tadman95
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Yea, we're pretty much different than every other fan base.
'13 PA ATH Alex Anzalone (Florida Early Enrollee)
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Yea, we're pretty much different than every other fan base.
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Plenty of very successful people have come out of Florida. They probably have learned what definitely is too (for you, Lord dshans).
I have never liked the idea of comparing ROI's, as much as I use Whiskey's spreadsheets to beat down friends who root for Ohio State haha I think graduation rates are a very useful indicator of the culture though. However if a kid has his head on correctly, one can go to a state school and make alllll kinds of connections via football too and have a very happy life. Hell some guys (Taylor Decker) want to be gym teachers and coach high school football. It's all about what an individual wants out of life. No doubt, Notre Dame is special, but sometimes I feel like we act like every kid who picks a different school is destined to end up broke and giving $2 BJs under the Brooklyn Bridge to support his heroin addiction..
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ThePiombino
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SEC on SEC hate. Nice.
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I don't think this statement is correct.
I think it's this:
When the parent(s) oppose(s) going to Notre Dame, we demand that they weight academics more heavily because that's what parents are supposed to do.
When the parent(s) want(s) for their child to go to Notre Dame, we commend them for steering their child down a good path (because it is).
PLACforever
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Let's not get crazy about the talent, it's Gainesville, not Miami or Tallahassee. That there is horse country.
SouthernComfort
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Hey now! I never said that I rooted for anyone for the SEC! Im the lone beacon of ND light in this state!
ThePiombino
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lol my bad. I was going off the avitar.
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He'll know where he is going after this weekend's visit, according to TV.
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Some people are being way too abstract. Sure you can get to the pros from lots of colleges if you are good, and some of the best coaches in the country are at lesser football schools. But most kids chose the higher ranked schools for all the obvious reasons: exposure, competition, facilities, proven coaches, etc.
While you can definitly get a great education almost anywhere, academic rankings and reputation are a big deal and open lots of doors. A lot of useless people from Harvard and Yale get offers that ND kids scratch and claw for. If you can get both a great education and the benefit of the reputation of the institution, why not go with both?
Its true that some great students chose a school like FLorida over ND. There are some reasons that this would happen: #54 University of Florida is costs $5,700 in state ($27,000 out of state) while #17 ND costs $42,971; you want to stay close to home; it has a unique major. In footbal, a kid might choise its #54 Tulsa over #17 Ohio State because he wants to stay close to home, he likes a particular offense, etc.
While there are some individual programs or financial reasons that might lead a top-tier student to chose Florida over ND, ND the much more desirable choice from an academic standpoint; its more presitgious and exclusive. That is not a knock on Florida, its just a fact.
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Being that they'll pay $00.00 for their degree since they're on scholarship, it's the ROI infinite?
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Being that they'll pay $00.00 for their degree since they're on scholarship, it's the ROI infinite?
I think it's something like Infinity +1.5m. Not sure exactly though.
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Totally agree with all this. We sometimes get a little snobby on this site.
It's not the education itself that differs; it's the bolded that's the key. The culture at ND, both generally and within the football program, is one where people work hard, treat each other decently (for the most part) and strive to be successful. Literally everyone I know from college is doing something pretty amazing with his/her life right now. If you are one of those people, why wouldn't you want to be in that environment? can only help
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Your point about GSR being a strong reflection of culture is a very good one. And as Domina Nostra pointed out above, there are legitimate reasons why one would choose not to go to ND: maybe they don't offer a particular degree (which is true in your case), or maybe the local connections of a different school equal or exceed ND's national cache.
But most blue chip football recruits consider the degree to be an insurance policy against the (overwhelming) possibility that they don't become rich in the NFL. From that perspective, Football ROI paints a pretty accurate picture of which schools are offering the best insurance policies.
And let's be honest. Virtually no high school senior knows what he wants to do with the rest of his life. I'd argue that picking an undergraduate school based on a certain degree is unwise.
I try not to be snobby about the ROI, Buster. But as a "quant", I'm obsessed with finding objective ways to compare things, and I think average ROI is the best proxy available for academic quality.
Being that they'll pay $00.00 for their degree since they're on scholarship, it's the ROI infinite?
No, they're just paying for it with sweat and time, instead of student loans. (You were obviously being sarcastic, but it's a still worth addressing.)
In Lou I Trust
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Damn... this is why I usually keep a safe distance from recruit profiles. I had no idea that he wasn't a hard verbal to ND. Makes me sad... I really like this kid's game.
This kid's recruitment has been a rollercoaster ride for the last few weeks, and I'm ready for it to stop honestly. As it's looking now, he'll make a decision on Monday? If he leaves, that's too bad, just make room for someone that is truly interested in the extremely bright future that is Notre Dame Football.
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Here are some facts:
1. Undergraduate institution is crucial in getting accepted to medical school. I was directly told by an assistant dean from a medical school who told me they automatically give ND student a 0.1 boost in GPA.
2. Extracurriculars, the application essays, the interview, recommendation letters, MCAT, and GPA are all important in gaining acceptance. It often is not skewed so that MCAT and GPA are clearly the most important factors. Numbers merely get you an interview (a typical school interview only 15-20% of its applicants) but you need to have a strong interview performance.
3. It doesn't really matter too much which medical school you go to. Residency programs look very heavily at board exam scores and recommendation letters (which are often earned at different institutions during electives); they don't care very much where you went to school.
4. Notre Dame has absolutely one of the very best pre-med programs in the country. More than 1% of all doctors in the United States went to ND. That's an astonishing number considering the small number of undergraduate students at ND.
1. Undergraduate institution is crucial in getting accepted to medical school. I was directly told by an assistant dean from a medical school who told me they automatically give ND student a 0.1 boost in GPA.
2. Extracurriculars, the application essays, the interview, recommendation letters, MCAT, and GPA are all important in gaining acceptance. It often is not skewed so that MCAT and GPA are clearly the most important factors. Numbers merely get you an interview (a typical school interview only 15-20% of its applicants) but you need to have a strong interview performance.
3. It doesn't really matter too much which medical school you go to. Residency programs look very heavily at board exam scores and recommendation letters (which are often earned at different institutions during electives); they don't care very much where you went to school.
4. Notre Dame has absolutely one of the very best pre-med programs in the country. More than 1% of all doctors in the United States went to ND. That's an astonishing number considering the small number of undergraduate students at ND.
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IrishSteelhead
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Kid is good enough to be "Dr. Sunday" in a few years. Let's not forget to sprinkle in we have a soon to be highly drafted MLB along with the academic talk on the visit.
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This is true.
I know a ton of doctors from my class at ND. I know probably an equal number of people who started out pre-med at ND but were majoring in business or A&L or some other science program by the middle of their sophomore year. That's without the extra commitment of being a varsity football player. Pre-med at ND is tough.
That's partly why it's one of the best pre-med programs in the country. It's also why picking a college based on a particular major - especially a highly competitive major like pre-med, is unwise. People change their mind. People get to the big leagues (academically) and realize they're not cut out for it. **** happens.
In that case I'd rather be at ND. But you can also get a good education at Florida - it's one of the best state schools in the country. Anzalone should go where he feels most comfortable. If he's smart enough to hack it in Notre Dame's pre-med program, he'll be fine regardless.
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Hope this kid stays
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Me too.
ThePiombino
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Think he'll make a final decision this w/e...again?
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Te'o averages that, doesn't he?
Rocky2820
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Per ISD, we should know by the end of the week.
ThePiombino
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Well, at least we'll get some sort of closure with this soap opera.
Rocky2820
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Thank goodness! Do hope he sticks.
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Dr. Anzalone wore a ND jacket yesterday. This clearly means he is sticking with ND.
PLACforever
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Dr. Anzalone wore a ND jacket yesterday. This clearly means he is sticking with ND.
Clearly lol