2023 Transfer QB

[IrishLax]

Arch Manning is a 3* talent. Said it at the time, saying it now. His film was mediocre at best.

 

[NDMatt91]

Arch Manning is a 3* talent. Said it at the time, saying it now. His film was mediocre at best.

I can't speak for the other sites, but IB thought he was overrated, too. They thought he was a top 50-100 player but in no way was he the top-ranked player in the 2023 class.

 

[NDohio]

Rumbling in Longhorn camp???

Arch Manning transfer portal: 5 landing spots for the Texas QB feat. USC, Alabama and more

Texas Longhorns freshman quarterback Arch Manning was one of the most sought-after players in the class of 2023 and was thought to be college football-ready.

www.sportskeeda.com

"We’ll go through the week, and Arch and Maalik will both get a ton of reps,” Sarkisian said. “If the game was being played today, Maalik would start the game, and again, Arch will be ready to go. And like I said before, I have a ton of confidence in Arch. A couple weeks ago, he had a fantastic practice, and so I’m really encouraged by that."

Ooooh...one good practice...glowing review there Sark...

 

[CoachB]

I know it was against Pitt and their second string but that TD throw Angeli had there aren’t 10 QB’s making that throw in college this year

I'm sorry, not trying to be contrarian, but I could make that throw...right now..and I'm in my 30's. Disclosure: I played QB in high school. It was a good throw, but its not like it was all that hard. It's not like it was a rope from 45 yards or something...

Honestly, I was more impressed by his timing. He got the ball out on time and accurate.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

The other Florida schools scare me more in all honesty. UF isn’t going to let Mertz 2.0 happen and NIL might actually come through this time. FSU has been big on acquisition fees and Travis is gone after this year.

Winning games matters. Billy Napier is already on thin ice at Florida. I'd say they need to make something happen in the portal with a QB this offseason if he wants to stick around. That's if they don't bottom out this year first.

Miami lost back to back games and has now won two in a row in OT against subpar Clemson and UVA.

Florida State hosts Miami next weekend. That's about as big of a game for Florida football supremacy as there is. I think FSU is going to beat them and then go down to Gainesville to do bad things to the Gators.

FSU's momentum worries me most because I think they have the best coach of the lot. Cristobal could have 85 Ferraris and wrap half of them around poles. Another guy that proves recruiting is going to get you so far. Still have to be good on the day of the week that matters.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Won't Oregon need a new QB next year too? There will be a lot of competition for Pratt

 

[stlnd01]

Won't Oregon need a new QB next year too? There will be a lot of competition for Pratt

With all the good QBs going into the draft and all the top-tier programs that will be looking to replace them, Pratt would be kinda nuts not to play in college for another year and see what he can get on the NIL/transfer market.

But yeah unless he has a soft spot for Notre Dame for some unknown reason I don't think we should build our hopes and dreams for '24 around him coming here.

 

[NDWarrior]

Won't Oregon need a new QB next year too? There will be a lot of competition for Pratt

All the FL + NIL statements are true, BUT what we don't know and will find out, is if Pratt is motivated by a lot more than just the bag and going home to play a final year. There may be something special in SB that he wants to be part of... Then again, I could be full of dog poop.

 

[Katzenboyer]

That's contingent on TVD leaving early for the draft, which I don't see happening. He's on the fringe of the top 10 QBs in the '24 Draft.

He's better suited to come back in '24, because the '24 QB class is way too stacked.

And Miami hasn't exactly set the world on fire under Cristobal. I don't see this supposedly stacked roster that you claim.

1. TVD should come back to UM, but there are rumors down here that he's checked out and may pursue a transfer elsewhere if he doesn't like his draft feedback. If he leaves, Pratt is almost assuredly going to Coral Gables (if he decides to leave Tulane).

2. Even if Pratt doesn't go to Miami, I would expect FSU, LSU and Bama to back up the Brinks truck for him.

3. Cristobal brought in the #8 class last year, and has brought in high-impact transfers. He's also outside the Top 10 right now for the 2024 class ranking, but they expect to close with 5-6 Top 100 guys. He's absolutely upgrading the talent.

4. Miami made some pretty good coordinator hires in Dawson and Guidry, and they expect both those guys to be back next year. That continuation will be huge, especially on offense, where they looked pretty unstoppable against a very good A&M defense before TVD got hurt/checked out.

Just my .02.

 

[Katzenboyer]

Arch Manning is a 3* talent. Said it at the time, saying it now. His film was mediocre at best.

Especially against very, very poor competition.

 

[Luckylucci]

Arch Manning is a 3* talent. Said it at the time, saying it now. His film was mediocre at best.

But he flip that ball so good

 

[NDWarrior]

1. TVD should come back to UM, but there are rumors down here that he's checked out and may pursue a transfer elsewhere if he doesn't like his draft feedback. If he leaves, Pratt is almost assuredly going to Coral Gables (if he decides to leave Tulane).

2. Even if Pratt doesn't go to Miami, I would expect FSU, LSU and Bama to back up the Brinks truck for him.

3. Cristobal brought in the #8 class last year, and has brought in high-impact transfers. He's also outside the Top 10 right now for the 2024 class ranking, but they expect to close with 5-6 Top 100 guys. He's absolutely upgrading the talent.

4. Miami made some pretty good coordinator hires in Dawson and Guidry, and they expect both those guys to be back next year. That continuation will be huge, especially on offense, where they looked pretty unstoppable against a very good A&M defense before TVD got hurt/checked out.

Just my .02.

I could be wrong but relationships and thinking beyond the bag (BTB!) seem to be how Pratt is oriented, and, again, there's gonna to be a wide-open 12-team playoff with so many more teams - including ND - in the mix so a BTB-thinking QB doesn't have to go to the usual suspects. And ND (even with the weak '24) schedule does have good TV exposure. Only current negative factor for a QB considering ND is the yet-to-be-proven OC and offense. Uh, that's pretty important for a QB... Which is why the remaining games - now not so challenging, at least on paper - are still so important for HS and Grad Transfer recruiting in key positions. ND needs to show the GFs we got something special going on here in SB, not the 1 in 10 3rd down conv. rate (or whatever it currently is?). That's my 2/100.

 

[Katzenboyer]

I could be wrong but relationships and thinking beyond the bag (BTB!) seem to be how Pratt is oriented, and, again, there's gonna to be a wide-open 12-team playoff with so many more teams - including ND - in the mix so a BTB-thinking QB doesn't have to go to the usual suspects. And ND (even with the weak '24) schedule does have good TV exposure. Only current negative factor for a QB considering ND is the yet-to-be-proven OC and offense. Uh, that's pretty important for a QB... Which is why the remaining games - now not so challenging, at least on paper - are still so important for HS and Grad Transfer recruiting in key positions. ND needs to show the GFs we got something special going on here in SB, not the 1 in 10 3rd down conv. rate (or whatever it currently is?). That's my 2/100.

All good points. Just think that if we're going to be battling Pratt, it will most likely be 1) against heavy hitters in the South, 2) all coming off strong seasons offensively. Not saying it's not a fight worth having, or that ND shouldn't put their hat in the ring, but it's going to be a battle and it'll have to come down to differentiating factors from what will be thrown at Pratt's doorstep by the factories south of the Mason Dixon line.

I have no idea what the motivation for the kid will be.

 

[NDWarrior]

All good points. Just think that if we're going to be battling Pratt, it will most likely be 1) against heavy hitters in the South, 2) all coming off strong seasons offensively. Not saying it's not a fight worth having, or that ND shouldn't put their hat in the ring, but it's going to be a battle and it'll have to come down to differentiating factors from what will be thrown at Pratt's doorstep by the factories south of the Mason Dixon line.

I have no idea what the motivation for the kid will be.

100% we're all speculating... Which is one of the more attractive points of this board I would think

 

[CTIDANDREW]

Winning games matters. Billy Napier is already on thin ice at Florida. I'd say they need to make something happen in the portal with a QB this offseason if he wants to stick around. That's if they don't bottom out this year first.

Miami lost back to back games and has now won two in a row in OT against subpar Clemson and UVA.

Florida State hosts Miami next weekend. That's about as big of a game for Florida football supremacy as there is. I think FSU is going to beat them and then go down to Gainesville to do bad things to the Gators.

FSU's momentum worries me most because I think they have the best coach of the lot. Cristobal could have 85 Ferraris and wrap half of them around poles. Another guy that proves recruiting is going to get you so far. Still have to be good on the day of the week that matters.

I mean he took FIU to two straight bowl seasons, and won two Pac 12 championships at Oregon.
He isn't the second coming of Jimmy Johnson for that program, but he has the goods to make them a consistent top 20 program.
They haven't been a consistent top 20 program for 20 years.

He does the most important thing (stacking talent) as well as anyone in the country.
The other important thing (in game decision making) he struggles with. I will give you that.

 

[Irish du Nord]

I mean he took FIU to two straight bowl seasons, and won two Pac 12 championships at Oregon.
He isn't the second coming of Jimmy Johnson for that program, but he has the goods to make them a consistent top 20 program.
They haven't been a consistent top 20 program for 20 years.

He does the most important thing (stacking talent) as well as anyone in the country.
The other important thing (in game decision making) he struggles with. I will give you that.

Well they haven’t been a top 20 program for the two years he’s been there so idk about that.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I mean he took FIU to two straight bowl seasons, and won two Pac 12 championships at Oregon.
He isn't the second coming of Jimmy Johnson for that program, but he has the goods to make them a consistent top 20 program.
They haven't been a consistent top 20 program for 20 years.

He does the most important thing (stacking talent) as well as anyone in the country.
The other important thing (in game decision making) he struggles with. I will give you that.

Manny Diaz was modernizing recruiting at Miami and using the portal well. They canned him after three years. The program has been a shit show now for a long time. That infrastructure was waiting for Cristobal, as it was at Oregon when he took over there.

It's year two. I suppose he has time to prove me wrong, but I'm not terribly impressed with the guy on the one day of the week that matters most. I give him credit for working back to getting another opportunity because crashing out of FIU could have been it for a lot of guys. He had the support of the players at Oregon and parlayed that into the HC job. The players like him wherever he goes. That's a huge plus.

This is probably his last shot to get it right. With Clemson coming hard back to the mean, he's looking at going head to head with Norvell and FSU for the ACC. They seem to be a little bit ahead of him at the moment. Big month for him coming up, but Cristobal teams do pretty well in November I believe.

 

[Irish Knuckles]

All good points. Just think that if we're going to be battling Pratt, it will most likely be 1) against heavy hitters in the South, 2) all coming off strong seasons offensively. Not saying it's not a fight worth having, or that ND shouldn't put their hat in the ring, but it's going to be a battle and it'll have to come down to differentiating factors from what will be thrown at Pratt's doorstep by the factories south of the Mason Dixon line.

I have no idea what the motivation for the kid will be.

oregon and fsu would be the main competition for pratt next year. uw has a guy in the wings. if tvd leaves miami then that changes things. mertz will be back at uf and has done a solid job overall. lsu has a third year guy who's been waiting his turn and has looked good when given a chance. there's a reason he didn't hit the portal. fsu has recruited 3 pretty good prospects. not sure how they feel about any of them. i think oregon pretty much needs a transfer. Notre Dame would definitely make the playoffs next year with pratt at the helm. the coaches see a lot more than we do. maybe they just bring in a graduate who wants get into coaching/go to Notre Dame and serve as depth. i looks like pratt would be the top portal qb if he decides to transfer.

 

[T-Boone]

I dont know anything about Pratt. Is he better than Hartman in passing?

 

[Giddyup]

I think so. He’s pretty on point and has a cannon. He might be better off going in the draft really. Might be a third round guy.

 

[NDWarrior]

Tulane’s Michael Pratt is the best college football QB you haven’t heard discussed

 

[CTIDANDREW]

Well they haven’t been a top 20 program for the two years he’s been there so idk about that.

Yep, time will tell.
They’re one (stupid) play away from being 7-1 in his second year at the program, but I agree it’s his shortcomings as a in game decision maker that led to that stupid play even being possible.
I just think that if he can’t turn around that program with his recruiting abilities, then it may be over for them as a consistent top 10-20 program in the modern NCAA.

 

[irishandy]

Is Pratt going to match his stats from last season? He finished last season with 27 TD's & 5 INT's, given is still a month left he is at 14 TD's & 3 INT's.

Pratt still guarantees nothing for me next season, the American conference vs. the competition to what ND is a big difference. Hartman played vs some of the ACC teams.

Angeli & Minchey have been in the program. Develop, develop, develop.

 

[stlnd01]

Is Pratt going to match his stats from last season? He finished last season with 27 TD's & 5 INT's, given is still a month left he is at 14 TD's & 3 INT's.

Pratt still guarantees nothing for me next season, the American conference vs. the competition to what ND is a big difference. Hartman played vs some of the ACC teams.

Angeli & Minchey have been in the program. Develop, develop, develop.

He was hurt some and has only played in six games. His completion percentage and QBR are at career highs this year.

 

[NDWarrior]

This is my TP GT QB target list:

Michael Pratt, Tulane (bring his OC with him!)
Cam Rising, Utah (bring his OC with him if we can afford him?)
Will Howard, Kansas State
Brett Gabbert, Miami (OH)
Kurtis Rourke, Ohio
Riley Leonard, Duke
Drake Maye, North Carolina
J.J. McCarthy, Michigan (if they implode)
Brady Cook, Missouri (bring his OC with him!)
Austin Reed, Western Kentucky
TJ Finley, Texas State (bring his OC with him!)
DeQuan Finn, Toledo

 

[Katzenboyer]

This is my TP GT QB target list:

Michael Pratt, Tulane (bring his OC with him!)
Cam Rising, Utah (bring his OC with him if we can afford him?)
Will Howard, Kansas State
Brett Gabbert, Miami (OH)
Kurtis Rourke, Ohio
Riley Leonard, Duke
Drake Maye, North Carolina
J.J. McCarthy, Michigan (if they implode)
Brady Cook, Missouri (bring his OC with him!)
Austin Reed, Western Kentucky
TJ Finley, Texas State (bring his OC with him!)
DeQuan Finn, Toledo

Not sure if serious or not, but Drake Maye might be the #1 overall pick this upcoming draft, and JJ McCarthy is probably a first rounder. There's no chance they transfer elsewhere next season.

 

[CanadalovesND]

Go with a young guy that you feel presents the best long-term potential and ability.

If it means another 9-3 season, so be it. At least there is a higher ceiling to obtain in that regard. I'll stick with another 9-3 season if it's a redshirt freshman working through the challenges of being a first-year starter, if it means another two years of improved play.

 

[NDWarrior]

Not sure if serious or not, but Drake Maye might be the #1 overall pick this upcoming draft, and JJ McCarthy is probably a first rounder. There's no chance they transfer elsewhere next season.

Yeah that was a prayer reach and you are correct, he's going NFL

 

[LSWho?]

The worst thing about this failed offensive season is the opportunity cost. If Hartman balls out this season, we become destination #1 for transfer QBs going forward. That would have been so valuable in the NIL era.

 

[NDohio]

This is my TP GT QB target list:

Michael Pratt, Tulane (bring his OC with him!)
Cam Rising, Utah (bring his OC with him if we can afford him?)
Will Howard, Kansas State
Brett Gabbert, Miami (OH)
Kurtis Rourke, Ohio
Riley Leonard, Duke
Drake Maye, North Carolina
J.J. McCarthy, Michigan (if they implode)
Brady Cook, Missouri (bring his OC with him!)
Austin Reed, Western Kentucky
TJ Finley, Texas State (bring his OC with him!)
DeQuan Finn, Toledo

Does KJ Jefferson have any eligibility left?