Friends Of The University of Notre Dame (ND's NIL Collective)

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Crazy Balki said:
So on TOS, people were mentioning that the FUND used to have a donate feature on their website, but that has since gone missing.

I reached out to the FUND and asked them how would somebody be able to donate on their site. This was their response:


Okay.....but why?

The whole purpose of the FUND is to provide student athletes with the opportunity partner with charitable organizations and create a network so they can benefit from their image, all while providing them with a stipend. Removing the option to donate online severely limits that prospect, thus reduces the potential for a player to maximize their image.
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Maybe they have secured some other sources of funding which negates the need for online donations? Thats the only thing that initially comes to mind but you would think even in that situation, online donations would still be helpful.
 
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ulukinatme said:
She could be the next Allison Stokke. Parlayed her viral fame and ended up married to Rickie Fowler.

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That body doy. Pretty close to perfection. She was gonna be getting looks one way or another. 1st world problem
 
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Crazy Balki said:
So on TOS, people were mentioning that the FUND used to have a donate feature on their website, but that has since gone missing.

I reached out to the FUND and asked them how would somebody be able to donate on their site. This was their response:


Okay.....but why?

The whole purpose of the FUND is to provide student athletes with the opportunity partner with charitable organizations and create a network so they can benefit from their image, all while providing them with a stipend. Removing the option to donate online severely limits that prospect, thus reduces the potential for a player to maximize their image.
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You think the online one time donations make up a significant portion of their funds?
 
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ulukinatme said:
She says that, but I have a hard time believing someone who became an athletic model for Nike, GoPro, Athleta, and Uniglo, and then later married Rickie Fowler, doesn't enjoy attention and fame. Obviously there will be creepy followers, and that side of things no celebrity likes, but she clearly embraced the viral wave her photos put her on and capitalized on that attention.
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You have to strike while the irons hot!
 
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BoredIrish said:
https://www.si.com/college/2023/06/10/irs-name-image-likeness-collectives-not-tax-exempt

Think this probably has something to do with FUND no longer accepting donations
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I think it's part of the reason.

Another I've heard is that the FUND recently added a few new members to their board, who are billionaires. So that is big money being attached to the FUND and it's probably a helluva lot easier for the FUND to do the paperwork on a few major donations from board members than it is to do paperwork on thousands of smaller donations from a bunch of rando's.
 
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Crazy Balki said:
I think it's part of the reason.

Another I've heard is that the FUND recently added a few new members to their board, who are billionaires. So that is big money being attached to the FUND and it's probably a helluva lot easier for the FUND to do the paperwork on a few major donations from board members than it is to do paperwork on thousands of smaller donations from a bunch of rando's.
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Well I guess I’ll just have to take my Andrew Jackson and stick it in the offering plate for The Pope’s NIL instead of ND’s. Thanks Joe Biden.
 
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Giddyup said:
Interesting article by Kevin White about the state of college athletics as he sees it.

*yea I know… Charlie Weis contract yada
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I'm not reading the entire article, but I think it's obvious college football (at least the power conferences and programs) needs to separate and part ways from the NCAA. With the exception of a handful of basketball programs and a few baseball programs, college football programs fund their entire athletic department. Whether you like it or not, college football has successfully been established as a minor league / farm league system, and it needs to be treated as such. Just drop the "student-athlete" (emphasis on the former) moniker and create a system to let it rule itself.
 
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forkbeard3777 said:
I'm not reading the entire article, but I think it's obvious college football (at least the power conferences and programs) needs to separate and part ways from the NCAA. With the exception of a handful of basketball programs and a few baseball programs, college football programs fund their entire athletic department. Whether you like it or not, college football has successfully been established as a minor league / farm league system, and it needs to be treated as such. Just drop the "student-athlete" (emphasis on the former) moniker and create a system to let it rule itself.
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I mean, when was CFB not a minor league/developmental league for the NFL? The only difference between the proverbial good ole days and now is that the players get to benefit from their play on the field and work off the field.
 
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The round about paying of these athletes is bs. Courts need to be adults and let these athletes be paid by the schools directly and begin contracts.
 
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Irish4life said:
I mean, when was CFB not a minor league/developmental league for the NFL? The only difference between the proverbial good ole days and now is that the players get to benefit from their play on the field and work off the field.
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Yep. People thinking that college football really was ever “amateur” are just lying to themselves. It’s absurd to place high expectations on teams and players, then think they should be happy with a scholarship as the only form of compensation.
 
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forkbeard3777 said:
I'm not reading the entire article, but I think it's obvious college football (at least the power conferences and programs) needs to separate and part ways from the NCAA. With the exception of a handful of basketball programs and a few baseball programs, college football programs fund their entire athletic department. Whether you like it or not, college football has successfully been established as a minor league / farm league system, and it needs to be treated as such. Just drop the "student-athlete" (emphasis on the former) moniker and create a system to let it rule itself.
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I highly doubt that’ll ever happen. Where would they play? Because at that point they wouldn’t be college students. States aren’t going to allow money be spent on scholarships on athletes that never attended class.
 
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irishff1014 said:
I highly doubt that’ll ever happen. Where would they play? Because at that point they wouldn’t be college students. States aren’t going to allow money be spent on scholarships on athletes that never attended class.
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I know, I know...just expressing some frustration with its current state of affairs. Obviously, the players will have to be enrolled in school and participate as "student" athletes - as much of a joke as it sounds for some athletes.
 
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KPENN said:
Yep. People thinking that college football really was ever “amateur” are just lying to themselves. It’s absurd to place high expectations on teams and players, then think they should be happy with a scholarship as the only form of compensation.
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At one point, they most certainly were amateur. It is also a serious issue that scholarships are seen as not suitable compensation. If you want better compensation, go to the better school where the scholarship holds greater value.

The issue is the devaluing scholarships and education for student-athletes.
 
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BeauBenken said:
At one point, they most certainly were amateur. It is also a serious issue that scholarships are seen as not suitable compensation. If you want better compensation, go to the better school where the scholarship holds greater value.

The issue is the devaluing scholarships and education for student-athletes.
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I think the issue is that the value of the education doesn't equate value being generated. With the explosion of value for TV rights, a scholarship just doesn't cut it.
 
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Ndaccountant said:
I think the issue is that the value of the education doesn't equate value being generated. With the explosion of value for TV rights, a scholarship just doesn't cut it.
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I mean, many people go into a lifetime of debt to get an education.

We might have bigger political issues that might need to be addressed if college educations aren’t keeping comparable value with TV rights.

I’d argue growing TV contracts are certainly one of the symptoms of a dying collegiate sports system though.
 
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KPENN said:
Yep. People thinking that college football really was ever “amateur” are just lying to themselves. It’s absurd to place high expectations on teams and players, then think they should be happy with a scholarship as the only form of compensation.
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How many guys on a given team actually go pro? We need to stop acting like these teams have 90% of the 85 man roster that needs treated like a pro player. The facilities, recovery/training, food plans are all even or better than the NFL at these schools already. Before NIL, they were also getting monthly stipends as well.

For 90%+ of the roster, scholarships are incredibly valuable because they aren’t playing in the NFL and they aren’t paying $50k/year in tuition that requires them to take out student loans they’ll never repay. I don’t think you break the entire premise of college athletics because a very small minority have actual value athletically.

I say this as a guy who played small D1 college baseball that had 35 roster spots split between 11.4 scholarships and was extremely thankful I got school paid for by athletics and academic scholarships. Not every person (very much including myself when I was in college) deserves to get paid and we shouldn’t ruin college sports by making it such a black and white argument.
 
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jprue24 said:
Who?

Who does that while also directly assisting in the generation of massive amounts of revenue for a university?
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I’d think most college athletes don’t individually generate hundreds of thousands in revenue. As a collective they might. When you pay for an education, you’re looking at over 100k paid directly to the university.

And believe or not but many have to take out loans that prove to be difficult to handle at a young age without relying on family to assist them.
 
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BeauBenken said:
I’d think most college athletes don’t individually generate hundreds of thousands in revenue. As a collective they might. When you pay for an education, you’re looking at over 100k paid directly to the university.

And believe or not but many have to take out loans that prove to be difficult to handle at a young age without relying on family to assist them.
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...ugh

You are going to pretend that they are just regular old students that get scholarships. I'm only going to point out that I said "assisting" for a reason....again, find me the person going into debt that does that and I will point to a travesty of exploitation. Or don't because it was overall, a nonsense comparison.
 
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I’m not denying that having successful athletics assists a university. Not sure where you’re getting that idea from.
 
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