'17 GA S Isaiah Pryor (Notre Dame Grad Transfer)

[D-BOE34]

I doubt it. He transferred here because he wants to play in the NFL and this is already his fifth year after HS so really he is the same age as a RS Senior. No need to lose another prime year when he has already established himself.

Unless you have millions to earn

 

[stlnd01]

Unless you have millions to earn

Does he though? He’ll have been a two-year starter. He’s not getting any bigger or faster. Gilman kind of is who he is at this point. Maybe next year’s safety class is weak or something but hard to see him boosting his draft stock much with another year at ND.
I hope he stays too, for ND’s sake. But if he does it won’t be to improve his draft position.

 

[Irish8248]

Does he though? He’ll have been a two-year starter. He’s not getting any bigger or faster. Gilman kind of is who he is at this point. Maybe next year’s safety class is weak or something but hard to see him boosting his draft stock much with another year at ND.
I hope he stays too, for ND’s sake. But if he does it won’t be to improve his draft position.

Same thing could've been said for Harrison Smith. Then it all just clicked and hes a top safety in the league.

 

[stpeteirish]

Ironic: Pryor was roomates with Houston Griffith one year at IMG. Certainly looks like they'll be competing for one spot in next year's secondary.

 

[IrishLion]

Ironic: Pryor was roomates with Houston Griffith one year at IMG. Certainly looks like they'll be competing for one spot in next year's secondary.

Plot Twist:

Pryor comes in and forms a three-man rotation with Hamilton and Griffith, keeping everybody healthy, happy, satisfied, and on fresh legs, much like they're doing this year with Elliott, Gilman and Hamilton.

I don't like the vibes I'm getting from everyone that seem to think this is a Griffith OR Pryor situation, rather than seeing it as adding valuable depth and competition to a group that will likely all get plenty of chances to play regardless of who the first guy on the field is.

 

[BabyIrish]

Plot Twist:

Pryor comes in and forms a three-man rotation with Hamilton and Griffith, keeping everybody healthy, happy, satisfied, and on fresh legs, much like they're doing this year with Elliott, Gilman and Hamilton.

I don't like the vibes I'm getting from everyone that seem to think this is a Griffith OR Pryor situation, rather than seeing it as adding valuable depth and competition to a group that will likely all get plenty of chances to play regardless of who the first guy on the field is.

Exactly. I think it’s pretty clear at least on the defensive side of the ball that we are trying to go with a more of a share time with reps then just the starters receiving all the reps. No reason that the three of Pryor, Griffith and Hamilton can’t split reps evenly.

 

[Rogue219]

Same thing could've been said for Harrison Smith. Then it all just clicked and hes a top safety in the league.

He played at OLB for a time at ND, don't forget.

 

[NDty9]

Versatility and Depth is all Lea needs!...

 

[Wingman Ray]

This is my only issue and I will probably get roasted for it but cant help it:

If the guy cant start at OSU, doesnt that say something?

I would put ND against OSU any day. Im not saying ND would win but it isnt a glaring difference. Is ND in such a bind that it cant develop its own talent and have to bet on taking other teams spare parts?

Gilman transfer made since for him and ND as he was stepping up. Here I see a guy that is a career backup. Now if ND needs backups, fine. But at the cost of a future starter no doubt.

 

[ab2cmiller]

He played in all 14 games as a Freshman
Started half the games as a Sophomore
pOSU switched defensive schemes this year and are primarily using a single deep safety.

 

[ThePiombino]

This is my only issue and I will probably get roasted for it but cant help it:

If the guy cant start at OSU, doesnt that say something?

Yes, they're EXTREMELY talented at DB

 

[Luckylucci]

Plot Twist:

Pryor comes in and forms a three-man rotation with Hamilton and Griffith, keeping everybody healthy, happy, satisfied, and on fresh legs, much like they're doing this year with Elliott, Gilman and Hamilton.

I don't like the vibes I'm getting from everyone that seem to think this is a Griffith OR Pryor situation, rather than seeing it as adding valuable depth and competition to a group that will likely all get plenty of chances to play regardless of who the first guy on the field is.

Seems like the fanbase has become obsessed with searching for the next transfer. Don’t get it.

 

[Buckeyes]

Elevenwarriors commenters had several recurring types of posts

Pryor took bad angles
Pryor didn't play fast
Defensive Coaching sucked last year, so nobody played up to their abilities.
Single Deep safety means limited amount of playing time available.
Some thought he should bulk up a little and play OLB

This is all accurate. But I will say that I don't think OSU got a chance to see him at his full potential. He was still a young player last year, so mistakes were to be expected. And as stated, our defensive coaching left a lot to be desired last year. Nobody played well consistently.

Some plays, he'd come downhill like a mad man and stop the ball carrier at the LOS forcefully. Other plays, he'd come down out of control and totally overrun the play. He was forced to play tons of man last year on the opposing team's slot WR. That's never been his strong suit, even going back to HS. This year, he just isn't a fit for the safety spots. He could've been a fit for the Bullet position, but he was 3rd on the depth chart there behind Pete Werner and Brendan White.

I don't think we've seen the best of him though. Once he finds a spot and a defensive coaching staff that gives a damn, he'll be solid. Probably not a game changer, but he is a definite contributor somewhere.

 

[ThePiombino]

This is all accurate. But I will say that I don't think OSU got a chance to see him at his full potential. He was still a young player last year, so mistakes were to be expected. And as stated, our defensive coaching left a lot to be desired last year. Nobody played well consistently.

Some plays, he'd come downhill like a mad man and stop the ball carrier at the LOS forcefully. Other plays, he'd come down out of control and totally overrun the play. He was forced to play tons of man last year on the opposing team's slot WR. That's never been his strong suit, even going back to HS. This year, he just isn't a fit for the safety spots. He could've been a fit for the Bullet position, but he was 3rd on the depth chart there behind Pete Werner and Brendan White.

I don't think we've seen the best of him though. Once he finds a spot and a defensive coaching staff that gives a damn, he'll be solid. Probably not a game changer, but he is a definite contributor somewhere.

Thanks for the feedback. At your current rate of posting, we'll see ya again in February!

 

[Me2SouthBend]

This is all accurate. But I will say that I don't think OSU got a chance to see him at his full potential. He was still a young player last year, so mistakes were to be expected. And as stated, our defensive coaching left a lot to be desired last year. Nobody played well consistently.

Some plays, he'd come downhill like a mad man and stop the ball carrier at the LOS forcefully. Other plays, he'd come down out of control and totally overrun the play. He was forced to play tons of man last year on the opposing team's slot WR. That's never been his strong suit, even going back to HS. This year, he just isn't a fit for the safety spots. He could've been a fit for the Bullet position, but he was 3rd on the depth chart there behind Pete Werner and Brendan White.

I don't think we've seen the best of him though. Once he finds a spot and a defensive coaching staff that gives a damn, he'll be solid. Probably not a game changer, but he is a definite contributor somewhere.

Thanks for the intel and F*** Michigan!

 

[snoopdog]

This is my only issue and I will probably get roasted for it but cant help it:

If the guy cant start at OSU, doesnt that say something?

I would put ND against OSU any day. Im not saying ND would win but it isnt a glaring difference. Is ND in such a bind that it cant develop its own talent and have to bet on taking other teams spare parts?

Gilman transfer made since for him and ND as he was stepping up. Here I see a guy that is a career backup. Now if ND needs backups, fine. But at the cost of a future starter no doubt.

Completely agree. Looked at his film and was very surprised he was so highly rated out of IMG. Not surprised he couldn't crack the starting rotation at OSU

 

[fightingirish26]

Let's just assume three safeties would get serious playing time next year, two of them being Hamilton and Griffith. Take your pick on the third: DJ Brown or Isaiah Pryor?

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

We likely lose both starting safeties. We need talent at safety. This guy can come in and compete for playing time. I don't see anything but positive. If someone else loses out on playing time then they need to get better.

 

[Irish#1]

If he comes, it offers some quality depth. Maybe not a starter, but we are seeing Lea try to get guys some rest with a few plays off during the game. And has mentioned, you never know about injuries.

 

[arrowryan]

In today’s podcast, Pete said Pryor’s name in relation to Notre Dame’s safeties next year with no hesitation. Have to think this is almost a done deal.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Since I have been out here on IE, I have heard about the need to build depth. You build depth by taking a player like Pryor who can possibly play three positions. And if others talk about transferring, not signing, etc., then you have to ask... do you really want players on your team that aren't willing to compete? My answer is no.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Since I have been out here on IE, I have heard about the need to build depth. You build depth by taking a player like Pryor who can possibly play three positions. And if others talk about transferring, not signing, etc., then you have to ask... do you really want players on your team that aren't willing to compete? My answer is no.

So if Pryor is transferring, is he willing to compete? Confused now if we should not want Pryor since the answer to my question must be no.

 

[T Town Tommy]

So if Pryor is transferring, is he willing to compete? Confused now if we should not want Pryor since the answer to my question must be no.

If the defensive scheme at tOSU changed and doesn't fit his particular skill sets then him transferring probably makes more sense. That I don't know.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Yeah I thought somebody mentioned the Buckeyes switching over to a single high safety.

 

[Buckeyes]

Since I have been out here on IE, I have heard about the need to build depth. You build depth by taking a player like Pryor who can possibly play three positions. And if others talk about transferring, not signing, etc., then you have to ask... do you really want players on your team that aren't willing to compete? My answer is no.

Sorry to bombard with so much Buckeye info, but I'll say if Isaiah joins the Irish, he will compete, be an asset to the team and community, and will represent your university the right way. He comes from a great family and he isn't one of those kids leaving because he doesn't want to compete. He will compete and be a great teammate.

He just found himself on the outs because of scheme. Here is a question asked about the safety position to Ryan Day after Isaiah decided to transfer:

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-...ward-Nebraska-match-up-136057640/#136057640_8

Q: Back to the safety question, now that you guys have changed the defense a little bit and are playing more just the one high safety, does that change anything as far as you're recruiting that position?

RYAN DAY: Yeah, it does for sure, and we've made some of those adjustments based on the body types we're looking for and the job description that we want out of our corner, safety, cover safety, bullet, those guys.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Reminds me of Allen.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ohio State transfer Isaiah Pryor set for second Notre Dame visit <a href="https://t.co/bx9LQTWKt2">https://t.co/bx9LQTWKt2</a></p>— CollegeFootballTalk (@CFTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/CFTalk/status/1187730946226839552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[KizerWilhelm]

Visiting again with his mom for the Virginia Tech game https://collegefootballtalk.nbcspor...isaiah-pryor-set-for-second-notre-dame-visit/

 

[greyhammer90]

Nice.

 

[zelezo vlk]

With Pryor, I'm not so worried about the safety depth chart and rotation next year. CB though...