'17 FL OT Robert Hainsey (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[Sherm Sticky]

Can't flip those two. Despite his size Banks is not a tackle. Doesn't have the feet or athleticism needed to protect the edges. What he is is a mauler at RG.

I disagree. I think Banks is an ideal RT. And Kreamer is the next Nelson at guard.

I want a vote on if Banks is a RT or guard!


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[ND Fan Vancouver]

Hainsey making HUGE Phidarian Mathis his bitch. https://mobile.twitter.com/TJamesNDI/status/814147927266512896/video/1

 

[rtrn2glory]

Dude looked like a grown ass man on TV during practice highlights on ESPNu

 

[ResLife Hero]

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[BobbyMac]

SIAP. Current ESPN R&R's.

Hainsey's their #1 OG and #31 OA. A 4 star 2 spots behind Brock Wright.

 

[jspags10pg]

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[Greenore]

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Thanks for the link jspags. Seems like a great young man with foresight beyond his years.

 

[arrowryan]

Most are expecting Hainsey to play this season. Per ISD

Wow if true. Maybe they aren't that high on Bars? I can't see him replacing Mustipher already.

 

[dublinirish]

Most are expecting Hainsey to play this season. Per ISD

Wow if true. Maybe they aren't that high on Bars? I can't see him replacing Mustipher already.

II podcast said Hainsey will be competing for the RT spot

 

[Rack Em]

II podcast said Hainsey will be competing for the RT spot

LT - McGlinchy
LG - Nelson
C - Mustipher...I hardly know her!
RG - Bars
RT - Kramer/Eichenberg/Hainsey

Is that right?

 

[greyhammer90]

Most are expecting Hainsey to play this season. Per ISD

Wow if true. Maybe they aren't that high on Bars? I can't see him replacing Mustipher already.

II podcast said Hainsey will be competing for the RT spot

LT - McGlinchy
LG - Nelson
C - Mustipher...I hardly know her!
RG - Bars
RT - Kramer/Eichenberg/Hainsey

Is that right?

Not sure if this means Hainsey is all-world or if Kramer/Eichenberg are not performing at the expected level...

 

[arrowryan]

Not sure if this means Hainsey is all-world or if Kramer/Eichenberg are not performing at the expected level...

These are my thoughts as well. I have hard time believing Kramer wouldn't be a starter this season.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

Didn't the staff talk how good Kraemer was? So it might be that Hainsey is just as good

 

[zelezo vlk]

I think the talk of Hainsey being in the mix at RT is hollow. No way is he gonna beat out Kraemer and Eich unless those two are struggling with injuries. Heck, I'd rather Bars slide out and play tackle and let Tommy play RG than allow a true freshman (though EE) play

 

[Domina Nostra]

There are enough high-quality players on the line that we can assume that its a compliment to Hainsey. Plus, Kramer and Eichenberger haven't played yet either, so its a little premature to judge them!

On the other hand, I don't think there is as much of a gap between a really highly-rated freshman/sophomore, and a really well-trained, physically-developed 3-star as we like to pretend. The gap emerges later, and is sometimes less important in college football than it is projecting to the pros.

In other words, even if a kid is talented enough to play as a freshman, he's not going to look like an All-American (like a RB might), and he's going to make some big mistakes.

 

[BobbyMac]

Remember, not only is RH an EE but he essentially transferred in from an FCS program where he was the starting LT for two years. That's why I have always been so high on him. If he had been blessed with Josh Lugg's body, he's maybe the best guy in the class. He played at IMG at 6-4.5 - sub 280.

I smell a Nick Martin career. First an OT back up while working out at guard and then bam, starting OC in '19.

 

[dwshade]

Most are expecting Hainsey to play this season. Per ISD

Wow if true. Maybe they aren't that high on Bars? I can't see him replacing Mustipher already.

Bars is fine. Expecting Hainsey to play isn't surprising. More than 5 guys will be needed to play this year.

 

[dwshade]

I think the talk of Hainsey being in the mix at RT is hollow. No way is he gonna beat out Kraemer and Eich unless those two are struggling with injuries. Heck, I'd rather Bars slide out and play tackle and let Tommy play RG than allow a true freshman (though EE) play

I think at some point Kraemer will be a guard. Maybe not this year but his body screams guard.

 

[zelezo vlk]

I think at some point Kraemer will be a guard. Maybe not this year but his body screams guard.

I kinda always figured he was Q's successor

 

[arrowryan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly: Robert Hainsey not red shirting this year.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/900853192111652864">August 24, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelly says both Tommy Kraemer and Robert Hainsey will play at RT. I still expect Kraemer to start, but that's interesting.</p>— Mike Vorel (@mikevorel) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/900853486094614528">August 24, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The defense being vastly improved is obviously the biggest surprise in camp. To me, Hainsey getting legit PT as a true frosh is a close second.

 

[Domina Nostra]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly: Robert Hainsey not red shirting this year.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/900853192111652864">August 24, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelly says both Tommy Kraemer and Robert Hainsey will play at RT. I still expect Kraemer to start, but that's interesting.</p>— Mike Vorel (@mikevorel) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikevorel/status/900853486094614528">August 24, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The defense being vastly improved is obviously the biggest surprise in camp. To me, Hainsey getting legit PT as a true frosh is a close second.

And he's not even 290!

 

[dublinirish]

this says more to me that BK is not confident in TK (alot of onlooks to the scrimmage said TK was poor in pass pro - gave up 3 sacks)

 

[Wild Bill]

this says more to me that BK is not confident in TK (alot of onlooks to the scrimmage said TK was poor in pass pro - gave up 3 sacks)

Makes sense but why not cross train Liam at both left and right tackle?

 

[Irishman77]

Why the hell does Biven never get his chance?

 

[PANDFAN]

Makes sense but why not cross train Liam at both left and right tackle?

Because he was having difficulty as well.. So less stuff to have to mentally prepare yourself with. Different nuances with each side

 

[Luckylucci]

Why the hell does Biven never get his chance?

He has and he's not very good.

 

[dublinirish]

He has and he's not very good.

couldnt beat out a 270 lbs Colin McGovern last year..

 

[Domina Nostra]

Kramer's upside is huge, and its also a sign that we want to be a running team.

But Bars was injured and then lacked strength when he was recovering from his injury. His mediocre start was not indicative of his ceiling. I still think they should slide him outside again, now that he's back to 100%.

I'd go: McGlinchey--Nelson--Mustipher--Kraemer--Bars

 

[dublinirish]

bars is apparently looking great at RG though, would you move him to RT where he is so-so and have Kraemer at RG where he hasn't practised at. I think BK is gonna take his lumps with Kraemer and hope he gains confidence and experience.

 

[Old Man Mike]

In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with Kraemer at RT that helping him a little with a decent blocking RB won't cure. As season goes on, he'll get his first two steps figured out quicker. He is still a mountain man mean mauler.