'12 SC WR Chris Brown (Notre Dame Man)

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Thanks but don't like the color reference.... a simple ND's grad rate > SCar would have been suffice.

should take that out of ur thing, leave that to the coaches


WhiskeyJack took two public studies one addressing Graduation Rates and one looking at the Return on Investment on degrees from various institutions and combined their data.

The NCAA study on Graduation Rates has been conducted for years. The NCAA breaks out the numbers into subgroups by gender and ethnicity because of the poor record of many institutions in the graduation of nonwhites and nonmales. The study put pressure on institutions to improve their performance.

WhiskeyJack didn't create the categories, the NCAA and the Feds did.

Each year around bowl season, The New York Times, Boston Globe, Indianapolis Star, and other papers run articles on the disparity of graduation rates among the football powers. Various writers cite the same NCAA data WhiskeyJack used and note that most of the ranked schools do such a poor job graduating their student athletes that their teams should be bowl INELIGIBLE. While the NCAA looks at several subgroups, the writers (and WhiskeyJack) cite the two largest subgroups for football athletes, Black and White.

WhiskeyJack went beyond the polls and trophies and is holding these universities accountable for the basic commitment they make each year to 18 year old and their parents - to provide those young men with a solid education to take them through life.

He documents their track record with that commitment and the quality of that education in terms of lifetime earning power. Eliminating the subgroups would misrepresent the basic inequity which exists in far too many institutions.
 

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WhiskeyJack took two public studies one addressing Graduation Rates and one looking at the Return on Investment on degrees from various institutions and combined their data.

The NCAA study on Graduation Rates has been conducted for years. The NCAA breaks out the numbers into subgroups by gender and ethnicity because of the poor record of many institutions in the graduation of nonwhites and nonmales. The study put pressure on institutions to improve their performance.

WhiskeyJack didn't create the categories, the NCAA and the Feds did.

Each year around bowl season, The New York Times, Boston Globe, Indianapolis Star, and other papers run articles on the disparity of graduation rates among the football powers. Various writers cite the same NCAA data WhiskeyJack used and note that most of the ranked schools do such a poor job graduating their student athletes that their teams should be bowl INELIGIBLE. While the NCAA looks at several subgroups, the writers (and WhiskeyJack) cite the two largest subgroups for football athletes, Black and White.

WhiskeyJack went beyond the polls and trophies and is holding these universities accountable for the basic commitment they make each year to 18 year old and their parents - to provide those young men with a solid education to take them through life.

He documents their track record with that commitment and the quality of that education in terms of lifetime earning power. Eliminating the subgroups would misrepresent the basic inequity which exists in far too many institutions.

I have no doubt that solid facts were stated in Whiskey's post, but my only concern was the reference regarding ethnicity. I believe everyone is aware of the growing concern behind programs bringing in Football players rather that student athletes.....I just don't see the need to read about it now. Just my thoughts....but nonetheless...Outstanding research Whiskey!
 

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I am for giving Mr. Brown an honorary Notre Dame degree right now. If only all the parents out there in football land were as on the ball as he is. Applause, Sir.
 

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Mr. Brown you are a class act. We all appreciate hearing from you and I am so glad that we have Chris on board.
 

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Mr. Brown thanks for being here you are like ndcoltsfan2010 said "a class act." I have a quick question: Has Chris been invited to the North Carolina vs South Carolina Shrine game? If so will he play in the game?
 
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Mr. Brown thanks for being here you are like ndcoltsfan2010 said "a class act." I have a quick question: Has Chris been invited to the North Caroline vs South Caroline Shrine game? If so will he play in the game?

Sweet Caroline, oh oh oh
 

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Mr. Brown thanks for being here you are like ndcoltsfan2010 said "a class act." I have a quick question: Has Chris been invited to the North Caroline vs South Caroline Shrine game? If so will he play in the game?

Chris was not selected for that game. The say it was due to his injury but he was a bit upset.
 

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Chris was not selected for that game. The say it was due to his injury but he was a bit upset.
That's not right...Chris deserves to be in that game regardless of an injury. Hopefully he continues to play well, stays healthy and a player won''t be able to attend giving Chris a shot.
 
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That's not right...Chris deserves to be in that game regardless of an injury. Hopefully he continues to play well, stays healthy and a player won''t be able to attend giving Chris a shot.

Thanks, that would be nice though

Yes hopefully a spot will open up and Chris can put his skills on display. The Shrine Bowl really helped one of our committs last year, Ben Councell, who was greatly underrated by all the recruiting services and then jumped way up in the rankings after his performance in that game.
 

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The thing I noticed about Chris is how smooth he is. He is bigger than I thought too. I think he will see the field some next year.
 

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Thanks Mr. Brown. Some great stuff there.

How come the video is so choppy?

I am using a terrible video capture software. Don't want to order actual video until I consolidate all his games and hopefully I won't be finished until they win state.
 

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He has got some serious hops.

Thats why I included that clip. Chris was like "dad why did you include that clip....I got smashed". I stated that "did u see how high you got up, if you would have one handed that one I would've sent it to ESPN" Lol.....but you did get smashed! Go to love it
 

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The thing I noticed about Chris is how smooth he is. He is bigger than I thought too. I think he will see the field some next year.

I would like him to be on the field some next year, but I actually think a redshirt year would be beneficial. He is working out big time to put the pounds on. After he comes back from Bahamas in December (track) I plan on getting him matched up with a personal trainer. I think he can get to 205 by May.
 

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I would like him to be on the field some next year, but I actually think a redshirt year would be beneficial. He is working out big time to put the pounds on. After he comes back from Bahamas in December (track) I plan on getting him matched up with a personal trainer. I think he can get to 205 by May.

I think that would be the hardest part to take for me as a player is not being able to play right away at the college level. You have played your whole life and have always been the best. Then you go to college and you have to watch other players play, it would just be hard for me. Anyways, at least you understand the benefits of a redshirt. Have the coaches given any advice to Chris on where they want his weight to be when he comes in?
 

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I think that would be the hardest part to take for me as a player is not being able to play right away at the college level. You have played your whole life and have always been the best. Then you go to college and you have to watch other players play, it would just be hard for me. Anyways, at least you understand the benefits of a redshirt. Have the coaches given any advice to Chris on where they want his weight to be when he comes in?


They stated that his current weight wouldn't be counted towards him but the fact that ND and his HS runs the same type of offense is a plus
 

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I'm not saying this because you're Chris' dad, but this is not the film of a 3 star player. He looks really, really fast. Hell, I love seeing him carry out those blocks like it was nobody's business...even when the play was away from him. I hope he does that every single time.

That whole 5+ minutes is full of good stuff and he missed a lot of this season. It's pretty crazy.
 

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I'm not saying this because you're Chris' dad, but this is not the film of a 3 star player. He looks really, really fast. Hell, I love seeing him carry out those blocks like it was nobody's business...even when the play was away from him. I hope he does that every single time.

That whole 5+ minutes is full of good stuff and he missed a lot of this season. It's pretty crazy.

Agreed. Very excited about Chris. Thanks for sharing, Mr. Brown.
 

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Hey did anyone notice how fast this kid is? Probably just me.....

LOL
 
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