'13 OH QB Malik Zaire (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[NDdomer2]

Could be dangerous move by Herman, to give the ropes to a grad transfer that's barely played last two years, and not showing up until fall camp, in your first year as HC.

If it goes well ur a genius, but why risk souring ur new gig year 1 with that kind of risk all because you recruited him once upon a time.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Speculation that Florida is not an option if he is truly announcing on May 19th prior to the SEC spring meetings.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Was told Malik Zaire may announce his decision on May 19, before SEC meetings. That could eliminate UF, leaving Texas, Wisconsin & Harvard</p>— Anwar Richardson (@AnwarRichardson) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnwarRichardson/status/860510965665861634">May 5, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Notre Dame Football: Malik Zaire has three options, all of which aren’t great fits

 

[IrishLion]

If those are your options, and you're not a sure-fire starter except at Harvard, then I feel you kind of bungled the process as it pertains to making the decision for football purposes.

That's just me, though, because a Harvard grad degree is a decent consolation lol.

But if he's transferring to try and be a starting QB, he could've picked a number of AAC or MAC schools and gotten some exposure.

 

[ab2cmiller]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former ND QB Malik Zaire may announce his decision next Friday. Here is what I was told about his interest in Texas <a href="https://t.co/wcFmXcb1gD">pic.twitter.com/wcFmXcb1gD</a></p>— Anwar Richardson (@AnwarRichardson) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnwarRichardson/status/863014745938505728">May 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Why not go to Harvard, light it up, get a fantastic grad degree and if nothing else comes of it - you have two top notch educations on your resume.

Geez, what a great situation.

 

[BobbyMac]

Why not go to Harvard, light it up, get a fantastic grad degree and if nothing else comes of it - you have two top notch educations on your resume.

Geez, what a great situation.

Absolutely. Go to Harvard and get the reps, take your shot at the NFL/Canada and fill up another Rolodex.

Maybe it's in the stars? Who's the best Harvard player in modern times? Ryan Fitzpatrick. Where's Ryan Fitzpatrick from Gilbert AZ. Where has Malik been working out for the past few months? Gilbert AZ.

 

[koonja]

Wouldn't he have to pay his own way at Harvard? I thought they didn't do schollys. You can still go there and get your ROI, but telling him to go ~40K in debt (made up number for harvard masters), isn't something to scoff at.

 

[NDdomer2]

Wouldn't he have to pay his own way at Harvard? I thought they didn't do schollys. You can still go there and get your ROI, but telling him to go ~40K in debt (made up number for harvard masters), isn't something to scoff at.

would be best 40k he could ever spend. already got a free under grad from ND, paying 40k for a Harvard grad degree is a no-brainer.

 

[BobbyMac]

Wouldn't he have to pay his own way at Harvard? I thought they didn't do schollys. You can still go there and get your ROI, but telling him to go ~40K in debt (made up number for harvard masters), isn't something to scoff at.

If his parents didn't claim him on taxes last year. Harvard is free.

If they did, Ivy League schools are masters of finding every obscure scholarship available to bring the cost of attendance down.

 

[IrishLion]

Idk if he'd even get a shot at the NFL if he attends Harvard, when you consider the competition in conjunction with his wonky throwing mechanics.

I think it would've taken lighting up the FBS ranks for a year to get him a sure-fire shot in the league.

But, taking a crack at the CFL for a bit and then eventually falling back onto a Harvard Grad Degree is an awesome sauce way to go.

 

[koonja]

If his parents didn't claim him on taxes last year. Harvard is free.

If they did, Ivy League schools are masters of finding every obscure scholarship available to bring the cost of attendance down.

How so? I believe you, just wondering. Also, I'd assume his parents didn't claim him. He wouldn't exactly be a tax break considering all of the free education $ he gets (not a CPA, but would be my guess).

 

[BobbyMac]

How so? I believe you, just wondering. Also, I'd assume his parents didn't claim him. He wouldn't exactly be a tax break considering all of the free education $ he gets (not a CPA, but would be my guess).

And, if your family earns less than $65,000 per year, your parents pay nothing for you to attend Harvard. It is simply our effort to make sure you and your family know you can afford to attend Harvard.

https://college.harvard.edu/financial-aid/how-aid-works/harvard-financial-aid-initiative

 

[Irish#1]

Wouldn't he have to pay his own way at Harvard? I thought they didn't do schollys. You can still go there and get your ROI, but telling him to go ~40K in debt (made up number for harvard masters), isn't something to scoff at.

They don't do athletic scholarships, but they can provide money for the academic side.

That's what a lot of D3 schools do. All of these little private D3 schools run about 40-50K a year. The kids that go to one to play sports usually get about half paid for in academic scholarships, grants, etc.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Even if he pays 30k to attend and get a grad degree from Harvard, it's the smart choice.

When we discuss student loans/debt, we're talking about it from a state school perspective, you take as much debt as necessary to attend an Ivy (especially if you want to go into business). Or Ivy + ND + Stanford since they all have quality business schools.

 

[NorthDakota]

How so? I believe you, just wondering. Also, I'd assume his parents didn't claim him. He wouldn't exactly be a tax break considering all of the free education $ he gets (not a CPA, but would be my guess).

Cousin just graduated from Columbia. Ran track. Middle class family. Less than 30K in loans.

Ivies hook you up.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Even if he pays 30k to attend and get a grad degree from Harvard, it's the smart choice.

When we discuss student loans/debt, we're talking about it from a state school perspective, you take as much debt as necessary to attend an Ivy (especially if you want to go into business). Or Ivy + ND + Stanford since they all have quality business schools.

I thought he was trying Media stuff.

Maybe he can take his 5th year at McGill?

 

[NDohio]

An admissions adviser at Harvard told us "It is harder to get into Harvard than it is to pay for Harvard".

Their goal is to have students graduate with little to no debt. They have a $36 billion endowment. If MZ wants to go to Harvard and they want him, he will go to Harvard.

 

[BobbyMac]

I thought he was trying Media stuff.

Maybe he can take his 5th year at McGill?

...and then hook up with the Allouettes and replace Darian Durant who's about my age.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I don't think Harvard's financial aid is near as good for Grad School. The financial aid for undergrad is awesome.

 

[zelezo vlk]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Zaire doesn't plan to announce his decision until after the SEC spring meetings. <a href="https://t.co/ur8AZol7Sc">https://t.co/ur8AZol7Sc</a></p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/865562574036893696">May 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Meatloaf]

Pretty clear that it's Florida or bust at this point, and by bust I mean Harvard.

 

[Rack Em]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Zaire doesn't plan to announce his decision until after the SEC spring meetings. <a href="https://t.co/ur8AZol7Sc">https://t.co/ur8AZol7Sc</a></p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/865562574036893696">May 19, 2017</a></blockquote>
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He has royally fucked himself by waiting so long.

 

[IrishLion]

He has royally fucked himself by waiting so long.

The only way this wasn't bungled is if someone at Florida got the wink-wink-nudge-nudge from an SEC official, and he was ALSO guaranteed to be the starter once it's cleared.

 

[Old Man Mike]

If he really thinks he has a shot at the NFL, he should not get scared off by Buechele (although it seems they're in love with that guy down there) and go to Texas. If he can't beat Buechele out, then what's the chance for the NFL? Zaire needs to prove it vs big time competition. If Wisconsin's out, then Texas is what he's got.

Going to Texas and running all over the opposition would probably "work" to get him a serious look --- hard to believe that Harvard would.

By the way, almost no one not extremely rich pays to go to school at Harvard. The big deal is "simply" to pass admissions. It is also true that almost no one actually needs to perform academically to get a "B", which has devolved into an "F" psychologically. This has been quite the controversy and embarrassment in the academic community about Ivy League school and undergraduate education for decades.

 

[Luckylucci]

If he really thinks he has a shot at the NFL, he should not get scared off by Buechele (although it seems they're in love with that guy down there) and go to Texas. If he can't beat Buechele out, then what's the chance for the NFL? Zaire needs to prove it vs big time competition. If Wisconsin's out, then Texas is what he's got.

Going to Texas and running all over the opposition would probably "work" to get him a serious look --- hard to believe that Harvard would.

By the way, almost no one not extremely rich pays to go to school at Harvard. The big deal is "simply" to pass admissions. It is also true that almost no one actually needs to perform academically to get a "B", which has devolved into an "F" psychologically. This has been quite the controversy and embarrassment in the academic community about Ivy League school and undergraduate education for decades.

I get the rationale but that wouldn't be the smartest move. Trying to beat out the hometown kid and established starter in Buechele, is a risky proposition. If you only have one year to do your thing, you go with the easiest path to the field, so you can focus on just getting better. No QB competition, media asking you questions about it, potential for divided locker room, full attention of coaching staff, etc.

 

[BobbyMac]

I get the rationale but that wouldn't be the smartest move. Trying to beat out the hometown kid and established starter in Buechele, is a risky proposition. If you only have one year to do your thing, you go with the easiest path to the field, so you can focus on just getting better. No QB competition, media asking you questions about it, potential for divided locker room, full attention of coaching staff, etc.

This.

EVEN IF Herman and Beck promised him the starters job (remember both of those coaches history with Malik the recruit) and told Buechele you aren't out prototypical QB, there's still a QB controversy to the media because there's no conventional "QB controversy". As much as it could make sense it will be a circus if he goes there.

There are currently 13 FCS or below QB's on NFL rosters. If he plays well enough at Harvard he'll get his look and there will be no doubt he's the man once he walks into the locker room.

Is that a prediction? No.

 

[Legacy]

Report: Texas is a finalist for Notre Dame graduate transfer QB Malik Zaire (Burnt Orange Nation)

 

[Irish#1]

Glad to see that degree. Hope he has a successful life after ND.

 

[dwshade]

According to Pete Sampson on the II podcast Florida has pretty much told Malik that they expect the waiver to be approved and he'll be a Gator next season. Great opportunity for him as the QB's there pretty much suck.

 

[Blaise]

According to Pete Sampson on the II podcast Florida has pretty much told Malik that they expect the waiver to be approved and he'll be a Gator next season. Great opportunity for him as the QB's there pretty much suck.

I believe every decision he has made this off season has in large part been due to thinking the waiver would be approved. Florida is the perfect fit and he could really shine like he did against LSU.. Ball control offense