'13 PA ATH Alex Anzalone (Florida Early Enrollee)

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In my opinion, it's all about the player holding the perspective. As a coach, you can't win over every player, nor seek popularity. Respect is more important than likability, and some personalities simply don't mesh. That's human nature. It doesn't necessarily make Diaco a poor coach, because a recruit and some players didn't like him.

I didn't care for Anzalone's personality/demeanor in interviews, but I'm sure he's a great kid.
 
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Like you Bogs, didn't worship the guy, but didn't dislike him either. I have heard a lot of smoke about a lot of his own guys not liking him. Nothing specific, just that several thought he was an ass. Me personally, I haven't heard that Anzalone is a pain, or cancer, etc.. In all honesty I stopped following the thread after he left and didn't participate in the bashing or hear any of the rumors. From the little I know, and from what I continue to hear though, is Diaco was an arrogant SOB who was a dick to his own guys, and turned some recruits off. Above, you were pretty strong about AA. Care to expand why you feel that way. PM me if you want to keep the detail on the low. Thanks buddy!

I was referring to the Freddy Kruger-gate with my reference to Diaco lying. The repercussions after he got caught may still be reverberating in a microphone somewhere! Bob was livid about the whole thing, for a short while there was no video from the locker rooms, until there was a lot of backlash. And then the simple evidence is that Bob never appeared on ND video again, other than two managed PC's. So that is Bob Diaco.

I don't know anything personal about AA, except someone from his neck of the woods in PA stated to me and a friend that AA wasn't all that; but he certainly thought he was. That and his dad. Whether his dad wanted him to go to ND or FL, it doesn't matter. He was a helicopter dad. He needed to get out of the effin' process. I have a son that was a low D1 to a D3 candidate. He made his whole college decision by himself. He made a better decision for himself than I could have. And the best part about it is he worked through the options, and only has a few regrets, and no one to resent for controlling him!

Every time, Hayes, Anzalone, Lynch, etc. Parents get involved in that way and it turns to shit! Every time. Louis Nix didn't have a parent running him. Manti had strong parents and even stronger cultural norms that extended his parents authority, but he stood on his own two feet. No problem with Cam McDaniel or Greg Bryant for that matter, and these kids all faced as big of challenges as any of the helicopter kids.

It wasn't anything big about Alex. Like a typical narcissistic product of the helicopter method, he was a blowhard. Long on the mouth, not so long on the action. No one will ever accuse him of having a big heart. Or of saying kind things behind others backs!

Now it is pretty clear that Anzalone tried to blame him not showing up at ND on Kelly's absence. This has been discussed and shown to be a bull shit excuse used by him to justify his own untoward behavior, backing out of his agreement; he gave his word. And this is what someone with that mental affect will do. His statement really riled a whole bunch of folks, before they found the lie in it. With that happening when he wasn't even part of the program, can you imagine what he would do as "a bad apple in the barrel?"
 
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He was all over the field making plays for the Florida, very impressed with him. CeCe Jefferson also played pretty good.
 

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Always wondered if BK's flirtation with the NFL cost us any recruits. Sounds like the handling of it did.
 

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Not surprisingly, much of what "the word on the street" was probably wrong with Anzalone and his Dad. Of course the Anzalones could be telling lies now, but given what happened with the stories being told about Chris Brown's Dad and Chris's wavering commitment, I'm a lot more likely to believe this article. Interesting read.

Reintroducing five-star Alex Anzalone, Florida's tenacious defensive supernova - CBSSports.com

Nah, that article is bullshit. Not necessarily the anecdotes and such but the idea that his dad didn't have an active role in pushing him to Florida is a full Pinocchio. There is a timeline and facts that contradict what the general point of the article vis a vis ND, and how is it no other recruits had this alleged problem? Yeah, Kelly was out of the country but coaches adequately explained it to every other recruit but Anzalone decommited INSTANTLY because that had been the plan for awhile and he was just waiting for correct moment.
 

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Nah, that article is bullshit. Not necessarily the anecdotes and such but the idea that his dad didn't have an active role in pushing him to Florida is a full Pinocchio. There is a timeline and facts that contradict what the general point of the article vis a vis ND, and how is it no other recruits had this alleged problem? Yeah, Kelly was out of the country but coaches adequately explained it to every other recruit but Anzalone decommited INSTANTLY because that had been the plan for awhile and he was just waiting for correct moment.

this is how I remember that whole moment going down as well, the whole thing with BK talking to the Eagles was just an easy out for them (Alex and his Pops).
 

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Not surprisingly, much of what "the word on the street" was probably wrong with Anzalone and his Dad. Of course the Anzalones could be telling lies now, but given what happened with the stories being told about Chris Brown's Dad and Chris's wavering commitment, I'm a lot more likely to believe this article. Interesting read.

Reintroducing five-star Alex Anzalone, Florida's tenacious defensive supernova - CBSSports.com

timing of this article is impeccable...SMH

I really don't care that an 18 y/o changed his mind. Happens. No one should get ass hurt when they do...I was disappointed, but hey, you hope your coaches can coach up the kids that want to be here. See Michigan Sate...

From the staff's side of this...Yea it is dumb that it is even possibly credible that Anzalone was left hanging...

Might have been nice to have he and smith on the field...but then again, it would be another future NFL name on that field w/o requisite results...as well, given his injury history, would Alex Anzalone have moved the needle at ND...If I had to choose, I'd say probably not.

Moving on...
 

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My buddy who is a big Gators fan loves this kid. Says he's a beast this year.
 

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this is how I remember that whole moment going down as well, the whole thing with BK talking to the Eagles was just an easy out for them (Alex and his Pops).

Anzalone announced his decommit "instantly" on Jan 10th because if Florida was going to be an option, he had to do it immediately. Class had already been in session for Florida for what would've been 4 days and the following day was the last day to add/drop classes.

I have no clue if Dad was pushing for Florida, but the fact that he "instantly" decommited is not a good indicator in this case because of the deadlines he was facing at Florida.

As far as nobody else decommiting, there were only 5 EE's that were impacted and those kids may have been either more committed to the school than the coach, or their backup school had an academic calendar that allowed them to ride out the coaching uncertainty.
 

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Anzalone announced his decommit "instantly" on Jan 10th because if Florida was going to be an option, he had to do it immediately. Class had already been in session for Florida for what would've been 4 days and the following day was the last day to add/drop classes.

I have no clue if Dad was pushing for Florida, but the fact that he "instantly" decommited is not a good indicator in this case because of the deadlines he was facing at Florida.

As far as nobody else decommiting, there were only 5 EE's that were impacted and those kids may have been either more committed to the school than the coach, or their backup school had an academic calendar that allowed them to ride out the coaching uncertainty.

You're missing the point. His dad made a trip down to Florida and enrolled him before he ever decommited from ND. That doesn't mean he had to show up, but it was in the works WAY before Kelly started flirting with anybody. Then he got an excuse (at the time an unconfirmed rumor) and took it. The idea that his dad didn't push Florida over ND is a hilarious lie (though he might be telling the truth about favoring Stanford, I have no idea), as is the idea that he only looked at Florida because of BK's interview.
 

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You're missing the point. His dad made a trip down to Florida and enrolled him before he ever decommited from ND. That doesn't mean he had to show up, but it was in the works WAY before Kelly started flirting with anybody. Then he got an excuse (at the time an unconfirmed rumor) and took it. The idea that his dad didn't push Florida over ND is a hilarious lie (though he might be telling the truth about favoring Stanford, I have no idea), as is the idea that he only looked at Florida because of BK's interview.

If so, the truth will come out some day, because that paper trail exists...and last I checked the Clintons don't have anything to do with UofF.
 

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Probably best he didn't come to ND. The bench behind Joe Schmidt has been pretty crowded.

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Shiiiit, it's Alex's decommitment that prompted Joe to start in the first place! We have our skapegoat.
 

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I just remember that you could tell his commitment never was real solid.
 
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Nah, that article is bullshit. Not necessarily the anecdotes and such but the idea that his dad didn't have an active role in pushing him to Florida is a full Pinocchio. There is a timeline and facts that contradict what the general point of the article vis a vis ND, and how is it no other recruits had this alleged problem? Yeah, Kelly was out of the country but coaches adequately explained it to every other recruit but Anzalone decommited INSTANTLY because that had been the plan for awhile and he was just waiting for correct moment.

You're missing the point. His dad made a trip down to Florida and enrolled him before he ever decommited from ND. That doesn't mean he had to show up, but it was in the works WAY before Kelly started flirting with anybody. Then he got an excuse (at the time an unconfirmed rumor) and took it. The idea that his dad didn't push Florida over ND is a hilarious lie (though he might be telling the truth about favoring Stanford, I have no idea), as is the idea that he only looked at Florida because of BK's interview.

I agree with everything you have said. You have the facts straight.

But my interpretation is a little different, and I think there are other facts that have been kept quiet.

The first part of Alex not attending ND started as an incredible friction between Alex, Sal, and Bob Diaco. There were open comments made that were absolutely inappropriate, that were heard in some cases by 'outsiders.'

So, that knocked Anzalones' recruitment a bit off kilter. Remember that they were already snake bit by the shit-show that was the Buckeye recruitment.

They probably already knew that Diaco was short for South Bend, because that apparently was known as early as a year before he left. And before we blow it off Alex is having quite a year; who knows how things would have been in a different program? Change a few variables, maybe he didn't have three years of injuries? The next kid in line has even more talent. Let's see how that plays out.

So his dad made arrangements as a backup, knowing that the important thing was that he started school at the beginning of the term. Period.

The reason I believe there is something to this is that both Diaco (within his little fiefdom), and Kelly tend to be autocratic. Kelly has been criticized throughout his career for busting down morale with his micromanagement.

I only comment because I have a feeling that the same thing is repeating it self this cycle with a linebacker. The Kelly staff has a blind-spot for recruits and their families that want a little more information, and are discriminating in their reception of what they are told.

Whether we agree or argue, it will continue to show up as a pattern with these few recruits until it is addressed.
 
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For the longest time I thought the players loved Diaco. I remember Te'o specifically singling out how much he loved playing for him. I always thought that it was weird that he would always mention Diaco and not Kelly, though I understand the bond would be much closer for defensive player and the DC that also coaches the LB's. So anyway, I really thought that the players loved him. Since he left, all I keep seeing is how the players thought he was a jerk and how we lost out on AA. As far as I'm concerned, I appreciate his time here, but I am looking forward to watching a more fun and aggressive defense with an intense guy like BVG leading the way. Personally, I think we are better off and the mustache hair combo of Van Gorder tops Diaco's greased up look anyhow... Lol

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Anzalone announced his decommit "instantly" on Jan 10th because if Florida was going to be an option, he had to do it immediately. Class had already been in session for Florida for what would've been 4 days and the following day was the last day to add/drop classes.

I have no clue if Dad was pushing for Florida, but the fact that he "instantly" decommited is not a good indicator in this case because of the deadlines he was facing at Florida.

As far as nobody else decommiting, there were only 5 EE's that were impacted and those kids may have been either more committed to the school than the coach, or their backup school had an academic calendar that allowed them to ride out the coaching uncertainty.

Anzalone and family is from the same area I am. I know a few guys involved with his high school. I can confirm that Dad (UF alum) DEFINITELY pushed ND, the fam was always and will always love UF, and a few years ago the Dad (doctor) moved the whole family down to Gainesville.
 

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Declared for the draft, despite playing 6 games this year and only 2 games the year before. Prob should have come back to prove his health and improve his draft stock.
 

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Good luck to Analzone in the NFL. Hopefully he pans out so he doesn't have to put that Florida degree to use...
 
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