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Pretty sure next year is his 5th year.
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Pretty sure next year is his 5th year.
CBS sports, right now, has Julian ranked as the 28th best player overall. However they do not have him in the first round of their current mocks. If he comes back that would be insane. If he leaves I think Houston Griffith should take over. He is too talented to leave him off the field.
Didn't know if he was eligible for a 5th or not.
Draftscout.com has Julian between a 4.40-4.59 which is a ridiculously wide gap. In high school he claimed a 4.53. Hopefully with some speed training in the body by Balis program he was able to get close to 4.50. If he breaks 4.50 then I think he’s a First Round Pick. There are enough good corners in college football who can run under 4.50 that also have maybe some height and length as well so he needs to improve in the speed category to compete with the 4.45 6’2” guys.
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Houston isn’t being left off the field, he’s playing Nickel. And right now a majority of his reps are at S, not C.B. So, if/when Love leaves it doesn’t look like Griffith will be the one replacing him.
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Hmm, if Griffith plays Safety, with Wilkins switching over the WR, that leaves the corner depth chart a bit thin, no?
Senior: Love, Pride, Vaughn
Sophomore: DJ Brown, Noah Boykin, Tariq Bracy
Freshman: KJ Wallace, Cam Hart? Abdur-Raman?
Take out Love next year and I'm not very confident, because I'm not sure how ready the Sophomores will be ready to contribute. Make no mistake, Love is a big priority 6 Star returner.
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I don't think he has to break 4.50 to be a 1st rounder. His ball skills and tight coverage will be highly sought as long as he can keep it under 4.55. He doesn't have ideal length but he's T-3rd nationally in passes defended. Last year he was #2 behind Josh Jackson.
All he has to do is keep up his current production and he'll be a hot commodity. Good news is we're finally producing top shelf secondary talent. Bad news is that if he maintains his play, there is no way he comes back next year.
Donte Vaughn and Tarik Bracy will be competent replacements; the coaches have been impressed by Bracy. Boykin has the physical stature to be an absolute freak, so lets hope this RS season will be beneficial for him; same goes for Brown. I think we'll be just fine once Love leaves.
I'm hoping we get Rutherford because a Wallace/Rutherford will be awesome and would be very complimentary of the 2018 CB class. Also, thats a lot of size between the two.
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Agreed - getting Love back for another year would be nice but the secondary should be fine with or without him. LBer is a bigger question mark. If Bilal comes back, is it Bilal - Bauer - Genmark, or does Simon compete with Genmark for a starting spot at Buck?
I disagree here. I think LB is in better shape than CB (still like where the CB group is at though). Bauer is looking like a guaranteed multi year starter, Genmark-Heath is looking like a strong candidate to be starting next year, and Bilal has been the pleasant surprise so far this year and has been pretty strong at Rover. We haven't even mentioned Simon, Lamb, Ovie, or Ekwonu. Simon could very well beat out JGH or Bilal next year (probably JGH though because Simon is getting a little big for Rover) and Lamb will be a totally different player next year after having a year in a college weight room.
The whole defense in general has a very bright future at all 3 levels. This is what happens when you have a DC that not only likes to recruit, but is good at it as well.
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I like the depth and potential at linebacker but that's basically all it is right now. The secondary should return three starters, including Gilman who is looking like an elite college safety. Like you said earlier, Vaughn and Bracy should be solid replacements for the one starter ND may lose, and Vaughn has quite a bit of experience.
The defense relies so heavily on Coney and Tranquill, it's hard to believe that their replacements are capable of playing at a high level right now. I could be wrong. Maybe Coney and Tranquill are that good, and it's almost a certainty that the backups will get better by next year. Still, at best, we have a good returning starter in Bilal and three young and inexperienced players who should get a lot of playing time. Not bad but I'd give an advantage to the secondary mainly due to Gilman and more experience.
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JMO, but I don't think Love leaves. He grew up a huge ND fan and I'd bet he wants to see this through.
Of the 3 groups (DB, LB, DL) LB is certainly the weak position group heading into next year. It will return the least amount of production and starts and it's not close. A lot of talent, but all positions have that. Proven production and starts is how we'd measure it at this moment, and it's LB.
Of the 3 groups (DB, LB, DL) LB is certainly the weak position group heading into next year. It will return the least amount of production and starts and it's not close. A lot of talent, but all positions have that. Proven production and starts is how we'd measure it at this moment, and it's LB.
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Honestly, Julian might be my favorite player on this squad, and that’s saying alot, because this squad is deep with talent. Julian does what he does with confidence and shows up with his actions time and again. I’m thankful he’s on our team.
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Agree, but I'd expand to say the front seven. The entire middle of our D is gone.
Losing JT and Bonner scares me almost as much as losing Drue and Coney.
As far as LBs are concerned, what do you predict the starting line up to look like? Simon talking over at Rover? Bauer emerging? Bilal moving inside, or just getting passed at Rover? JGH stepping up?
DT/NT worries me big time too. J Ade gives me hope, but the rest do not. Do we see newcomers (Lacey/Spears) making an unusual frosh push to compete? Lacey is the second highest rated DT (second to J Ade) we picked up in 5+ years. i hate even thinking about a true frosh playing at DT, but not sure what to think.
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Are you forgetting MTA or is he expected to regress due to the injury?
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He also comes across as very humble which is a big achievement in its self considering his level of success.
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I'm worried about the injury yes, but IMO, I don't see him as a high ceiling guy. Wasn't he already in a heated battle with Hinish for 2?
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I've read several articles that would suggest he's both. And I've just checked Rivals, NDInsider, Ourlads, OneFootDown, etc. all have him behind Hinish, and one has him as back ups for both DT and NT.
Not an expert, just what I've read/seen.
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Alright let me put it another way, MTA was the #2 3 Technique behind Jerry Tillery, the job was his next year before this injury. If he comes back healthy, it's his, with Jayson Ade as the backup.
If MTA can be good then I am not as worried, but he has had injury issues in the past. The interior DL, if healthy, I think will be deep. I just worry about the health of the interior linemen, specifically at nose. If Ademiola can play a little nose then ND may be ok depth wise. Staff should be prepared to play two 3 techs in some cases.
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That's fair, but I also read pre-season, pre-injury, that JAde might make it tough to keep him out of the two deep this year at 3T, and that would make MTA "flexible". It was a "way early" type of article. But I also think saying that MTA would be an auto starter over JAde in 2019 is early as well. As we saw with the flip of Bonner and JT, I think the coaches are going to be fluid as possible going forward between the 2 positions.
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I'll worry about next year, after this year. (or if the wheels fall off this year). In the meantime, I'm enjoying watching a number of NFL prospects play on our defense.
Coney, Tillery and Love are guaranteed to be drafted. Tranquil could put himself into consideration as a day 2 pick.
How is Bars viewed? And I wonder if Dex can get traction if he explodes on the scene?
Coney, Tillery and Love are guaranteed to be drafted. Tranquil could put himself into consideration as a day 2 pick.
How is Bars viewed? And I wonder if Dex can get traction if he explodes on the scene?
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IIRC he is projected to be an early to mid round guy, top 10 guard.
Found a couple links: WalterFootball.com: 2019 NFL Draft: Guards Rankings (no. 8)
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/offensive-guards/
CBS has Coney No. 15 overall (1st ILB), Love No. 28 (#3 CB), Tillery No. 30 (#5 DT), Bars No. 96 (#12 OT????) He would be the 6th G taken at that spot.
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Exactly. This is a loaded team so we should appreciate what we have. Hopefully we can do big things by curb stomping Stanford tomorrow night.
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Well, it looks like the big dogs of the sports world are starting to respect J Love. CBS has him going #19 to Pittsburgh. My opinion on him hasn't really changed; his technique and "stickiness" is second to none, but I think he still needs to run well. If he can run well, he's probably the second best corner (Deandre Baker is a dog) in the 2019 draft.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft...tin-herbert-niners-take-big-receiver-at-no-2/
Here is their short write up on him:
All in all, I think Notre Dame has 3 legit shots at getting defensive players drafted this coming draft in Coney, Tillery, and Love. I have seen Coney go in the late first in some mocks. Same goes with Tillery; his Stanford tape will be used a lot when teams look at him. If my memory serves me right, I don't think Notre Dame has had a defensive player drafted in the first round since Harrison Smith; Jaylon obviously would've changed that but we can thank Taylor Decker.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft...tin-herbert-niners-take-big-receiver-at-no-2/
Here is their short write up on him:
All in all, I think Notre Dame has 3 legit shots at getting defensive players drafted this coming draft in Coney, Tillery, and Love. I have seen Coney go in the late first in some mocks. Same goes with Tillery; his Stanford tape will be used a lot when teams look at him. If my memory serves me right, I don't think Notre Dame has had a defensive player drafted in the first round since Harrison Smith; Jaylon obviously would've changed that but we can thank Taylor Decker.
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