Who is likely next?

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Sherm Sticky

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Riddickulous said:
The rest of the class, IMO (some reaches):

Gunner Kiel
Dami Ayoola
Ian Thomas
Ronnie Stanley
Ekanem/Odenigbo
Maybe another outside WR (Payton or Darboh)

Leaving an open spot in next year's class.

Also there's the possibility of some late offers.
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Why do you have Stanley on the list? He hasn't visited yet correct?
 
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He has not visited yet. Will wait till after his season is over is the thought by many.
 
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Gunner Kiel
Alex Carter
Dami Ayoola
Nelson Agholor
Scyhler Miles
Ronnie Stanley
Ian Thomas
Ofeadi Odenigbo
 
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GBdomer said:
Pulling Stanford commits is like picking berries off trees plus his dad went to ND i think its someone we flip.
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If it's anything like I often experience while lathering up in the shower, picking "berries" off can be somewhat difficult. #tryingoutabrazillianwax
 
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GBdomer said:
Yes sir.
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He was a first round NFL pick was he not??

EDIT: pick 17, round 1, 1993

Had 27 career picks, not too shabby.

Finally looked him up on google, he was at ND from '89 to '92 instead of '90 to '93.

Oh how my 8 year old self loved that '93 team.
 
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Really need at least Stanley or some other O-Lineman [two would be better, but....]. If Kelly goes with just one more, and if the class doesn't fill, then Golic comes back as the other needed lineman, but there has to be a space left.

People talk about Perkins' decision giving us an extra slot---well, yes and no. One thing that it does is leave us with NO speed linebackers in the class [yet]. THAT I believe makes TWO such supermen a valuable target. Odenigbo PLEASE!. But hopefully Ekanem too.

We've all seen what our speed deficit on the outside edge means in modern warfare. Ben Councell, hopefully, will put some stop to that. Maybe Hercules can do some good there too. But we need SPEED. We probably can't keep translating Jamoris into a speed linebacker at halftime every game. We're going to need him "back there" to try to somehow replace Harrison The Great.
 
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Old Man Mike said:
Really need at least Stanley or some other O-Lineman [two would be better, but....]. If Kelly goes with just one more, and if the class doesn't fill, then Golic comes back as the other needed lineman, but there has to be a space left.
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OMM, are you taking Jordan Prestwood into account with your OL numbers? Just making sure you didn't leave him out since he transferred late.
 
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Rack Em said:
OMM, are you taking Jordan Prestwood into account with your OL numbers? Just making sure you didn't leave him out since he transferred late.
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He's got Prestwood. OLs are a frequent topic with OMM. He understands it takes time for OLs to develop. They don't just step in like Lynch or Tuitt. And he understands there will be attrition so you need a bunch of them.
 
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GBdomer said:
Gunner Kiel
Alex Carter
Dami Ayoola
Nelson Agholor
Scyhler Miles
Ronnie Stanley
Ian Thomas
Ofeadi Odenigbo
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I could see that, but I would replace Carter with either Payton or McNamara, and I don't see us taking Thomas if Agholor commits first.

I'll go with:

Gunner Kiel
Dami Ayoola
Nelson Agholor
Schyler Miles
Ideadi Odenigbo
Taylor McNamara
Jordan Payton

I'd like us to land another OL, but I don't think it happens. Golic comes back and we bring in one hell of an OL class next year which Elmer already kicked off.
 
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Carter would be a good steal from the Cardinal. I would like it to be Noor Davis though.

I still think Odenigbo is next.
 
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The trenches are so crucial. We could be average anywhere else (except maybe QB) and still win a lot of football game. That's why teams like Wisconsin are always pretty good. Obviously we want to be elite everywhere on the field, but the trenches has been the weakness under Weis and what sunk his ship. Kelly has clearly made it his priority. I like.
 
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BGIF said:
He's got Prestwood. OLs are a frequent topic with OMM. He understands it takes time for OLs to develop. They don't just step in like Lynch or Tuitt. And he understands there will be attrition so you need a bunch of them.
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I figured as much.
 
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Just my opinion but I feel that list that GB made is fairly accurate but Id replace it with a few bigger names.
 
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AdmiralBackhand said:
Carter would be a good steal from the Cardinal. I would like it to be Noor Davis though.

I still think Odenigbo is next.
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Man, i'm still disapointed that Davis verballed to Stanford. That kid has some amazing skills. I wish him the best no matter what, but I really wish he would reconsider. We could really use him in our LB corp.
 
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If I had to guess, one of these four is next:

- Dami Ayoola
- Jordan Payton
- Gunner Kiel
- Taylor McNamara
 
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To Rack'em et al: Most programs "take" four O-Line per year for fairly simple reasons. If you do, you will have about 16 total guys to work with, four of whom will be red-shirting/developing. That gives you 12 guys to form a comfortable two-deep [i.e. Ten players; none freshmen]. Ten decent "hits" at O-Line out of Twelve shots is a pretty high success rate and you might well not get it.

Run our own recent recruits through your reasoning here and see how comfortable you'd be after next year with "only" ZMartin, Watt, Lombard, NMartin, Nichols, Hegarty, Prestwood, Hanratty, Heggie, Carrico, and Decker, Harrell, and maybe no one else from this year's class to work with. SOME of those names look pretty good but few are proven at all. Remember that we want at least EIGHT of them to be able to play, as Kelly says, "Championship football". Some, frankly, DON't look too hot at the moment.

Elite programs would like to have more to work with to minimize risk-taking plus transfers plus injuries [a BIG deal with linemen] in this vital area. Stanley and someone like Armstead or Banner or several other possibilities would make this a lot more relaxed for the staff. We need to remember that players like Heggie and Carrico are late position shifters, and Nichols might be injury prone. Toss in a couple of "Cave" like tragedies and you're hurting where you can stand it the least.

People saying that Springman or Hounshell or Jarron Jones will "just move over" have no concept of what they are talking about. Becoming a good working-as-a-fivesome O-Lineman is not a weekend hobby. We need an abundance of elite personnel dedicated immediately to the tasks of the O-Line to be great there. I'm a broken record on this, but my brothers were all linemen, and they showed me what that took to be good at it.
 
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My guess is T Point is alluding to Banner, that would be a bigger name quite literally.
 
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Regarding our OL depth:

If Golic gets a 5Y, we'll be at 14 OL for 2012, which is the minimum I could see the staff being willing to move forward with. Add in a 3rd 2012 OL like Stanley, and we're at 15, which I'd be comfortable with. Toss in a 4th (Banner?) and we're at the ideal 16.

I agree with OMM that prudence dictates taking 4 OL per year, but the vagaries of recruiting being what they are, it's not always possible. I'd be amazed if we didn't end up with at least one more 2012 OL, and 15 total OL for 2012 is a number I can live with.
 
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And, given the plums on the tree branches, one more is probably all we'll get.

It's important to remember that Golic getting a fifth year means one less scholarship now, though. He's not free.

Also, it's the year following that this year's lineman class is all about. That year would then see ZMartin, Watt, and Golic leave. They therefore SHOULD be replaced by three others THIS year. [ALL of whom would be "hits" just like they were]
 
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