'16 IL ATH Julian Love (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

[ozzman]

i thought JL came up lame holding his leg/hamstring when he exited?

He grabbed his towel but for some reason the commentators took that as coming up lame and kept bringing it up.

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[beryirish]

i thought JL came up lame holding his leg/hamstring when he exited?

If you watch that replay again i believe he hits helmets with one of his teammates. Kelly said in the post game presser JL had trouble with the memory aspect of the testing.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

If you watch that replay again i believe he hits helmets with one of his teammates. Kelly said in the post game presser JL had trouble with the memory aspect of the testing.

That's kind of scary.

 

[GowerND11]

That's kind of scary.

It is... Now I don't want to just throw baseless thought out here, but:

Could he have been so nervous he had a concussion, and so amped up wanting to go back into the game that he wasn't thinking straight?

 

[ndcoltsfan2010]

Colts have 2 second rounders🤗

I would take him!!!!

 

[IrishFaninTX]

Looking at some of the mock drafts, looks like there are 4 CB's in the first round and none are J Love. I'm not understanding that. He had the best stats of all CB's and was a Thorpe finalist which should mean he is one of the top 3. Is it because he projects better at safety or size or speed? And JT wasn't in the first round, either. I thought for sure ND would have 2 1st rounders but if the mocks are right, we won't have any.

 

[Irish#1]

Looking at some of the mock drafts, looks like there are 4 CB's in the first round and none are J Love. I'm not understanding that. He had the best stats of all CB's and was a Thorpe finalist which should mean he is one of the top 3. Is it because he projects better at safety or size or speed? And JT wasn't in the first round, either. I thought for sure ND would have 2 1st rounders but if the mocks are right, we won't have any.

I haven't looked at the other prospects, but my guess would be his height is keeping him out of the first round.

 

[NDIrish88]

Looking at some of the mock drafts, looks like there are 4 CB's in the first round and none are J Love. I'm not understanding that. He had the best stats of all CB's and was a Thorpe finalist which should mean he is one of the top 3. Is it because he projects better at safety or size or speed? And JT wasn't in the first round, either. I thought for sure ND would have 2 1st rounders but if the mocks are right, we won't have any.

Lets see how he does at the combine. The combine may help him.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Looking at some of the mock drafts, looks like there are 4 CB's in the first round and none are J Love. I'm not understanding that. He had the best stats of all CB's and was a Thorpe finalist which should mean he is one of the top 3. Is it because he projects better at safety or size or speed? And JT wasn't in the first round, either. I thought for sure ND would have 2 1st rounders but if the mocks are right, we won't have any.

He lacks the elite speed those others corners have. Hes more technician than athlete.

 

[ndfi78]

I saw a top 40 mock with 6 CB listed, none of them were Love. Kind of blew my mind.

 

[RDU Irish]

Let everyone play the meat market game and JLove can work toward that second contract. Hope the Bears or Colts get him.

 

[zelezo vlk]

I would love if the Bears somehow got him for nickel

 

[Irish#1]

I saw a top 40 mock with 6 CB listed, none of them were Love. Kind of blew my mind.

Wouldn't be surprised if this is similar to Everson Walls. Led the nation in INT's went undrafted and ended up All Pro three times.

Love leads the nation in breakups, gets drafted late and ends up Pro Bowl or All Pro.

 

[Southside Sully]

Wouldn't be surprised if this is similar to Everson Walls. Led the nation in INT's went undrafted and ended up All Pro three times.

Love leads the nation in breakups, gets drafted late and ends up Pro Bowl or All Pro.

There is no way Love is going to go undrafted.. I saw him today as #44 on list of Draft Prospects. Tillery 45

 

[NewBrunswickIrish]

There is no way Love is going to go undrafted.. I saw him today as #44 on list of Draft Prospects. Tillery 45

Assuming he doesn’t test horribly, I think his floor is the second day. I think we all believe that he’ll test mediocrely but if he keeps the 40 to the low 4.5s and posts average numbers in the agility tests then I can’t see anyway he drops past the third round.

 

[Irish#1]

There is no way Love is going to go undrafted.. I saw him today as #44 on list of Draft Prospects. Tillery 45

Pretty sure I didn't say he would go undrafted.

 

[Southside Sully]

Pretty sure I didn't say he would go undrafted.

Not arguing.. By your inference of "Wouldn't be surprised if this is similar to Everson Walls. Led the nation in INT's went undrafted " That would infer that Love will go undrafted if it is similar.. If Love is drafted, that would defeat the main sentiment of your post.

 

[stlnd01]

Saw him ranked as the 8th corner off the board by The Athletic’s draft guy the other day. I don’t know what teams need what, but that sounds like third round or so.

He may wind up being a better NFL corner than a lot of the guys ahead of him, but he doesn’t have the measurables the NFL draftniks drool over. But also if you’re Love I don’t know why you leave early to be a third-round draft pick.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Saw him ranked as the 8th corner off the board by The Athletic’s draft guy the other day. I don’t know what teams need what, but that sounds like third round or so.

He may wind up being a better NFL corner than a lot of the guys ahead of him, but he doesn’t have the measurables the NFL draftniks drool over. But also if you’re Love I don’t know why you leave early to be a third-round draft pick.

Probably because if we are all right in assuming it's measurables that are holding him back, how much can he really improve on things such as speed and agility with one more year @ ND? If his draft stock isn't going to increase that much whether he stays for a year or goes, he may as well take off now while he's young and healthy, and not risk getting hurt.

 

[Luckylucci]

Probably because if we are all right in assuming it's measurables that are holding him back, how much can he really improve on things such as speed and agility with one more year @ ND? If his draft stock isn't going to increase that much whether he stays for a year or goes, he may as well take off now while he's young and healthy, and not risk getting hurt.

This and it's precisely what Julian has said in interviews. He's played A LOT of football over the last 3 seasons and there is already a ton of film on him. He's not going to get dramatically faster, taller, longer etc. at this point, so why not go now.

 

[stlnd01]

This and it's precisely what Julian has said in interviews. He's played A LOT of football over the last 3 seasons and there is already a ton of film on him. He's not going to get dramatically faster, taller, longer etc. at this point, so why not go now.

Because he could come back, finish his degree, be a captain, lead Notre Dame to another playoff bid and still be a third-round pick (or better) next year.

Maybe I’m old-fashioned, but I do think that kind of stuff means something. (I also think a lot of these guys get lousy advice and that, for many players, the NFL winds up being a sort of fool’s gold.)

I don’t mean as a knock on Love, who seems like a great young man. And obviously every player makes these decisions for their own reasons. But we’re getting to the point where it feels like so many, too many, view college football mainly as a stepping stone to the NFL, to be left behind as soon as they think they can get drafted. I think it should be more than that, especially at a place like Notre Dame.

But I realize I’m mostly whistling into the wind on this topic.

 

[Luckylucci]

Because he could come back, finish his degree, be a captain, lead Notre Dame to another playoff bid and still be a third-round pick (or better) next year.
Maybe I’m old-fashioned, but I do think that kind of stuff means something. (I also think a lot of these guys get lousy advice and that, for many players, the NFL winds up being a sort of fool’s gold.)

I don’t mean as a knock on Love, who seems like a great young man. And obviously every player makes these decisions for their own reasons. But we’re getting to the point where it feels like so many, too many, view college football mainly as a stepping stone to the NFL, to be left behind as soon as they think they can get drafted. I think it should be more than that, especially at a place like Notre Dame.

But I realize I’m mostly whistling into the wind on this topic.

Exactly, so add another 800+ snaps to his career and end up with the same grade. This is a 5'11 193 lb CB who has already played over 2,200 snaps of college football.

I feel extremely confident saying that Love didn't go into his enrollment at ND (as the 46th best CB prospect nationally) thinking this way. He gave tremendous effort over a short period of time and can always complete his degree. It's time to live his dream.

I get having issues with some of these early departures but in Love's case I can't see how anyone can fault him.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Once teams start to really dig in reviewing Love's tape and if he runs a 4.55 or less 40 at the combine I don't see how he doesn't get selected in the 1st round.

 

[stlnd01]

Exactly, so add another 800+ snaps to his career and end up with the same grade. This is a 5'11 193 lb CB who has already played over 2,200 snaps of college football.

I feel extremely confident saying that Love didn't go into his enrollment at ND (as the 46th best CB prospect nationally) thinking this way. He gave tremendous effort over a short period of time and can always complete his degree. It's time to live his dream.

I get having issues with some of these early departures but in Love's case I can't see how anyone can fault him.

Again, I'm not really faulting Love here. Agree he's not likely to improve really his draft stock by playing another year at Notre Dame (Unless there are fewer elite corners next year, I dunno about that). And you only get so many snaps in your career. You want to get paid for them while you can. I get it.

I'm more lamenting a system where it seems, more and more, like the expectation for almost any draftable player - certainly anyone with a legit shot at the first three rounds - is that they go early. Not so long ago, leaving early, especially as a junior, was the exception for a guy who was probably a first round pick. Now it seems like the exception is the potential first or second day pick who stays.

And so this year we have 135 guys leaving early. They can't possibly all be high-round draft picks. Some won't even get drafted. 103 of them are juniors, who don't have their degrees (I know they all say they'll go back and finish. Few actually do.) And a whole lot of people who would have been among the best players in college football next year are in the NFL instead. I don't know how that's good for college football.

 

[Irish#1]

Wouldn't be surprised if this is similar to Everson Walls. Led the nation in INT's went undrafted and ended up All Pro three times.

Love leads the nation in breakups, gets drafted late and ends up Pro Bowl or All Pro.

Not arguing.. By your inference of "Wouldn't be surprised if this is similar to Everson Walls. Led the nation in INT's went undrafted " That would infer that Love will go undrafted if it is similar. If Love is drafted, that would defeat the main sentiment of your post.

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[beryirish]

This and it's precisely what Julian has said in interviews. He's played A LOT of football over the last 3 seasons and there is already a ton of film on him. He's not going to get dramatically faster, taller, longer etc. at this point, so why not go now.

The fans, dammit! The FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Southside Sully]

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Again, your main point was that the comparison you are making is to an undrafted person who was a Pro Bowler. If you thought he was going to get drafted, you would have then compared him to someone that was drafted at some point in the draft.

 

[BobbyMac]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> CB <a href="https://twitter.com/julianlove27?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@julianlove27</a> won the hands competition today at the State Farm All-Star Football Challenge at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas. <a href="https://t.co/wfRqm9QSDg">pic.twitter.com/wfRqm9QSDg</a></p>— Eric Hansen (@EHansenNDI) <a href="https://twitter.com/EHansenNDI/status/1090036394293108736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Irish YJ]

just watched this on ESPNU.
maybe Julian should have been a WR lol

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> CB <a href="https://twitter.com/julianlove27?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@julianlove27</a> won the hands competition today at the State Farm All-Star Football Challenge at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas. <a href="https://t.co/wfRqm9QSDg">pic.twitter.com/wfRqm9QSDg</a></p>— Eric Hansen (@EHansenNDI) <a href="https://twitter.com/EHansenNDI/status/1090036394293108736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a> key measurements thread…<br><br>301. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NotreDame</a> CB Julian Love<br>Height: 5-10 6/8<br>Weight: 195<br>Hand: 9<br>Arm: 31 6/8<br>Wingspan: 75 3/8</p>— Charles Robinson (@CharlesRobinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/1101845071383707648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote>
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