'13 CA S Max Redfield (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

[Cackalacky]

Watching the game now. And after the trick play he played the remainder of the first half.


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[ulukinatme]

The first time I saw Redfield was on the trick play. He bit hard on the run fake. Like real hard. No cover for the DBs. Not sure he played much after that until garbage time.

When I saw that play, I was thinking "Bah gawd! Shades of the LSU Bowl Game!" /GoodOl'JR

 

[Green Mountains]

The interception was Max playing centerfield with KVR breaking up the play. However, the tackle he had later in the fourth was what we've been hoping for from Max. Let's hope those two plays drive his confidence and his on field play to another level.

And as for the NBC commentary, we talk a lot about student athletes. If he is taking 18 credit hours (as was reported), then kudos to him. He seems to be making the most of his educational opportunity. Isn't that what we say these kids should be doing?

 

[Cackalacky]

The interception was Max playing centerfield with KVR breaking up the play. However, the tackle he had later in the fourth was what we've been hoping for from Max. Let's hope those two plays drive his confidence and his on field play to another level.

And as for the NBC commentary, we talk a lot about student athletes. If he is taking 18 credit hours (as was reported), then kudos to him. He seems to be making the most of his educational opportunity. Isn't that what we say these kids should be doing?

Yep. I did not know he had that course load. Crazy.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Thought it was funny when Max was quoted as saying that learning Mandarin Chinese was easier than learning BVG's defense!

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Thought it was funny when Max was quoted as saying that learning Mandarin Chinese was easier than learning BVG's defense!

Your funny is another man's concern.

 

[Irish YJ]

Your funny is another man's concern.

this...
and I think Nyles would agree with Max.

 

[greyhammer90]

this...
and I think Nyles would agree with Max.

Can you get rid of that stupid signature? Sick of seeing that sh*t.

 

[Irish YJ]

Can you get rid of that stupid signature? Sick of seeing that sh*t.

why you mad after a win last night. was going to bask in the glory for another 7 hours, but for you GH, I will kill it.

 

[greyhammer90]

why you mad after a win last night. was going to bask in the glory for another 7 hours, but for you GH, I will kill it.

I mean I get the joke of using our opponents as the sig every week, so I disregarded my slightly-raised blood pressure throughout the week and didn't say anything. But yeah... Games over. We won. F*ck USC. I'm still salty about 10 years ago.

Appreciate it.

 

[Irish YJ]

I mean I get the joke of using our opponents as the sig every week, so I disregarded my slightly-raised blood pressure throughout the week and didn't say anything. But yeah... Games over. We won. F*ck USC. I'm still salty about 10 years ago.

Appreciate it.

I will always be salty about 10 years ago. Seeing that pic puts me in the right frame of mind for USC game week. F'''' USC

 

[NDBoiler]

I mean I get the joke of using our opponents as the sig every week, so I disregarded my slightly-raised blood pressure throughout the week and didn't say anything. But yeah... Games over. We won. F*ck USC. I'm still salty about 10 years ago.

Appreciate it.

You can go to Edit Options under User CP and hide signatures. I did that a long time ago with so many people having gifs in their signs that took forever to load.

 

[Irish YJ]

You can go to Edit Options under User CP and hide signatures. I did that a long time ago with so many people having gifs in their signs that took forever to load.

You still on dial up in Noblesville?

 

[NDBoiler]

You still on dial up in Noblesville?

Just got a new 56k modem the other day and I'm loving that AOL came pre installed on my new Gateway.

 

[Irish YJ]

Just got a new 56k modem the other day and I'm loving that AOL came pre installed on my new Gateway.

Need to get you updated with some lighting fast DSL brother. Before I switched back to Comcast (I had Clear for a year) I did the same thing (turn sigs off). Now I'm back to surfing at 20+M. Don't know how I made it through that long, dark, slow, depressing year....

 

[Bogtrotter07]

am going to post this in about three zillion places.

Opponents are not targeting Joe Schmidt; they are targeting a defensive backfield guaranteed to fail if they see something that makes them have to rely on the system they have in place. Sound funny? The DB in particular cannot run the scheme they have been given. Not because it is two complex, but because they just don't hold the discipline. And it isn't everyone.

I talked to someone very knowledgeable on the topic, someone who has forgotten more than I will ever know and they stated this thesis when I asked. So what did I do? Get mad at them and argue against their point! Futilely!

Then I saw this article :

OFD Films: Chaos in the Notre Dame Secondary - One Foot Down

Final Thoughts

You want to know why the Notre Dame defense has been giving up big plays? The primary culprit has been a secondary that has too many mental errors and hasn't lived up to their potential. The plays featured here aren't the result of a scheme that's too complex or a former walk-on at middle linebacker. They are the result of errors from players that should know better.

Just a snippet! Read the rest, he compares the play of a couple safeties to that of Gong Show Contestants, and he had about as big of bone to pick over KVR's prima donna swan song, a la Pitt :

I have no idea why Max Redfield (yellow circle and question mark) would abandon his deep coverage responsibility on this play. No idea whatsoever. I simply don't have an explanation. Hence the question mark.

KVR is in my opinion, even worse (blue box). When he sees Boyd blow by him, he doesn't try and chase. Instead, he turns and starts pointing at Redfield (green arrow). I don't think I've ever seen that from a player. Are you kidding me?

There's no question Redfield screwed up. He should have stayed deep. But Russell should have been deep as well. More importantly, when he sees that Redfield is gone and the best receiver on the other team is running free, KVR should be putting his head down and sprinting to try and make a play. At least make an effort. Instead, he decides to literally point the finger at a teammate mid-play. Wow.

And it is interesting because Larz does weigh in on Schmidt, also : Verdict? A step slower this year, but look at the defensive backfield!

This is an even more important read for Irish fans :

OFD Films: Joe Schmidt Iso Cam - One Foot Down

 

[Emcee77]

Yeah at times Kelly has been about as pointed as he can publicly get in his criticism of the secondary.

And that play was bizarre. I have no idea what Russell was thinking about when he pointed dumbly at the guy catching a TD pass. Just weird.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Does anyone else think the KVR has the skill set that might benefit us more at safety? yes he's a good corner, but I think with his ball skills and over the top mentality he may be better suited for safety?

Thoughts?

 

[stlnd01]

Does anyone else think the KVR has the skill set that might benefit us more at safety? yes he's a good corner, but I think with his ball skills and over the top mentality he may be better suited for safety?

Thoughts?

Could be. But a little late for that at this point, unless he comes back next year. Which after the season he's having, he just might. (If he can academically/eligibility-wise. I'm not sure. But I'd love to have him next year.)

To the man of the thread though: I feel like Redfield will put it all together eventually. He's got to. Just too talented not to. But to date he may be the most confounding player on the team.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I've been harping about our bad safety play for two years --- a huge percentage of the big chunk plays are due to them. Really crappy instincts.

But that is a forbidden opinion on IE because anyone as eye-test talented as Redfield and Shumate MUST be great on the field. I'd really like to have seen Sebastian on the field. Maybe an experienced solid veteran could have saved all of this.

 

[Luckylucci]

I've been harping about our bad safety play for two years --- a huge percentage of the big chunk plays are due to them. Really crappy instincts.

But that is a forbidden opinion on IE because anyone as eye-test talented as Redfield and Shumate MUST be great on the field. I'd really like to have seen Sebastian on the field. Maybe an experienced solid veteran could have saved all of this.

Shumate has been pretty darn good this year. BK even thinks so, praising him a couple weeks back.

 

[Wild Bill]

I've been harping about our bad safety play for two years --- a huge percentage of the big chunk plays are due to them. Really crappy instincts.

But that is a forbidden opinion on IE because anyone as eye-test talented as Redfield and Shumate MUST be great on the field. I'd really like to have seen Sebastian on the field. Maybe an experienced solid veteran could have saved all of this.

Is it? IIRC, many posters were ecstatic about five star Redfield grabbing some bench in favor of three star Tranquill.

I hope Tranquill comes back strong and can take the role of being a veteran leader next year. I do agree with you there, we desperately need one.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Shumate has been pretty darn good this year. BK even thinks so, praising him a couple weeks back.

BK also praises Joe, so I'll take his word with a grain of salt.

 

[Luckylucci]

BK also praises Joe, so I'll take his word with a grain of salt.

That's fair. IMO, Shumate is playing well.

 

[koonja]

Yeah Shumate passes the eye test as well as the field test. No idea what the above is talking about. Shumate has had a great year.

 

[Booslum31]

I've been harping about our bad safety play for two years --- a huge percentage of the big chunk plays are due to them. Really crappy instincts.

But that is a forbidden opinion on IE because anyone as eye-test talented as Redfield and Shumate MUST be great on the field. I'd really like to have seen Sebastian on the field. Maybe an experienced solid veteran could have saved all of this.

Safety (like CB) lends itself to get scorched from time to time. One wrong move and you are beat. What has surprised me is how far out of position Max has been at times. So far out of position that he can't catch up to make the tackle before they score. Goes from being a big chunk play to being a TD.

 

[ShawneeIrish]

Max has certainly had his struggles but Im still hoping it all comes together late for hom as has been the case for some of our safeties in the past like Harrison Smith.

 

[Crazy Balki]

There's a very legitimate reason Schmidt gets the blunt of the criticism from the fanbase. The secondary is what it is. Redfield is playing poorly, but there isn't any other option at this point outside of pulling him for Farley, which has it's own repercussions. We have legitimate options behind Schmidt, who's issues are both mental and physical. Plenty of options, yet we don't use them, not even in a platooning system.

 

[Domina Nostra]

There's a very legitimate reason Schmidt gets the blunt of the criticism from the fanbase. The secondary is what it is. Redfield is playing poorly, but there isn't any other option at this point outside of pulling him for Farley, which has it's own repercussions. We have legitimate options behind Schmidt, who's issues are both mental and physical. Plenty of options, yet we don't use them, not even in a platooning system.

This is the part I don't understand. Why can't they find a limited role for Martini and Morgan at MLB?

They should have gootten more creative in the backfield during the Spring. Butler or Coleman should be playing safety.

 

[koonja]

This is the part I don't understand. Why can't they find a limited role for Martini and Morgan at MLB?

That's what drives me mad. We're theoretically putting all of our eggs in the 'Schmidt doesn't get hurt' basket, because they refuse to give anyone else a snap at the position. Is the season over? We become the worst defense ever? What happens? We have ZERO reps of game experience this year behind him.

I say theoretically because I am convinced if any of the backups did have to go in, our defense would improve immediately. You can't be pancake in the middle.