Brian Kelly Revisited (RIP BOZO)

Brian Kelly Revisited

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Jiggafini19Deux said:
This was true prior to Covid/NIL/Portal. I think he underestimated how much things were going to change.

Whoever they hire to replace him, I'm really interested to see how they do in the first few years, especially considering what Coach Free has cooking at ND.

Imagine both ND and LSU thriving after Kelly leaves them. Ouch.
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I also think going into something with the idea in mind that you're not going to have to work as hard (especially in the hyper-competitive, cutthroat world of CFB) is a loser's mentality and you'll find the stench of mediocrity infects everything you do. "Choose hard" is a killer mindset much more conducive to elite results.
 
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Bane said:
I also think going into something with the idea in mind that you're not going to have to work as hard (especially in the hyper-competitive, cutthroat world of CFB) is a loser's mentality and you'll find the stench of mediocrity infects everything you do. "Choose hard" is a killer mindset much more conducive to elite results.
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I can't say for sure that Kelly thought he wasn't going to have to work as hard. He certainly figured he would have a better opportunity to win a National Championship and more or less said as much. At the time, everything lined up to him being correct. It was well documented that Saban, Miles and Orgeron all won National Championships at LSU.

I honestly don't believe, having experienced Willingham at ND, that any of these programs sell themselves, recruit themselves or win themselves. You have to have a group of a few hundred people working together toward the same goal.
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
I can't say for sure that Kelly thought he wasn't going to have to work as hard. He certainly figured he would have a better opportunity to win a National Championship and more or less said as much. At the time, everything lined up to him being correct. It was well documented that Saban, Miles and Orgeron all won National Championships at LSU.

I honestly don't believe, having experienced Willingham at ND, that any of these programs sell themselves, recruit themselves or win themselves. You have to have a group of a few hundred people working together toward the same goal.
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I think he definitely thought he wasn't going to have to work as hard in recruiting, which he doesn't really care for. Recruiting is a grind no matter where you are because someone is always trying to take the guy you want. LSU does sell itself to a number of in state recruits, but that's not infallible and good recruiters at elite programs like Bama, UGA, etc. in the South can come in steal out of your backyard if you're not putting in the work.
 
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He was fine for what nd needed at the time. Freeman has already won 3 bigger games than kelly did in his entire tenure. If there was ever an actual "it's not you, it's me" situation, it would be this.
 
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Kingbish01 said:
I don't know, defense was always suspect that year. As close as ND was to being 11-1 or 12-0, they were just as close to being 7-5 or 8-4
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I think the issue was coaching, specifically BVG. 7 of the 11 Defensive starters played in the NFL and 2nd stringers who played rotational snaps included Jerry Tillery and Matthias Farley. The talent was there.
 
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Jiggafini19Deux said:
I can't say for sure that Kelly thought he wasn't going to have to work as hard. He certainly figured he would have a better opportunity to win a National Championship and more or less said as much. At the time, everything lined up to him being correct. It was well documented that Saban, Miles and Orgeron all won National Championships at LSU.

I honestly don't believe, having experienced Willingham at ND, that any of these programs sell themselves, recruit themselves or win themselves. You have to have a group of a few hundred people working together toward the same goal.
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I agree that Kelly thinking “the road will be easier at LSU” =/= “I won’t have to work as hard”

The problem, I think, is that he likely thought “if I do the same things I did at ND, the caliber of kids attracted to LSU and the football-factory mindset will be the difference.”

So while likely being too professional to entertain the idea of actually “taking it easy,” he likely ignored some of the things that held him back at ND, figuring LSU was at least the great equalizer, or else the great boost he needed…. And that was why he ultimately couldn’t get over the hump at ND. He was blind to his shortcomings at times, and instead of going above and beyond when his program was so close to the top, he tried to get everyone else around him to do it.

It sounds like he felt the same at LSU… “LSU is LSU, these kids will want to come here and my program will work as long as everyone else works hard.”

But as we all learned in the hit Disney classic “Remember the Titans”: attitude reflects leadership. If BK isn’t working harder than everyone else in the building, you’ve already lowered the ceiling.
 
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IrishLion said:
The problem, I think, is that he likely thought “if I do the same things I did at ND, the caliber of kids attracted to LSU and the football-factory mindset will be the difference.”
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Yep. There was a pretty good deep-dive in The Athletic shortly after his firing with a lot of former staffers and such saying he basically brought a lot of his systems (and some people) from Notre Dame to LSU and it just didn’t work there.

I doubt it was lack of trying. These guys work pretty hard. But Notre Dame and LSU are such different places - and each culturally unique in their ways even compared to most other big-time jobs - that you can see why grafting Notre Dame systems and expectations onto LSU might not be a winning recipe.
 
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irishu said:
Why do people still get a hard-on every time Kelly is name dropped?
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Probably for the same reason people love watching their rivals lose in every sport. He chose to leave, and we are better off. So, it's funny.
 
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If LSU didn’t allow BK come see his son on senior day that’s bs. Again “if” true, I hope LSU football has a cyber attack that reveals everything they have ever done, a hurricane or tornado hits only the stadium and damages beyond repair and the state hits a budget crisis and can’t afford a lot items at the school.

I understand you are pissed that you LSU fucked up.
You don’t hold back a father from participating in senior day.
 
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irishff1014 said:
If LSU didn’t allow BK come see his son on senior day that’s bs. Again “if” true, I hope LSU football has a cyber attack that reveals everything they have ever done, a hurricane or tornado hits only the stadium and damages beyond repair and the state hits a budget crisis and can’t afford a lot items at the school.

I understand you are pissed that you LSU fucked up.
You don’t hold back a father from participating in senior day.
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🙄 fuck both of them. “Kenzel”…what a fucking white trash, bridge and tunnel douche. Piece of shit has no business taking up a spot on the roster.

Why didn’t he take up “for his boy, BK”
when BK “allegedly” was “involved” with a BR realtor that led to a divorce filing?

White trash“famulee.”
 
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forkbeard3777 said:
fuck both of them. “Kenzel”…what a fucking white trash, bridge and tunnel douche. Piece of shit has no business taking up a spot on the roster.

Why didn’t he take up “for his boy, BK”
when BK “allegedly” was “involved” with a BR realtor that led to a divorce filing?

White trash“famulee.”
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Slightly off.

He is far from white trash. He is silver spoon.

Kenzel could probably take the SAT hungover and score higher than the 10 best LSU DBs of all time combined (we know Morris Claibourne would add a 0 to the team’s score).

He is definitely a douche, but more of a smarmy, elitist, “my dad is a lawyer” type douche.


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IrishSteelhead said:
Slightly off.

He is far from white trash. He is silver spoon.

Kenzel could probably take the SAT hungover and score higher than the 10 best LSU DBs of all time combined (we know Morris Claibourne would add a 0 to the team’s score).

He is definitely a douche, but more of a smarmy, elitist, “my dad is a lawyer” type douche.


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Ever hear the phrase “money doesn’t buy class?” Kenzel acts like a big dog in New Buffalo as opposed to Jackson, WY, Aspen/Vail, Santa Fe, Santa Barbara and the like.

I don’t recall bumping into “Kenzel” at J Press, Barker Black, and the like. He’s a loser built like a marshmallow just like his (alleged) two-timing father (and I’m intentionally leaving out the Greg Brooks / Declan stuff).

Nice mustache you low rent fanook.

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forkbeard3777 said:
As bad as our offensive line is, I’d put that piece of shit at RB and run iso every play against OU next week.
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As fun as that sounds, you need to beat Oklahoma. LSU is talented enough to have a final week of the season heater if motivated.


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