'09 HI LB Manti Te'o (Notre Dame Man)

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I deleted the game from my DVR, but a buddy of mine said they basically dedicated a guard to pulling and blocking Teo during the Alabama game whereas they ran to Jarvis Jones' side when they played Georgia. Anyone remember/noticed the same thing?
 

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anyone read john claytons article on manti's combine presser?

what ****ing piece of **** that guy is.

this from the guy who couldnt get a fake or real girlfriend.

lost a LOT of respect for Clayton with that one.

THIS.

I know I wear homer glasses in this situation, but I watched the media session and didn't see what he did.
 

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Teo - NFL - Don Banks - SI.com
Don Banks SI 2/24/13

Composed and honest, Te'o impresses in combine press conference


He's had way more than his 15 minutes of infamy since, as he so delicately put it, "January 16th happened,'' but Manti Te'o used his 15-minute session with the NFL media wisely Saturday afternoon at Lucas Oil Stadium.
The Notre Dame linebacker may have come across as hopelessly naive and embarrassingly gullible throughout the bizarre saga of his fake, dead girlfriend, but Te'o showed me that he has a solid, realistic grasp of his situation now, and knows what needs to be done to mitigate the scandal's impact on his nascent NFL career.
Meeting with an overflow crowd of media members at the NFL Scouting Combine -- the likes of which maybe only Tim Tebow, Cam Newton and Maurice Clarett have seen -- Te'o was open enough, repentant enough and mature enough to start changing the narrative of a story that really has no precedent when it comes to a prospective NFL player.
Te'o said a lot of what needed to be said, and he said it with a sense of poise, humility and directness. When I asked him if he understands why NFL teams here are eager to get to the bottom of the melodrama and how he became embroiled in it, he didn't flinch. He gets it that deception can be a deal-breaker.
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I wasn't.

Kind of the Braveheart effect. My friend Patrick who couldn't say his name is between 6'2 and 6'3" and was noticibly taller than Manti. Manti is noticibly taller than me. I am 5'11". Sounds about right.
 

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From Peter King:

There's something about the Te'o story that stinks.

Television cameras focused on Notre Dame linebacker Manti Te'o during his media period at the combine: 46. In total, it was the biggest media horde in combine history. "I'd say one-third more media than Tim Tebow got,'' said combine godfather Gil Brandt.

Reporters who stayed for Georgia linebacker Alec Ogletree's complete media period at the combine: about 35.

Te'o was asked about the case of the phony girlfriend we're all familiar with. Ogletree was asked about a positive substance test that resulted in a four-game suspension last season, and about his arrest for driving under the influence earlier this month in Arizona.

What is wrong with this picture? Ogletree and Te'o are first-round inside linebacker prospects. Ogletree has two huge red flags, the second one even bigger because who takes a risk like he did, driving while impaired, on the eve of the biggest job interview of his life? Te'o has one bizarre red flag that landed him in the cross-examination chair with Katie Couric. He never met a girlfriend who turned out to be fake, and when he finally found out she was fake, he perpetuated it for a time, he says, because he was so embarrassed by it.


All I can say if Te'o drops precipitously -- and I do not believe he will; I think he goes no lower than the early 20s of the first round -- this league needs to have its collective head examined.

"I'm sitting here watching all this,'' said Nevada coach Brian Polian, the point man in the Notre Dame recruitment of Te'o, "and it's driving me out of my mind.''

Polian, son of Bill, was Notre Dame's special teams coach and the chief West Coast recruiter when Te'o was wooed. He went to Hawaii 15 times in a 13-month period, including once a week for six straight weeks during the NCAA's official contact period. He got to know Te'o the high schooler and his parents very well, obviously. "It got to the point where I'd be on the same Wednesday morning LA-to-Honolulu flight so often that the flight crew knew me and would say to me, 'Well coach, are we gonna get the guy?'

"The reason I've been so upset at how Manti has been portrayed is that I know him. He doesn't conspire to trick anyone. The people who would be so cynical, so jaded or such Notre Dame-haters simply don't know him. You have to see how he grew up. He lived in a little town on the north shore [of Oahu], where everyone knows everybody. Then he goes to a prestigious private school and, I'm not going to lie, he was sheltered. Then he goes to Notre Dame, and there aren't many places that protect and shelter their students like Notre Dame. This whole story happens, and he's guilty of one thing: trusting some sicko, because that's what he does, he trusts people. He's not jaded, he's not worldly, he's naïve. So he trusts someone who doesn't deserve to be trusted, then he's totally embarrassed by it when he finds out it's phony. Really, what is this kid's crime?

"Any NFL team that really looks into this kid is going to find out what a great person he is. I guarantee it. This thing will be a punch line in two months. He'll get to a team, players will have their fun with him for a couple of weeks, and then it'll come down to playing.''

I don't know Te'o at all. I have spent three minutes of my life with him. That happened Saturday after his press conference, which opened with Te'o looking out and saying, "Wow. That's a lot of cameras." Not just the 46 TV cameras and the 15 or 20 still photographers. But as he spoke, dozens of reporters lifted their phones up to take photos whenever he turned their way. And as he walked away from the scene and into an elevator to return him to his testing duties at the combine, I asked him a couple of questions.

"Do you think this weird girlfriend incident matters to football teams?'' I asked.

He didn't know how to answer it, and hemmed and hawed for a second, then said: "I truly believe what I did on the football field matters,'' he said. "That's what's important to being a football player."

And I asked, "What did you think of that scene in there?''

Te'o smiled. "That was a great experience,'' he said. "People were nice to me. I enjoyed it." And then he was gone.

Now there's an answer I didn't expect. Maybe, "Holy crap! That was incredible!'' But, "People were nice to me?'' I spoke to Polian after this, and it all seemed to fit -- this bizarre thing may have made him trust fewer people, but he still seems like a truster of people he's just met.

One last story: Our combine photographer Rosenberg had a short session with Te'o Sunday. He had quite a few players in his home-made studio in the Lucas Oil Stadium concourse, and he'd ask them all to pose, and then to do some action things. Rosenberg had to tell most of them to really give some effort, because it was strange to run or make sudden actions in such a confined space. When Te'o was in there, and Rosenberg asked him to run, he sprinted past Rosenberg, past the camera position, into the concourse. Sprinting. That's what he was asked to do, and so he did it.

Maybe Manti Te'o is the greatest actor in combine history. Who knows? I doubt it. I don't know how good he'll be in the NFL, but I can predict this: He's not going to be a phony.
Read More: Luke Joeckel, Dion Jordan, Jarvis Jones, Dee Milliner, Shariff Floyd and more NFL combine thoughts - NFL - Peter King - SI.com
 

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Manti Te'o to sign autographs for $80, $100 - chicagotribune.com

Manti Te’o has done the big national interviews, he has faced 32 NFL teams and media at the scouting combine.

Now, he’s ready for the public.

The Notre Dame linebacker, who drew a crowd of reporters like no other player ever before at the combine Saturday in Indianapolis, will make a public autograph appearance next month in Rosemont. Te’o is scheduled to appear at the Mounted Memories sports show at the Donald E. Stephens Convention Center on Sunday, March 24.

Te’o has been sequestered at an IMG facility in Florida preparing for the combine and workouts that will lead up to the NFL draft in two months. He’s been able to keep the focus on football and public relations coaching while avoiding the public spotlight that has been cast on him since the BCS national championship game loss to Alabama and the story that his dead ex-girlfriend was a hoax.

Fans can pay $80 and $100 to have items signed by Te’o a month before the NFL draft. Inscriptions are an additional $30 and fans can pay $80 to have a picture taken with Te’o. He will be appearing at the same time as Bears Hall of Fame linebackers Dick Butkus and Mike Singletary.

Te’o was impressive in interviews at the scouting combine but didn’t run as well as he probably hoped Monday afternoon. He was timed at 4.81 seconds, unofficially, in his first 40-yard dash and 4.80 in his second attempt. Scouts would have liked to see Te’o boost his stock with a time in the sub-4.7 range.
 

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so he was faster in high school than he is after 4 years at ND? clocked a 4.6 in high school and now a 4.8 at combine?
 
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so he was faster in high school than he is after 4 years at ND? clocked a 4.6 in high school and now a 4.8 at combine?

From the combine thread:

Remember, this is real time, not ficticious player biog time.

I remember this same conversation last year, and the year before . . .

Everybody was shocked how much slower Harrison Smith was that when he was in high school; and how slow his combine time was. How is his career working out?
 

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From MMQB:
I think, still, that Manti Te'o will be a first-round pick (not past No. 21 to Cincinnati). As one scout told me over the weekend, if you assume Te'o is likely to be a two-down player out of the lineup on most third downs, or passing downs, then the importance of his 40 time diminishes. And his 10- and 20-yard intervals were in the range of what players who run 4.6-second 40s would do. So if you assume it's important for an inside linebacker to have good burst, strength and instinct, then a guy with fast 10-yard speed is going to be valuable for that position.

Joe Flacco, Tom Brady on opposite ends of quarterback contract spectrum - NFL - Peter King - SI.com
 
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did scouts not see this guy in pass coverage last year...i don't get how they think he'll be a liability in the passing game. maybe in 4-3 where he has to run with guys more up the seam, but imo him in a 3-4 is absolutely perfect.
 

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It's very easy for someone who has the instincts like Manti to use them to cover up a 40 of his time. He will show in camps that he is an every down LB.
 

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Didn't see this posted anywhere.

Manti attending Jon Grudens QB camp, first linebacker to do so.

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If he runs around a 4.7 I have a feeling he is going to my Steelers.

Idk what to think about this if it did happen. He is the best linebacker in the draft but that is not the Steelers' #1 need. I would much rather take Kenny Vaccaro, the safety out of Texas
 
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It's crazy to see the difference between actual professional draft analysts/scouts (Kiper, McShay, Mayock) and people with legit NFL management credentials (Polian, Gruden), and the Mark Mays/Merril Hoges of the world who are "pundits."

One side makes logical points and constructs a coherent argument for what they believe and why... the other side talks in hyperbole and goes "look at the Alabama game!!!" It's so dumb because it's the equivalent of saying "Tom Brady sucks because in Super Bowl XLII he had less than 250 net yards, took 5 sacks, and only threw 1 TD as his team only scored 14 points and lost to a 10-6 wilcard team" while ignoring the fact that he has a record setting passing year during the regular season and the Patriots went undefeated.
 

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According to Kiper, Te'o's 4.71, 4.75 at ND's Pro Day, "solidifies him as a first round pick".

Kiper has him listed as his #1 ILB, 17th Overall.
 

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A local sportscaster here in Minneapolis thinks/hopes that Manti doesn't go until 23rd or 24th so the Vikings could pick up another Domer. I wouldn't complain.
 

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I got the Vikes 2nd first round pick in the IrishEnvy Mock Draft. Look out folks :)
 
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I'll be more then happy to pick Te'o at the 19. JR is a best player available drafter and nobody knows who is on his board so, we shall see.

With Dan Connor being our MLB; we could use an upgrade.
 

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Notre Dame football: Life slowing down as Te'o speeds up - southbendtribune.com
Eric Hansen SBT 3/26/13

"Ultimately, I think Te'o is looking at the same range, as before. I think he just solidified himself in that 20-32 range," said draft analyst Scott Wright of draftcountdown.com. "There really isn't that much difference between a 4.82 and a 4.69. I think it's more psychological for the teams than anything.

"It's easier for teams to justify taking a player in the first round with more prototypical measurables. Whereas if they go out on a limb and take a guy -- even though he doesn't fit the first-round profiles physically -- and then it doesn't work out, well then they have to go to their bosses and justify what happened and where they went wrong."

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Wright said that most likely somewhere remains Minnesota at pick No. 25 in the first round. The Vikings also own the 23rd pick as well. Minnesota's Rick Spielman was the only general manager present at the Pro Day.

"I'd say the other two most likely spots beyond Minnesota are Chicago at 20 and the Baltimore Ravens at 32," Wright said. "The Bears moved off Brian Urlacher. They did sign (free agent) DJ Williams, but he's played both inside and outside during his career, so there could be a fit there.

"Baltimore needs to replace Ray Lewis and Dannell Ellerbe, both of their starting inside linebackers. But I still think the Vikings are the heavy favorites."
 

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I kind of like him not being a Top 5 or 10 pick necessarily. It may mean a bit less $, but it enables him to be a leader on a quality, winning franchise. Either the Bears or the Ravens would be perfect, since they both have turn-key leadership roles for the ILB's.
 

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I don't see the Bears taking Teo. Way too much negative press on him especially around here. It's sad that passing on him is basically a PR move but they have a new coach and the second year GM is still trying to prove himself. Also think they might go O-Line with that pick since its still their biggest need despite some offseason moves.
 

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Being interviewed by GRUDEN now on the ESPN preview before the NCAA Final.
 

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Gruden talked about adversity with Manti. He talked about responsibility. And he talked about speed.

"What did you test at, 5.0," Gruden asked. "Something like that Manti relied with a laugh. Gruden commented, he'd rather have a slower player that reads the play right and reacts correctly that a quicker player that doesn't.

He should a clip of Manti stopping Locker on the goal line and praised him. Showed another successful goal line stand with another Manti tackle and added more praise for solid play. "What defense did you use," Gruden asked. "6-2 ... Lightning (something thing or other), Manti replied. "Both times, right?". "Yes!"

"Now here we are in the Bama game, goal line again. Same defense right?". "Yes, Lightning ..."

"Who has responsibility for the TE on this play?" "I did," Manti replied. Gruden then rolled the clip. On the snap Manti charged forward as he had successfully done against Locker and the second clip. Only this time there was play action and the TE streaked for the back of the End Zone. Manti did his best Calabrese impersonation, arms flailing, trying to simultaneously halt and reverse direction while muttering "Oh Feces! Somebody get my man!" the TE caught the TD with no one within 5 Yds.

It was Manti's worse game of his career. I have no doubt he wasn't 100% focus on the game with his saga unfolding. No excuse, an observation and a conclusion on my part. One thing I hadn't connected until Gruden laid it out. In goal line situation's, ND used the same defensive alignment and attacked aggressively. In the NCG Saban gave them the same look anticipated their reaction and took Manti, The Defense, and the DC to school.

Gruden made the point about learning from mistakes. He didn't comment on the DC being had by the OC.
 
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