'12 AZ WR Davonte Neal (Arizona Transfer)

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Long time reader, first time post. Just felt that I had to say something.

To call Alford overrated is to defy logic. The man recruits for a school in Indiana in an area that not only competes against the likes of Florida, Florida State, and Miami in the state, but pretty much the entire SEC and many other schools out of the state.

I know for one that many Big Ten schools, ACC schools, and a school like USC recruit the area hard. For Alford to go into a recruiting hot zone like that and pull out good prospects, luring them to Notre Dame, is an unbelievable effort in and of itself. When you combine that with some of the major jobs he's pulled, a la the Aaron Lynch recruitment, it's unbelievable that anyone would think he's a poor recruiter. And as many have said, just ask the kids he recruits.

It becomes even more obvious how important he is to the staff when you realize that out of the entire national footprint that ND has for recruiting, he is given arguably the most important and toughest assignment. Florida may be a toss up with California, but that's what the other top-notch recruiter (Denbrock) handles.

Moreover, he has the not-so-small task of recruiting kids that have at least a dozen "universities" lined up ready to offer any of the same kids an opportunity to take the easy way out and go to a school that doesn't emphasize academics in the same way. When you combine that with the fact that this is the roughest stretch in recent Notre Dame history, it's unreal that he does the job he does.

Sorry for the ranting first post, but it's shocking for some not to realize what we have. Guarantee that the ND staff doesn't under appreciate him, and you could bet that if he were to move elsewhere he'd have a top job in a heartbeat; just look at his Green Bay interview for proof of that.

I for one am glad he's at ND and hope he goes nowhere fast.

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What really sucks is I go to work at about 5am and then half to wait another four and a half hours to hear how this went down!!!
 

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Long time reader, first time post. Just felt that I had to say something.

To call Alford overrated is to defy logic. The man recruits for a school in Indiana in an area that not only competes against the likes of Florida, Florida State, and Miami in the state, but pretty much the entire SEC and many other schools out of the state.

I know for one that many Big Ten schools, ACC schools, and a school like USC recruit the area hard. For Alford to go into a recruiting hot zone like that and pull out good prospects, luring them to Notre Dame, is an unbelievable effort in and of itself. When you combine that with some of the major jobs he's pulled, a la the Aaron Lynch recruitment, it's unbelievable that anyone would think he's a poor recruiter. And as many have said, just ask the kids he recruits.

It becomes even more obvious how important he is to the staff when you realize that out of the entire national footprint that ND has for recruiting, he is given arguably the most important and toughest assignment. Florida may be a toss up with California, but that's what the other top-notch recruiter (Denbrock) handles.

Moreover, he has the not-so-small task of recruiting kids that have at least a dozen "universities" lined up ready to offer any of the same kids an opportunity to take the easy way out and go to a school that doesn't emphasize academics in the same way. When you combine that with the fact that this is the roughest stretch in recent Notre Dame history, it's unreal that he does the job he does.

Sorry for the ranting first post, but it's shocking for some not to realize what we have. Guarantee that the ND staff doesn't under appreciate him, and you could bet that if he were to move elsewhere he'd have a top job in a heartbeat; just look at his Green Bay interview for proof of that.

I for one am glad he's at ND and hope he goes nowhere fast.
One of the best first posts I can ever remember. Spot on!
 

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The dude got Lous Nix to commit WITHOUT A HEAD COACH. How can you people criticize him? Hes one of the many players if it wasn't for Alford wouldnt be wearing our jersey.

Seriously. This is beyond impressive to me. And oh no, he was only able to pull in Justin Ferguson, very underrated recruit this year. Even though we were in on Poole and Agholor. And that even belies his flexibility as a coach. How many positions has he filled on this staff? I think he's finally got the perfect role.
 

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For what it is worth, the current opinion from most of the "insiders" is that Neal is most likely going to announce that he is coming to Notre Dame tomorrow. I hope they are correct because Davonte Neal is an extraordinary playmaker and would be a perfect fit for Kelly's offence.
 

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For what it is worth, the current opinion from most of the "insiders" is that Neal is most likely going to announce that he is coming to Notre Dame tomorrow. I hope they are correct because Davonte Neal is an extraordinary playmaker and would be a perfect fit for Kelly's offence.


If he does in fact choose ND tomorrow, and I hope that he does, I think one of the more underrated aspects of the commitment is to generate some momentum on the recruiting trail. With the way UM is recruiting lord knows we need it.

Also would show that there just may be a little bit of the "Gunner Kiel effect" for prospective recruits.

Here's hoping.
 

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Long time reader, first time post. Just felt that I had to say something.

To call Alford overrated is to defy logic. The man recruits for a school in Indiana in an area that not only competes against the likes of Florida, Florida State, and Miami in the state, but pretty much the entire SEC and many other schools out of the state.

I know for one that many Big Ten schools, ACC schools, and a school like USC recruit the area hard. For Alford to go into a recruiting hot zone like that and pull out good prospects, luring them to Notre Dame, is an unbelievable effort in and of itself. When you combine that with some of the major jobs he's pulled, a la the Aaron Lynch recruitment, it's unbelievable that anyone would think he's a poor recruiter. And as many have said, just ask the kids he recruits.

It becomes even more obvious how important he is to the staff when you realize that out of the entire national footprint that ND has for recruiting, he is given arguably the most important and toughest assignment. Florida may be a toss up with California, but that's what the other top-notch recruiter (Denbrock) handles.

Moreover, he has the not-so-small task of recruiting kids that have at least a dozen "universities" lined up ready to offer any of the same kids an opportunity to take the easy way out and go to a school that doesn't emphasize academics in the same way. When you combine that with the fact that this is the roughest stretch in recent Notre Dame history, it's unreal that he does the job he does.

Sorry for the ranting first post, but it's shocking for some not to realize what we have. Guarantee that the ND staff doesn't under appreciate him, and you could bet that if he were to move elsewhere he'd have a top job in a heartbeat; just look at his Green Bay interview for proof of that.

I for one am glad he's at ND and hope he goes nowhere fast.

Glad you found your voice. Just don't **** us off down the road by dogging out fav recruiters. (Kidding)

No one hear understands what goes into the process of deciding what players to recruit. There is a whole 'nother dimension to Kelly's recruiting efforts. You can see it with Martin and the rest of the staff now. Kelly has said that most people are not for Notre Dame. If he finds a problem, then you are going to see a "lack of recruiting effort for a top prospect" and the fan base is going to have to nash and wail in the cold and darkness.

Here is a way to put it. How many of you that have a girlfriend or wife, (this excludes some of you, DH), actually picked her on the basis of how good looking she was? With no other considerations about her personality or personal habits, etc.? 10 star yaboes, that's good enough.

See? There is much more for it with Kelly's staff. They have to work as a team.
 

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Maybe this will get this thread back on topic.

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kid's got skills.
 

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Maybe this will get this thread back on topic.

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kid's got skills.

Ridiculous talent. Reminds me a little of Golden Tate in his smaller stature but unreal ability to make people miss. Would be a great addition to the slot, if that is in fact where he plays. Perfect for Kelly's offense.
 

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He may be fast enough to play QB...... and catch his own passes. His stats would be, you know, good.
 

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So hold on, does he announce between 7 - 7:30 PST? or 11 - 11:30 PST?

I thought I knew, but then my mind went blank hearing things like "Alford is an overrated recruiter."
 

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TP you just made my day! Heck my year if you are right! I have been sitting here waiting for your tweet for days! BEST DAY EVER!!
 

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Neal to ND, would bet all my vbucks on it if someone tossed up a bet.

finally someone puts their v-money where their mouth is. Enough of the b.s. cryptic predictions.

(yes, I realize I just broke my own request to keep posts about news. But clearly no one listened so if you can't beat them join them)
 

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If he comes to ND, I am buying Phork a vbeer. Unlike cryptic messages and posturing, Phork vehemently declared that he would be coming here weeks ago. Not one single time has he wavered on that thought, not a single damn time.
 

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If he comes to ND, I am buying Phork a vbeer. Unlike cryptic messages and posturing, Phork vehemently declared that he would be coming here weeks ago. Not one single time has he wavered on that thought, not a single damn time.

He'll be getting two vbeers.
 
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