'11 GA S Avery Sebastian (Notre Dame Transferee)

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I hope he blows it out of the water, and Studstill gets on the field by virtue of defensive domination.
 
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IrishLion said:
I hope he blows it out of the water, and Studstill gets on the field by virtue of defensive domination.
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This would be great. Have no idea how he did at Cal but have not heard favorable things since he came here about his speed. That's my concern. Hopefully the rumors are false and he has enough speed for FS.
 
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The good news, he lost like 20-some pounds apparently from last season, so perhaps he's faster? The bad news: every reporter who's seen him in practice says we're in real trouble if he has to play. One podcast said that they think Texas can beat us if we line up in the back with Tranquill and Sebastian.
 
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koonja said:
The good news, he lost like 20-some pounds apparently from last season, so perhaps he's faster? The bad news: every reporter who's seen him in practice says we're in real trouble if he has to play. One podcast said that they think Texas can beat us if we line up in the back with Tranquill and Sebastian.
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I firmly believe that no one player, sans QB, can cost you a game. Hell, we could sit in nickel all game and problem solved. It's idiotic of that podcast to think one player at safety could cost us a game.
 
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woolybug25 said:
I firmly believe that no one player, sans QB, can cost you a game. Hell, we could sit in nickel all game and problem solved. It's idiotic of that podcast to think one player at safety could cost us a game.
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Completely agree. They wouldn't put him back there if they didn't think they could win with him.
 
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woolybug25 said:
I firmly believe that no one player, sans QB, can cost you a game. Hell, we could sit in nickel all game and problem solved. It's idiotic of that podcast to think one player at safety could cost us a game.
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Great post...I can;'t rep you anymore, but would if I could.
 
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woolybug25 said:
I firmly believe that no one player, sans QB, can cost you a game. Hell, we could sit in nickel all game and problem solved. It's idiotic of that podcast to think one player at safety could cost us a game.
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Agree with this and don't think he could cost us the game. Worried that he is a step slow like JS was at LB last year and it allows drives to stay alive and keeps the game much closer than it should be.
 
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FightingIrishLover7 said:
The new Joe Schmidt?
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My issue with Joe was not his speed (though he was slow), it was that it was so easy to blow him up and push him around. If Avery is slow, then he better be in position and he better make the play when he gets there. Safety is my specialty (the only thing I can possibly add to this board) so I'll be watching both safeties closely and giving feedback.
 
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woolybug25 said:
I firmly believe that no one player, sans QB, can cost you a game. Hell, we could sit in nickel all game and problem solved. It's idiotic of that podcast to think one player at safety could cost us a game.
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Someone is forgetting 2011 Gary Gray @ Michigan lol
 
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We're not deep at Safety, but we do have some bodies. I imagine the hand wringing over Avery starting won't be as bad as people are forecasting. I know a lot has been said about his speed in his time here, but there were some comments early in camp that his play had improved. Lets wait and see what happens Sunday before he gets Farley'd.
 
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woolybug25 said:
I firmly believe that no one player, sans QB, can cost you a game. Hell, we could sit in nickel all game and problem solved. It's idiotic of that podcast to think one player at safety could cost us a game.
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Totally agree with you about no one non-QB being the difference between winning and losing. But... Sebastian + Tranquill at safety does not inspire confidence. Will put a lot of pressure on the corners in coverage, to say nothing of their collective fragility.
 
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I hope this kid comes out and balls out on Sunday. 8 tackles, 2 tackles for loss and a pick. And he shuts up everyone on this board.


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I don't feel super concerned about this. 6th year player. Kelly spoke highly of him and I trust Kelly. None of us have seen much of him at all so I guess we'll all just have to wait and see. Hopefully he plays well. I'm not concerned about Tranquill at all. I think he may be one of our smartest players and I think he's faster than other people think. Go IRISH. Beat Texas.
 
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Sherm Sticky said:
I hope this kid comes out and balls out on Sunday. 8 tackles, 2 tackles for loss and a pick. And he shuts up everyone on this board.


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I sure hope he does but I don't think anyone is being ridiculous in their criticism here. He didn't have "starting S" productivity at Cal, he didn't last year at ND, and for those that have seen him (Spring/Summer) have not been impressed. Again, I hope he does, but this isn't misplaced negativity.

On top of that, we have a DC, that has given the fanbase a lot of reasons to challenge his decision making abilities. Whether that is personnel or scheme. So, I don't see it being unreasonable that folks question this move. Once again, I hope that BVG finally puts out a top 25 defense. I cheer for ND. But that doesn't change the past and how one would evaluate the current decision.
 
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Luckylucci said:
I sure hope he does but I don't think anyone is being ridiculous in their criticism here. He didn't have "starting S" productivity at Cal, he didn't last year at ND, and for those that have seen him (Spring/Summer) have not been impressed. Again, I hope he does, but this isn't misplaced negativity.

On top of that, we have a DC, that has given the fanbase a lot of reasons to challenge his decision making abilities. Whether that is personnel or scheme. So, I don't see it being unreasonable that folks question this move. Once again, I hope that BVG finally puts out a top 25 defense. I cheer for ND. But that doesn't change the past and how one would evaluate the current decision.
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I think the immediate criticism of him is slightly knee jerk. He was a big time recruit and was an honorable mention all pac12 his sophomore year. They expected big things for him before injuries killed him. He has been very unlucky in that regard, even here at ND. Judging his stats from his time before getting to South Bend is pretty tough comsidering he's been hurt pretty much the entire time.

Now his mediocre practice evaluations and injury history should be a concern. That being said, we should be thankful that he chose to pursue a 5th year at ND. His injury last year allowed us a saving grace now, otherwise we would be looking even worse at the position. Kids turn it on sometimes when they get the chance. Look at Kizer for instance, before Malik went down nobody thought he would become the guy he is now. But he got his opportunity. Now Sebastian has his chance and he has been in the system. I hope he gives us a swan song. I doubt he takes the opportunity for granted.
 
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Kelly is thinking on the road at Texas he wants a guy with college experience starting back there. He also said Studstill fell behind with the hamstring injury that kept him out of practice. Studstill will play this week and I think gradually his time will increase and eventually he'll start. Just not on the road at Texas.
 
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Let me just add that I bet this is essentially a short term placeholder to deal with "the moment". I doubt we're at week 8 and see Avery taking more snaps than Studstill. Unless...... Avery is balling out, that'd be the only way I'd be disappointed.
 
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woolybug25 said:
I think the immediate criticism of him is slightly knee jerk. He was a big time recruit and was an honorable mention all pac12 his sophomore year. They expected big things for him before injuries killed him. He has been very unlucky in that regard, even here at ND. Judging his stats from his time before getting to South Bend is pretty tough comsidering he's been hurt pretty much the entire time.

Now his mediocre practice evaluations and injury history should be a concern. That being said, we should be thankful that he chose to pursue a 5th year at ND. His injury last year allowed us a saving grace now, otherwise we would be looking even worse at the position. Kids turn it on sometimes when they get the chance. Look at Kizer for instance, before Malik went down nobody thought he would become the guy he is now. But he got his opportunity. Now Sebastian has his chance and he has been in the system. I hope he gives us a swan song. I doubt he takes the opportunity for granted.
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Can't rep you now, but great post.
 
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woolybug25 said:
I think the immediate criticism of him is slightly knee jerk. He was a big time recruit and was an honorable mention all pac12 his freshman year. They expected big things for him before injuries killed him. He has been very unlucky in that regard, even here at ND. Judging his stats from his time before getting to South Bend is pretty tough comsidering he's been hurt pretty much the entire time.

Now his mediocre practice evaluations and injury history should be a concern. That being said, we should be thankful that he chose to pursue a 5th year at ND. His injury last year allowed us a saving grace now, otherwise we would be looking even worse at the position. Kids turn it on sometimes when they get the chance. Look at Kizer for instance, before Malik went down nobody thought he would become the guy he is now. But he got his opportunity. Now Sebastian has his chance and he has been in the system. I hope he gives us a swan song. I doubt he takes the opportunity for granted.
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I personally don't think he's our saving grace just because he's starting at FS on Sunday. I don't have the same faith is BVG's scheme or personnel decision making, that others due. Therefore, I think that some being concerned this turnouts like the Scmidt/Morgan, is valid. Essentially stunting a talented players growth.

It's great to hope, I hope he does too. Hope didn't have to do with my previous statement. People that are talking about what they actually think will happen and have reasons for it, that again are completely valid.
 
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