Lane Kiffin charged with failure to monitor

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whoa.

Who thinks Haden is jumping for joy in his office right now? Kiffy has to get a show-cause right?!
 

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A show-cause penalty is an order saying that a coach involved in major rules violations at a university's athletic program may not be hired by any other NCAA member institutions without permission from the Infractions Committee for a set period of time. If a university seeks to hire such a coach, they must "show cause" as to why they should not be penalized for hiring him. Most schools will not even consider hiring a coach with a show-cause penalty in effect; hence the show-cause order effectively blacklists him from the collegiate coaching ranks for the duration of the penalty, and many coaches who are given such a penalty never coach again, even after the expiration of the penalty. The penalty is intended to follow a coach for violations that he had a role in committing.

Basically it could just give Haden an excuse to wash his hands of Kiffin and bring in his own coach.
 
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Show-cause is basically the death sentence for every coach I've ever seen get one.
 

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The folks over at wearesc seem to think the NCAA decided this because Kiffin is a SC guy and they are out to bring them all down.
 

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And their names are ... ?
Wikipedia:
Men's Basketball

Todd Bozeman - Former head coach for the California Golden Bears, who had paid for a player's parents to watch their son play and lied about it to school and NCAA officials. He was forced to resign in 1996 and was handed an eight-year show-cause penalty, which expired in 2004. He now coaches the Morgan State Bears; to date, he is the only Division I men's head basketball coach to have ever gotten another head coaching job after being hit with a show-cause.

Clem Haskins - Former head coach for the Minnesota Golden Gophers, who was guilty of paying a tutor to write papers for players on the team; he also lied to the NCAA about those payments and encouraged his players to lie as well. For that he was hit with a seven-year show-cause penalty. This penalty expired in 2007, but Haskins has yet to return to collegiate coaching.

Dave Bliss - Former head coach for the Baylor Bears and the central figure in the scandal that engulfed the program in 2003, starting with the murder of New Mexico transfer Patrick Dennehy by former Baylor player Carlton Dotson that June. In the wake of Dennehy's death, it was revealed that Bliss had paid tuition for Dennehy and another Baylor player. Bliss lied to investigators about the payments, and worse yet, encouraged players and assistant coaches to lie. Bliss went so far as to suggest that the players tell investigators and law enforcement that Dennehy had paid for his tuition by dealing drugs. One of his assistants taped these conversations and sent them to the NCAA; the tapes later found their way to the media. Dotson's estranged wife and the mother of another Baylor player also reported widespread abuse of marijuana and alcohol by players that neither Bliss, his staff, nor the Baylor athletic department ever addressed. Bliss was forced to resign; and in 2005 was hit with a ten-year show-cause penalty, effective until 2015. This stands as the longest show-cause penalty ever given to a head basketball coach. Two of his assistants were also given show-cause penalties of five and seven years, respectively. The assistant who taped the conversations, Abar Rouse, escaped NCAA punishment, but has been effectively blackballed by the coaching fraternity; his only coaching job since the scandal was one year as a graduate assistant at a Division II school.

Kelvin Sampson - Former head coach of the Oklahoma Sooners and the Indiana Hoosiers, who was guilty of making impermissible cell phone calls to recruits. He landed Oklahoma on probation before leaving for Indiana in 2006. When he repeated the violations at Indiana, he was forced to resign from that institution in 2008. That same year, the NCAA gave Sampson a five-year show-cause penalty, effective until 2013. Sampson is now an assistant with the Milwaukee Bucks.

Rob Senderoff – Former assistant at Indiana under Sampson who was found to have made many of the impermissible calls to recruits. He resigned in 2007, but was rehired by Kent State, where he had served as an assistant for five years before joining Sampson at IU, before the NCAA announced its findings. Senderoff was hit with a 30-month show-cause in November 2008; since Kent State had already hired him, the school could keep him on its staff, and chose to do so. After Geno Ford left for Bradley after the 2010–11 season, Senderoff was named as interim head coach and then permanent head coach. His show-cause expired on May 25, 2011.

Neil McCarthy - Former basketball coach at New Mexico State, who was fired before the 1997-98 season due to concerns about his players' poor academic performance. During a deposition for a wrongful-termination suit, McCarthy admitted under oath that he'd agreed to hire a junior-college coach as an assistant if two of his players came to New Mexico State. This triggered an investigation which revealed the junior-college coach had helped the players with their coursework and exams. In 2001, the NCAA gave McCarthy a five-year show-cause order, effective until 2006. The junior-college coach, who had been hired as an assistant before being fired with the rest of McCarthy's staff, was hit with a 10-year show-cause order. As of 2010, McCarthy has not returned to coaching.

Women's Basketball

Al Barbre - The head coach for the Lamar University women's basketball team in the early 1990s. Barbre's program was the subject of an NCAA investigation shortly after a record-breaking 1990-91 season. He was found guilty of making illegal payments to players and received a five-year show-cause penalty when Lamar was placed on probation late in 1992. Barbre has not been a head coach at an NCAA institution since.

Football

Willie Anderson - The recruiting coordinator for Oklahoma State in the late 1980s, Anderson was given a 12-year show-cause penalty when the Cowboys landed on probation in January 1989, after the NCAA ruled him guilty of making cash payments to players. Anderson had been previously implicated in major recruiting violations at Clemson when that school landed on probation earlier in the decade. After his penalty was served, Anderson did not return to college football.

Todd McNair - The running backs coach at the University of Southern California under Pete Carroll, McNair was found guilty of providing false information to the NCAA and covering up rules violations involving All-American running back Reggie Bush in 2004 and 2005. McNair retained his position after Carroll left and was replaced by Lane Kiffin, despite NCAA allegations against him. When he received a one-year show-cause penalty in 2010, USC did not renew his contract after it expired. McNair appealed the penalty, but it was upheld in April of 2011.
 

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Well...shall I post it again?

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Hmm. That's too bad. I was really looking forward to watching Kiffin slowly drive this program into the ground.
 

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No one should cheer this. Let's hope Kiffin stays at SC for as long as possible.
 

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No one should cheer this. Let's hope Kiffin stays at SC for as long as possible.

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I know, I know. The rivalry is best when we're both good, blah blah blah.

USC will never be bad, even with the sanctions and the Curse of Kiffin, but I'm looking forward to kicking them while they're down for a few more years. We need some karmic justice to level out the last decade... then they can rebound again.
 

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For USC to be bad all that needs to happen is:

1. NFL team in LA
2. UCLA get a really good coach

The problem is they will attract all elite talent from So. Cal as long as UCLA is down.
 

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Found this on wearesc about ol' kiffy. Unbelievable, I still can’t believe they think that Kiffy is a good coach. Anyone would be an upgrade, this may be a GOOD thing for U$C.

"So serious question... in the scenario that Kiffin gets railroaded by the NCAA, who do you think takes over as coach? John Gruden? Urban Meyer? Mark Richt? Are there any coaches out there that you all would consider an upgrade over Kiffin?"
 

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Didn't the Ohio State hoops coach get a show cause order for paying players, 2005-ish?
 

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Am I the only one who noticed the Lamar WOMEN'S basketball coach got a show-cause for making illegal payments? Excuse me while I s-hit my pants laughing.
 

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...someone help me understand. I get Show-cause

...but he's already on staff at SC, and was hired, I think, before the investigation even started at Ten.

Whats the application in that case?
 
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I'm torn on this one (whether or not I would like him fired). First, I hate Kiffy, he is a complete douche bag. I think he sucks as a coach, and for that reason I believe he has the ability to run the program into the ground. On the other hand, he and his staff are very strong recruiters, although they will certainly be handcuffed for the next few years. Best case, this show cause rap further hinders his ability to bring in top flight talent, and his "god given abilities" for coaching lands them a few 3-4 win seasons. I hate U$C w a f****** passion!
 

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LOL at Kiffin on Mike and Mike just now. Golic said something about seeing him in South Bend for the night game, Kiffin replied with "I see that you guys made sure it was a night game, so it'd be 20 degrees cooler." What a pansy.
 

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LOL at Kiffin on Mike and Mike just now. Golic said something about seeing him in South Bend for the night game, Kiffin replied with "I see that you guys made sure it was a night game, so it'd be 20 degrees cooler." What a pansy.

really???? wow!!!! he absolutely blows my mind everytime i hear that dbag talk...such an arrogant piece of trash!!! thinking of excuses already...i guess last year at USC, ND changed the weather forecast too??
 

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I can't believe Kiffin he is an absolute joke I wonder if an when USC will get rid of him
 

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I just don't think Kiffin is Haden's kind of guy.

Haden is going to right the SC ship and get it back on track. Say what you will about Pat Haden - I hated him as an ND commentator and I am biased against him as a former SC QB, but I think he is a very smart stand-up guy with a lot of integrity. He is a very good Catholic and I think he is going to try to do things the right way at SC.

I don't see Haden keeping Kiffin past this year regardless of what happens with this Tennessee drama. I think Haden will build this program back up and I hope he does it the right way. It would be great to see SC and ND on top of the college football heap for a long, long time. It has been a long time since both programs have been at peak performance at the same time and it would be great for college football if the rivalry went to the level of #1 vs #2 on a regular basis.

Don't get me wrong - I hate SC with a passion instilled in me since I was a child. But I want to beat them when they are on top. Beating them during the time of sanctions is great, no doubt, but beating them when they have nothing to use as an excuse would be even sweeter.
 
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