reluctance to get people on the field while Tranquill was playing with one hand and one ankle seems like a pretty big vote of no confidence from the staff.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I love Allen's athleticism and I don't think he'll be in consideration for the secondary. He's going to be too big in the spring, mark it down.

I would think Griffith belongs at a safety position, as does Hamilton. I suppose if any of the secondary/LBs can't get meaningful minutes, there's a lot of athleticism that could be tested on offense.

 

[IrishLax]

Griffith needs to be a safety, Allen probably needs to be a hybrid linebacker. He's a tweener right now and it's easier to get big and keep enough speed to be a fast linebacker than it is to stay trim and be a "fast enough" DB. He could be absolutely elite in how USC used to use Su'a Cravens and how Tranquill was used in 2017.

 

[fightingirish26]

I suppose if any of the secondary/LBs can't get meaningful minutes, there's a lot of athleticism that could be tested on offense.

Kiser to RB? hmmm

 

[zelezo vlk]

So it's decided, Houston will rotate in at safety behind Alohi, and Derrik Allen is the new rover.