'12 MD ATH Ronald Darby (Florida State Signee)

IrishLax · Dec 18, 2011

NYMIKE6 said:
I really don't see the internet playing a big role in any kids recruitment....It's the sit and wait factor when they are committed to one school finishing up high school that period is dead for them so thats where it is very possible for other schools to sway them away intended school.

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NYMIKE6 · Dec 18, 2011

Lax i remember that case but that is 1 out of thousands of kids. Just saying on the average it has little to no effect on recruits.

IrishBlood81 · Dec 18, 2011

Great, we really need Ronald Darby to be speculated to go elsewhere, along with the Gunner debate! yay

tko · Dec 18, 2011

just unreal. so sick of these 11th hour moves.

ThePiombino · Dec 18, 2011

tko said:
just unreal. so sick of these 11th hour moves.

You and me both, but just remember- the pendulum swings both ways.

IrishSteelhead · Dec 18, 2011

tko said:
just unreal. so sick of these 11th hour moves.

WTF happened? Is this a chicken little scenario, or is there a real threat Darby is flipping?

ThePiombino · Dec 18, 2011

IrishSteelhead said:
WTF happened? Is this a chicken little scenario, or is there a real threat Darby is flipping?

There appears to be some smoke based on his tweet after his visit to Clemson. Something about not knowing what to do and having to pray on it.

SaltyND24 · Dec 18, 2011

I think all turns out in our favor when it's all said and done. Might be a little unnerving like with Tuitt and Lynch last year, but they both came back around. Darby has been with us so long, and it's easy to feel strongly after a visit, but I have faith in both the coaching staff and current recruits like Tee, Chris Brown, & Baratti to convince Darby that ND is the best place for him as a player and a young man.

IrishSteelhead · Dec 18, 2011

ThePiombino said:
There appears to be some smoke based on his tweet after his visit to Clemson. Something about not knowing what to do and having to pray on it.

Oh I read that post. I think Darby has really looked for a reason to go elsewhere based on outside pressure, but he has not, and will not, find that reason. I'm not worried.

irishandy · Dec 18, 2011

Manti Te'o prayed on his recruitment and look where he ended up. Coach Kelly and the staff must make a visit to Darby ASAP to reassure him.

JughedJones · Dec 18, 2011

This is becoming too much..

I don't think I can handle this.

pkt77242 · Dec 18, 2011

JughedJones said:
This is becoming too much..

I don't think I can handle this.

And it is just getting started. Tis the season for poaching recruits (and not just other teams trying to poach our recruits, but also us trying to take other teams).

tko · Dec 18, 2011

Coach Diaco needs to brew up some coffee after the bowl game and close.

ND NYC · Dec 18, 2011

the dead period cant come soon enough!

ps when is exact dates of it?

t3hjc · Dec 18, 2011

ThePiombino said:
There appears to be some smoke based on his tweet after his visit to Clemson. Something about not knowing what to do and having to pray on it.

He hasn't been to Clemson.

The Polish Irishman · Dec 18, 2011

ND NYC said:
the dead period cant come soon enough!

ps when is exact dates of it?

I think the 19th it starts.

GBdomer · Dec 18, 2011

t3hjc said:
He hasn't been to Clemson.

yes he has.

tadman95 · Dec 18, 2011

I've known a lot of Clemson grads thru the years, including an insufferable brother-in-law. I obviously don't know Darby but my perception of him seems like going to Clemson is the proverbial square peg. Just doesn't seem to fit.

t3hjc · Dec 18, 2011

GBdomer said:
yes he has.

Not on an official visit that sparked this latest stuff.

ThePiombino · Dec 18, 2011

t3hjc said:
Not on an official visit that sparked this latest stuff.

Was he recently there on an unofficial?

GoldenIsThyFame · Dec 18, 2011

His OV to Clemson is not January.

Where is all this crap coming from?

BeauBenken · Dec 18, 2011

What makes you guys even first begin to think that that post is about where he wants to go to school?

pkt77242 · Dec 18, 2011

BeauBenken said:
What makes you guys even first begin to think that that post is about where he wants to go to school?

Because we are all insecure teens (or adults whatever) who don't want to be dumped by our girlfriend (Darby) so we read into every little comment she (he) makes. SMH

Whiskeyjack · Dec 18, 2011

First, is there genuine concern over Darby flipping to Clemson? If so, here is a brief comparison of the value offered by ND and Clemson to their African-American football players.

Graduation Success Rate for AA Football Players:
ND- 100% (1st in BCS*)
Clemson- 55% (41st in BCS)

30 year Return for Graduates:
ND- $1,623,900 (2nd in BCS)
Clemson- $922,300 (29th in BCS)

Expected 30 year Return for AA Football Players:
ND- $1,575,183 (2nd in BCS)
Clemson- $507,265 (36th in BCS)

ND offers ~3x more value than Clemson to its African-American football players.

*Rankings compare only schools with football programs in AQ conferences and schools that have made recent BCS appearances. There are a total of 70 schools ranked, so 35th is the median.

Sources:
Degree Value
Graduation Success Rate
Full BCS Rankings for the Above Data

Darby seems like a smart kid. How could he flip from ND to a school that's only offering 1/3 of the value?

I'm still debating posting some ROI stuff in the Bang Bang Notre Dame FB group. It's clear that a lot of our current verbals and players read it, so it might make a real impact. Unfortunately, FB posts allow for virtually no formatting, so it would be difficult to present the information comprehensibly.

So should I hold off on posting? Post something in the FB group? Friend Darby (*shudder*) and send it to him via FB Message?

Who'saWildManNow · Dec 18, 2011

Whiskeyjack said:
First, is there genuine concern over Darby flipping to Clemson? If so, here is a brief comparison of the value offered by ND and Clemson to their African-American football players.

Graduation Success Rate for AA Football Players:
ND- 97% (1st in BCS*)
Clemson- 55% (41st in BCS)

30 year Return for Graduates:
ND- $1,623,900 (2nd in BCS)
Clemson- $922,300 (29th in BCS)

Expected 30 year Return for AA Football Players:
ND- $1,575,183 (2nd in BCS)
Clemson- $507,265 (36th in BCS)

ND offers ~3x more value than Clemson to its African-American football players.

*Rankings compare only schools with football programs in AQ conferences and schools that have made recent BCS appearances. There are a total of 70 schools ranked, so 35th is the median.

Sources:
Degree Value
Graduation Success Rate
Full BCS Rankings for the Above Data

Darby seems like a smart kid. How could he flip from ND to a school that's only offering 1/3 of the value?

I'm still debating posting some ROI stuff in the Bang Bang Notre Dame FB group. It's clear that a lot of our current verbals and players read it, so it might make a real impact. Unfortunately, FB posts allow for virtually no formatting, so it would be difficult to present the information comprehensibly.

So should I hold off on posting? Post something in the FB group? Friend Darby (*shudder*) and send it to him via FB Message?

You could post a short synopsis about what your ROI info is on FB and how it pertains to their future and then post a link to it here?? I don't know but it is certainly great info for a kid that wants to make that 40 year decision.

clashmore_mike · Dec 19, 2011

They talked to his coach. He said Darby just wants to see different places and is a kid. ND coaches visited last week and he thinks it went well, but doesn't know which coaches were there because he himself wasn't there. Darby is still committed to ND.

Sherm Sticky · Dec 19, 2011

He doesn't seem like a Clemson kid to me, but neither did Lateek Townsend...Shrug.

TerryTate · Dec 19, 2011

A lot of drama for something I'm not too concerned about.

GoldenIsThyFame · Dec 19, 2011

SI.com First team All American.

TerryTate · Dec 20, 2011

Guy on II made this post on Darby:

46 Defense:

I'm not the staff, so you can take it for whatever you want.

I've known Ronald for a while and spoke to him for quite a while tonight. I'm not getting into details, but at no point in that conversation did I get a vibe that he is anything but 100% Irish.

The football part of the conversation revolved around the fact that he couldn't wait to play in front of 80,000+ fans at Notre Dame, his future teammates and that he hoped Nelson and Gunner committed too.

He's also working out with former All-Pro NFL cornerback Troy Vincent on the weekends to refine his technique at cornerback.

I wouldn't worry about him at all.

Trust it, cool. Don't trust it, fine with me. Just passing it along.

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