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[NDWarrior]

Sneaky but not shocked to hear this: caption Seattle Seahawks reportedly helped Alabama pull off an incredibly shady move

 

[BobbyMac]

Recent articles suggest Bullough is who extended the offer to several current recruits. I thought the same as you and was surprised because he was a GA.

MB isn't a GA. He timed out at that position.

He is the assistant LB Coach.

The reason he could offer and travel is because Golden was off the road recouping from surgery. You are allowed to have X amount of coaches on the road at any given time. MB was filling in for Golden.

 

[GoIrish41]

MB isn't a GA. He timed out at that position.

He is the assistant LB Coach.

The reason he could offer and travel is because Golden was off the road recouping from surgery. You are allowed to have X amount of coaches on the road at any given time. MB was filling in for Golden.

Thanks Bobby

 

[BobbyMac]

Thanks Bobby

 

[IRISHDODGER]

Very good coach. I hate losing good coaches. Though, I like Bullough and think he’ll do well.

Exactly. Brice figured ND would lose either O’Leary to the NFL or lose Bullough to BC.

 

[IrishSpartan]

So is Zibby an option for GA?

 

[GoldenAura]

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

One less ripple in the pond.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

 

[notredomer23]

The 12 UCLA football fans are not going to take this one well. Yikes of a hire, IMO.

 

[Ndaccountant]

The 12 UCLA football fans are not going to take this one well. Yikes of a hire, IMO.

This will end well.

 

[Katzenboyer]

The 12 UCLA football fans are not going to take this one well. Yikes of a hire, IMO.

Yeah. That is NOT the guy you want to be hiring if you're trying to argue you're serious about football.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Under the current transfer portal rules, UCLA could face a mass exodus without a good way to replace the players they lose. At some point with the current rules, there’s going to be a team unable to field an active roster for their season.

Maybe this is just a survival tactic to preserve the roster.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Under the current transfer portal rules, UCLA could face a mass exodus without a good way to replace the players they lose. At some point with the current rules, there’s going to be a team unable to field an active roster for their season.

Maybe this is just a survival tactic to preserve the roster.

I Think this is exactly what it is and it's going to be what programs start to lean toward doing going forward. You promote an assistant already on staff to keep as much of the program intact until something gives with the Portal and there is some kind of revisitation to the rules.

Foster is a 44 year old alum that played in the NFL, has never been an offensive coordinator and has spent all but one year of his coaching career at UCLA (2016 at Texas Tech) under both Jim Mora Jr and Chip Kelly. I'm not in a position to overreact one way or another about the hire, but I can understand it. I'd assume most here would too when every time an assistant coaching position opens up at ND names like Tom Zbikowski, Chris Watt, etc. get thrown about.

It's possible nobody else wanted the job and so many of these clickbait articles we see are not even listing viable candidates to begin with. I think Feldman and most of these other guys may as well be doing copy and paste for most job openings.

 

[stlnd01]

Under the current transfer portal rules, UCLA could face a mass exodus without a good way to replace the players they lose. At some point with the current rules, there’s going to be a team unable to field an active roster for their season.

Maybe this is just a survival tactic to preserve the roster.

The head-coach-departure portal rule is just brutal.

Not only do you have to hire a new coach and staff - usually a good one if they’re being hired away - late in the cycle, but then other programs can pillage your roster with no recourse.

It needs to change for everyone’s sanity. But until it does I think you’ll see more programs opting to promote from within in the name of stability.

 

[mrmcgrail]

I don't know why anyone would be a college coach in this climate

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I don't know why anyone would be a college coach in this climate

I think the exodus is just getting started unless they make some rule changes, but even then, it might not be enough to stop it.

 

[Luckylucci]

I think what we're seeing is the start of the bigger/elite football schools consolidating coaching talent. For the big/elite programs, the pay is worth it. And, the staffs are big enough that the crappy responsibilities that come with today's climate are passed down.

 

[stlnd01]

I think what we're seeing is the start of the bigger/elite football schools consolidating coaching talent. For the big/elite programs, the pay is worth it. And, the staffs are big enough that the crappy responsibilities that come with today's climate are passed down.

Yeah. I understand that Chip Kelly doesn’t like NIL and had reasons to leave UCLA before he probably got fired, and is close to Ryan Day, etc etc.
But the idea of the head coach of a program of UCLA’s caliber being poached by another school in the same conference to be an assistant? I’m not sure I remember ever seeing that before.

 

[Ndaccountant]

I think the exodus is just getting started unless they make some rule changes, but even then, it might not be enough to stop it.

In the end, there are only so many other coaching positions. With the amount of money at play, people will always be there. I think the current head coach to coordinator moves are not a signal of some significant shift. I do think there are some coaches that will change, but I think there are many others that will quickly step in and it will become an afterthought.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I think what we're seeing is the start of the bigger/elite football schools consolidating coaching talent. For the big/elite programs, the pay is worth it. And, the staffs are big enough that the crappy responsibilities that come with today's climate are passed down.

Haven't they been doing that already, though? I think we're seeing an acceleration of it to the next level of practice.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

In the end, there are only so many other coaching positions. With the amount of money at play, people will always be there. I think the current head coach to coordinator moves are not a signal of some significant shift. I do think there are some coaches that will change, but I think there are many others that will quickly step in and it will become an afterthought.

It's one of the stranger domino effects we've seen to this point, but it began with Hafley going from Boston College Head coach to NFL Defensive Coordinator, which is somewhat strange. Bill O'Brien goes from freshly hired Ohio State OC to Boston College head coach. Nothing too weird about that. Ohio State hiring Chip Kelly as OC while he's currently holding the UCLA head coaching job is where it gets weird.

"People will always be there", but are they any good at it? I think in this current landscape it's going to take a different kind of guy to be a college head coach. At any level. It's all open season now.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Michigan/Wisconsin: Michigan has hired Wisconsin defensive line coach Greg Scruggs for the same position, sources tell The Michigan Insider.

 

[Ndaccountant]

It's one of the stranger domino effects we've seen to this point, but it began with Hafley going from Boston College Head coach to NFL Defensive Coordinator, which is somewhat strange. Bill O'Brien goes from freshly hired Ohio State OC to Boston College head coach. Nothing too weird about that. Ohio State hiring Chip Kelly as OC while he's currently holding the UCLA head coaching job is where it gets weird.

"People will always be there", but are they any good at it? I think in this current landscape it's going to take a different kind of guy to be a college head coach. At any level. It's all open season now.

The point is that there is a finite number of HC jobs and coordinators. Even if everyone was willing to give up a P4 head coaching role to be a coordinator at top P4 school, there are only so many and the pay incentive will be strong to be a HC. Kelly isn't all that wierd when you factor in he was on the hottest of all hot seats and he was rebuffed from the NFL. The guy simply isn't a head coach and frankly doesn't need the extra few million he would get being one. But that is a unique profile that not many other coaches share.

 

[T-Boone]

Get Goolsby in as a GA. actually, no, get Jaylon Smith in.

 

[Luckylucci]

Haven't they been doing that already, though? I think we're seeing an acceleration of it to the next level of practice.

I think Bama had. But I think we’re seeing it even impact ND. 10 years ago, no way Al Golden isn’t taking a HC gig at a lower P5 school after last season. But, the combination of pay is up so much for an ND coordinator, staff is much larger which makes his recruiting responsibilities less, and he just gets to coach ball. Keeps him here.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

The point is that there is a finite number of HC jobs and coordinators. Even if everyone was willing to give up a P4 head coaching role to be a coordinator at top P4 school, there are only so many and the pay incentive will be strong to be a HC. Kelly isn't all that wierd when you factor in he was on the hottest of all hot seats and he was rebuffed from the NFL. The guy simply isn't a head coach and frankly doesn't need the extra few million he would get being one. But that is a unique profile that not many other coaches share.

There are a finite number of jobs, yes, but how those comes come to be filled could begin to see a shift.

From 2009-2023 Chip Kelly was a head coach in college, the NFL and college again. He "simply isn't a head coach"? I guess if he has decided that it is no longer for him and he just wants to call plays, that's one thing, but to this point he's been nothing but a head coach for over a decade. If the NFL didn't want to have him as an OC the way Green Bay wanted Hafley as a DC then so be it, but you demote yourself to OC from head coach? That's weird.

It's unprecedented for something like the head coach of UCLA to leave to take a coordinator job at Ohio State. Even despite the New Hampshire connection between the two men involved, that doesn't just happen. Even under the unique circumstances, with the connection, and Chip Kelly being an odd person we've not seen that before. I suppose I'd like to know more about the circumstances at UCLA, but I have to believe that we won't see something like this again. I think the circumstances in this situation are just very unique.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I think Bama had. But I think we’re seeing it even impact ND. 10 years ago, no way Al Golden isn’t taking a HC gig at a lower P5 school after last season. But, the combination of pay is up so much for an ND coordinator, staff is much larger which makes his recruiting responsibilities less, and he just gets to coach ball. Keeps him hear.

I do think there are going to be guys who still want to run their own program and will leave coordinator jobs at P4 schools so they can be head coaches at G5 or other P4 schools. There will be the guys who just want to get to the NFL and never look back. Then maybe you have the guys like Denbrock and Golden who just want to stay put until someone fires them or they decide to bail or retire.

Marcus Freeman's coaching tree has barely begun to spread roots and it's already optically looking very good. I just wonder how recruiting and The Portal will test the patience of some of these other guys. Charlie Partridge leaving college ball for the NFL, for example, is a shocker. Hafley leaving BC for the NFL is probably a shocker on a larger scale than Pitt's D Line coach going to the Colts to coach D Line, but the point is those moves are going to start manifesting. I still think there are going to be more of those types of moves. Probably less of situations like what Chip Kelly just did.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

The Jacksonville Jaguars are set to hire University of Tennessee’s Jerry Mack as their new running backs coach, sources tell 247Sports’ Matt Zenitz. Helped Tennessee rank No. 1 nationally in rushing last season. Was previously the OC at Rice and a head coach at North Carolina Central.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

What’s up with Tommy Rees. Took the Browns TE Coach job but is being considered for the UCLA job? I haven’t seen much else on this.