'18 FL OT Nicholas Petit-Frere (Offer)

IrishinTN · Oct 20, 2017

connor_in said:
OK, thanks for the FYI from ISD on the OV for USC, IMHO that was a HR by you my BFF who is savage AF.

WTF?

Meatloaf · Oct 20, 2017

connor_in said:
OK, thanks for the FYI from ISD on the OV for USC, IMHO that was a HR by you my BFF who is savage AF.

SMD

BGIF · Oct 20, 2017

connor_in said:
OK, thanks for the FYI from ISD on the OV for USC, IMHO that was a HR by you my BFF who is savage AF.

IrishinTN said:
WTF?

Conor spent the day with his middle school granddaughter.

connor_in · Oct 20, 2017

BGIF said:
Conor spent the day with his middle school granddaughter.

How old do you think I am?

Veritate Duce Progredi · Oct 24, 2017

Anything on his visit? Would love to add him to Hiestand's stable.

Irish Man3 · Oct 24, 2017

Veritate Duce Progredi said:
Anything on his visit? Would love to add him to Hiestand's stable.

This kid plays everything so close to the vest. I know he stayed on campus for most of Sunday. He also did an interview with ISD but again, nothing noteworthy.

"Pretty good"
"Nice"

But apparently that's just how this kid is. He has been in very good contact with ND throughout the process. Bama, Auburn, Florida, and OSU all right there....

BobbyMac · Oct 24, 2017

Not a freebie:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2018 four-star OL Nicholas Petit-Frere recaps his <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> official visit. ($)<a href="https://t.co/DEz8iVr51J">https://t.co/DEz8iVr51J</a></p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/922473698682171392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ndirish9357 · Oct 25, 2017

Loy has stated that ND is out for Murray and that's all he will say at this time but will give details after signing day...Multiple posters have proposed that the staff was given a silent commit from an OL recruit (NPF) and Loy has not refuted it. I'm not sure if he puts in CBs for silent commits or not but there has been no movement yet. I think it might be just as likely that the staff did not like Murray's height but it's something to ponder

BobbyMac · Oct 25, 2017

ndirish9357 said:
Loy has stated that ND is out for Murray and that's all he will say at this time but will give details after signing day...Multiple posters have proposed that the staff was given a silent commit from an OL recruit (NPF) and Loy has not refuted it. I'm not sure if he puts in CBs for silent commits or not but there has been no movement yet. I think it might be just as likely that the staff did not like Murray's height but it's something to ponder

Hopefully ND wouldn't spend thousands of dollars and waste the time of prospective athletes and their families by flying them across the country only to have HH neg stamp the operation because Murray was 6-2 7/8's... after Polian has been to his school numerous times and i believe in home.

zelezo vlk · Oct 25, 2017

Yeah, deficient size sounds like something Loy could share. This sounds like something else, though I don't think speculation on what exactly is necessary

IrishFanJMercy · Oct 25, 2017

Maybe they got a silent from a 2019 kid? Carrol?

mhunter123 · Oct 25, 2017

It would make sense if indeed NPF is a silent commit as he was included in the group photo of current commits. Hopefully it is true.

beryirish · Oct 25, 2017

mhunter123 said:
It would make sense if indeed NPF is a silent commit as he was included in the group photo of current commits. Hopefully it is true.

What group photo? The one below taken at the game doesn't have him in it. IF that's him in the back left then he's not IN the pic with the commits.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Had a great time on my official visit with my new family �� <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NDFootball</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachBrianKelly?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CoachBrianKelly</a> <a href="https://t.co/yM95DKqB40">pic.twitter.com/yM95DKqB40</a></p>— Kevin Austin Jr (@Ka_szn) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ka_szn/status/922638945707577344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 24, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Irish Man3 · Oct 25, 2017

mhunter123 said:
It would make sense if indeed NPF is a silent commit as he was included in the group photo of current commits. Hopefully it is true.

It's not true. He's not a silent. Unless certain staff members are out of the loop...

Murray not being a take could be a lot of different things. Loy not shooting down the silent commit angle is just a way to keep clicks going, IMO.

dwshade · Oct 25, 2017

A reliable poster on another board who is from Florida says the word around there is NPF is backing off Florida and is a strong lean to ND. TWIW.

dwshade · Oct 25, 2017

Irish Man3 said:
It's not true. He's not a silent. Unless certain staff members are out of the loop...

Murray not being a take could be a lot of different things. Loy not shooting down the silent commit angle is just a way to keep clicks going, IMO.

I never buy into this silent commit stuff.

Irish Man3 · Oct 25, 2017

dwshade said:
A reliable poster on another board who is from Florida says the word around there is NPF is backing off Florida and is a strong lean to ND. TWIW.

Now this I've heard and this i can get on board with. Communication even since the trip has been great. He's only been back from the trip for two days so I'm not sure what he could have told UF for it to get around that fast. Time will tell.

NPF is arguably the biggest fish left in the tank for 2018, minus maybe ASB. Me personally, I'd take NPF

connor_in · Oct 25, 2017

dwshade said:
I never buy into this silent commit stuff.

A lot of kids don't have many qualms backing out of an announced commitment, so a silent one would probably mean even less. I get that a coach might want to make sure he has room, but as we know, that generally isn't a ND type of problem.

dwshade · Oct 25, 2017

Irish Man3 said:
Now this I've heard and this i can get on board with. Communication even since the trip has been great. He's only been back from the trip for two days so I'm not sure what he could have told UF for it to get around that fast. Time will tell.

NPF is arguably the biggest fish left in the tank for 2018, minus maybe ASB. Me personally, I'd take NPF

I want both. ASB can be a game changer as a receiver. NPF strikes me as a perfect fit for ND and HH.

ndcoltsfan2010 · Oct 25, 2017

dwshade said:
I want both. ASB can be a game changer as a receiver. NPF strikes me as a perfect fit for ND and HH.

Totally agree with you! Both would be very welcome additions to this awesome class.

IrishFanJMercy · Oct 25, 2017

Kid reminds me of Ronnie Stanley

dwshade · Oct 25, 2017

IrishFanJMercy said:
Kid reminds me of Ronnie Stanley

I can see that. Looks like a potential LT to me. Staff is trying to get him back on campus for banquet. Would be his 3rd trip to ND and would be a great sign.

Domina Nostra · Oct 25, 2017

He is most definitely an LT! Ronnie is a great comparison.

stlnd01 · Oct 25, 2017

Is this guy pretty much it for OL recruiting? Or are there other prospects out there? The current haul is not what we've become accustomed to.

koonja · Oct 25, 2017

stlnd01 said:
Is this guy pretty much it for OL recruiting? Or are there other prospects out there? The current haul is not what we've become accustomed to.

Right? Not to be a debby downer, but HH has recruited very well before, and this is the most dominating OL we've had in his time, and he has potentially two first round OL to brag about. On top of that, NFL people are constantly tweeting about how great the ND OL is. This should be the easiest sell ever. I think we have two 3-star guys committed right?

And for the great OL HH has produced, he doesn't typically do it with 3-star guys. So the above point is a little concerning IMO.

Quenton Nelson - 5 star
Mike McGlinchey - mid 4 star
Ronnie Stanley - high 4 star

can't remember when Nick Martin came or how much credit to attribute to HH for him.

Domina Nostra · Oct 25, 2017

koonja said:
Right? Not to be a debby downer, but HH has recruited very well before, and this is the most dominating OL we've had in his time, and he has potentially two first round OL to brag about. On top of that, NFL people are constantly tweeting about how great the ND OL is. This should be the easiest sell ever. I think we have two 3-star guys committed right?

And for the great OL HH has produced, he doesn't typically do it with 3-star guys. So the above point is a little concerning IMO.

Quenton Nelson - 5 star
Mike McGlinchey - mid 4 star
Ronnie Stanley - high 4 star

can't remember when Nick Martin came or how much credit to attribute to HH for him.

You forgot Q Nelson!

I think its kind of lame too, but apparently they haven't been very impressed with this year's crop. They got those 4 good ones last year, so may not be feeling the need.

If they add NPF they will be a fine. He's a high 4-star.

zelezo vlk · Oct 25, 2017

Jamie at ISD has been saying since spring that this is a down year on the O Line. NPF is one of the only guys he'd consider truly elite

ab2cmiller · Oct 25, 2017

koonja said:
Right? Not to be a debby downer, but HH has recruited very well before, and this is the most dominating OL we've had in his time, and he has potentially two first round OL to brag about. On top of that, NFL people are constantly tweeting about how great the ND OL is. This should be the easiest sell ever. I think we have two 3-star guys committed right?

And for the great OL HH has produced, he doesn't typically do it with 3-star guys. So the above point is a little concerning IMO.

Quenton Nelson - 5 star
Mike McGlinchey - mid 4 star
Ronnie Stanley - high 4 star

can't remember when Nick Martin came or how much credit to attribute to HH for him.

Nick was a 3 Star

ndfb3.1 · Oct 25, 2017

stlnd01 said:
Is this guy pretty much it for OL recruiting? Or are there other prospects out there? The current haul is not what we've become accustomed to.

Wonder if Cade Mays will take an OV to ND?

KizerWilhelm · Oct 25, 2017

zelezo vlk said:
Yeah, deficient size sounds like something Loy could share. This sounds like something else, though I don't think speculation on what exactly is necessary

The thing is, I think Loy would be hesitant to come out and say "Notre Dame doesn't want Murray because of his size" The fact that Notre Dame offered him and than invited him on campus for a visit (and not for an evaluation) and then flaked because of something you could see from miles away would be a terrible look.

Maybe this is too Macchiavelian, but I suspect Notre Dame was never super interested in Murray to begin with and saw it as a way to endear themselves to ARSB. I think that's more likely than a silent commit from NPF.

I never buy into this silent commit stuff.

A good rule is that if you hear whispers about it, it's not true. Real silent commits come as a complete shock.

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