'16 FL WR Kevin Stepherson (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[Henges24]

Not sure how to interpret the request for a continuance. Could be good or bad.

He's fine. He'll be there for the Blue & Gold game. I'm assuming he has crossed his T's and dotted his I's since he has stayed out of trouble for what we know at least.

 

[woolybug25]

He's fine. He'll be there for the Blue & Gold game. I'm assuming he has crossed his T's and dotted his I's since he has stayed out of trouble for what we know at least.

If that's the case, then why the continuance? Why wouldn't he just accept the plea deal as originally arranged? It just seems fishy to me to, especially with him seemingly being in the dog house most of the spring. I hope you're right though.

 

[Meatloaf]

My interpretation is he was rumored to be in the doghouse because he hadn't met all the terms of his probation, hence why his lawyer also asked for a continuance. I assume that it's ultimately a good thing as it allows him to make sure he's got his shit together. I don't think Kelly would be playing him in the spring game if he weren't confident in his return, either.

 

[IrishLion]

No info, but I bet the extension allows him to complete required community service. It's the only thing that would make sense as to requesting more time and prolonging the process.

That, or a final drug test is needed, and a few weeks might help in that regard *for whatever reason*

 

[woolybug25]

No info, but I bet the extension allows him to complete required community service. It's the only thing that would make sense as to requesting more time and prolonging the process.

That, or a final drug test is needed, and a few weeks might help in that regard *for whatever reason*

 

[Domina Nostra]

No info, but I bet the extension allows him to complete required community service. It's the only thing that would make sense as to requesting more time and prolonging the process.

That, or a final drug test is needed, and a few weeks might help in that regard *for whatever reason*

These are good guesses.

 

[Irish Insanity]

These are good guesses.

But still.......Just guesses.

 

[NDdomer2]

No info, but I bet the extension allows him to complete required community service. It's the only thing that would make sense as to requesting more time and prolonging the process.

That, or a final drug test is needed, and a few weeks might help in that regard *for whatever reason*

I mean it is a holiday! gives him a few weeks after to make sure hes good to go.

 

[dublinirish]

its possible he could not complete 100% his community service hours due to school and football commitments?

 

[Henges24]

its possible he could not complete 100% his community service hours due to school and football commitments?

Actually a really good point.

 

[Irish#1]

its possible he could not complete 100% his community service hours due to school and football commitments?

Except a judge wouldn't look at football as a priority over community service.

 

[Irish8248]

Happens very frequently... I just delayed a sentencing so my client could do a community service project which would look favorably to the Court during sentencing.

 

[dublinirish]

Except a judge wouldn't look at football as a priority over community service.

he needs football attendance to stay eligible to stay at ND. It directly effects his education and potential quality of life down the road. i think they'd consider it

 

[Free Manera]

Defense counsel may have agreed to the continuance request in which case the judge probably would not deny it anyway. Continuances are common and this isn't a big deal. It could have even been Stepherson's attorney that needed the continuance and it would still be worded as defendant's continuance request.

 

[woolybug25]

His sentencing is today.

 

[BobbyMac]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stepherson sentenced to one year probation for possession of marijuana <a href="https://t.co/oqplxOoyMk">https://t.co/oqplxOoyMk</a> <a href="https://t.co/FzI7QED2i0">pic.twitter.com/FzI7QED2i0</a></p>— WNDU (@WNDU) <a href="https://twitter.com/WNDU/status/877980717824823297">June 22, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Domina Nostra]

I'm not a fan of legalizing marijuana, but the system we have now stinks. No problem in lots of place, jail-able offense in others. Something's gotta give.

 

[BobbyMac]

I'm not a fan of legalizing marijuana, but the system we have now stinks. No problem in lots of place, jail-able offense in others. Something's gotta give.

I'm with you on weed... and as soon as we make alcohol illegal agian and jail all the CEO's of Big Pharma that flood our streets with America's #2 drug problem behind alcohol, we'll be able to make America great again.

All the italics!

 

[zelezo vlk]

I'm with you on weed... and as soon as we make alcohol illegal agian and jail all the CEO's of Big Pharma that flood our streets with America's #2 drug problem behind alcohol, we'll be able to make America great again.

All the italics!

Criminalize beer and wine? I'm joining the resistance

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[NDTH91]

So what does this mean for him from a football perspective? Is he clear from an NCAA standpoint? From a University standpoint possession of weed is usually suspension (at least)... did all that get handed down last year?

Interested to hear where others think he stands as of now.

 

[johnnycando]

I hope the kid gets to play for ND.

 

[Irish2155]

It is just weed. Was he flipping big quantity or something, if so that is a different story? Or just smoking like the majority of college students?

The a vast majority of CFB players smoke, just doesn't get caught...the dumb ones get caught, Kevin.

 

[woolybug25]

I'm with you on weed... and as soon as we make alcohol illegal agian and jail all the CEO's of Big Pharma that flood our streets with America's #2 drug problem behind alcohol, we'll be able to make America great again.

All the italics!

Heck, Pharmaceutical might be our #1 problem at this point.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

Heck, Pharmaceutical might be our #1 problem at this point.

I'm 27 and from suburban Long Island. There are 5 people I knew well from high school that have OD'd on heroin, and I wasn't even in a major druggie crowd growing up. It's a nightmare.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I'm going to play devil's advocate. I agree that there is a lot of indication that we do, in fact, have pharmaceutical and alcohol epidemics already. But we are stuck with pharmaceuticals and alcohol.

- You can further regulate pharmaceuticals, but you ultimately need them for medicine, so they are going to be around.

- Alcohol is linked to a ton of crime, but its such an ingrained part of our culture, that it would be extremely difficult and probably counter-productive to try to make it illegal.

So accepting for argument's sake that "Pot is less harmful than either"--which is probably true from a certain angle, but is often argued too forcefully without really weighing the whole story--why should we legalize it?

We have proven that we can't deal with the drugs we have, and that they cause a lot of BIG issues.

The libertarian argument seems hollow. I agree that generally people should be able to make decisions for themselves and live with the consequences in their own lives. But the fact is the consequences flow very directly to spouses, children, and communities. Drug abuse is not victimless at all.

The strongest argument to me is that it would eliminate organized crime on some level, which may be true, but that is a VERY different argument than arguing that it is harmless. Its basically deciding which harms are more desirable.

So as for me, I think we need a more careful approach that doesn't just take the libertarian, or hedonist, or big-business "pot is fine" argument at face value-- and create a new problem on top of the others we are already struggling with.

 

[BobbyMac]

I'm going to play devil's advocate. I agree that there is a lot of indication that we do, in fact, have pharmaceutical and alcohol epidemics already. But we are stuck with pharmaceuticals and alcohol.

- You can further regulate pharmaceuticals, but you ultimately need them for medicine, so they are going to be around.

- Alcohol is linked to a ton of crime, but its such an ingrained part of our culture, that it would be extremely difficult and probably counter-productive to try to make it illegal.

So accepting for argument's sake that "Pot is less harmful than either"--which is probably true from a certain angle, but is often argued too forcefully without really weighing the whole story--why should we legalize it?

We have proven that we can't deal with the drugs we have, and that they cause a lot of BIG issues.

The libertarian argument seems hollow. I agree that generally people should be able to make decisions for themselves and live with the consequences in their own lives. But the fact is the consequences flow very directly to spouses, children, and communities. Drug abuse is not victimless at all.

The strongest argument to me is that it would eliminate organized crime on some level, which may be true, but that is a VERY different argument than arguing that it is harmless. Its basically deciding which harms are more desirable.

So as for me, I think we need a more careful approach that doesn't just take the libertarian, or hedonist, or big-business "pot is fine" argument at face value-- and create a new problem on top of the others we are already struggling with.

If the libertarian argument seems hollow then use the American argument that the founding fathers would have used. There are over 1 million people rotting in jails/prisons right now because of weed. Their freedom & rights stripped because people with your view think we just can't handle any more legal drugs. I don't mess with weed personally but how the local, state and the federal government over criminalizes the least harmful drug that the majority of Americans feel should be legal to incarcerate other Americans so they feed the system with fines, court costs, prison beds and civil forfeitures is well, un-American in spirit but SO American in practice.

 

[Domina Nostra]

My point was that it's not all or nothing, and I also agree that jail is appropriate in many cases.

But it's a complicated issue and we shouldn't just pick a team.

 

[RDU Irish]

If the libertarian argument seems hollow then use the American argument that the founding fathers would have used. There are over 1 million people rotting in jails/prisons right now because of weed. Their freedom & rights stripped because people with your view think we just can't handle any more legal drugs. I don't mess with weed personally but how the local, state and the federal government over criminalizes the least harmful drug that the majority of Americans feel should be legal to incarcerate other Americans so they feed the system with fines, court costs, prison beds and civil forfeitures is well, un-American in spirit but SO American in practice.

This x1000 - I really enjoy that rich people go to rehab for using prescription drugs and poor people go to jail. Or rich people get a good lawyer and sing a community service song and poor people go to jail. I don't want to pay for stoners to be incarcerated or see them forced to a second class life because their criminal record keeps them from getting a decent job or career. It is economically retarded policy that compounds the "problem" instead of helping it.

 

[Irish#1]

Heck, Pharmaceutical might be our #1 problem at this point.

You might be right. Not wanting to derail this thread, but this is pretty story.

Noblesville drug company routinely distributed drugs twice as strong as labeled

 

[GBdomer]

Just wanted to share something on ISD

But some around the program have said Stepherson COULD be the best player on the team



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