Gerad Parker - Troy Head Coach :)

[TNUtoNotreDame]

I think Garrett will do a great job as OC

Why? He may, but what evidence do you have to declare this?

He maybe successful this year due to the fact Hartman is a stud. Parker was a huge low hanging fruit hire, hope for the best.

 

[arrowryan]

Why? He may, but what evidence do you have to declare this?

He maybe successful this year due to the fact Hartman is a stud. Parker was a huge low hanging fruit hire, hope for the best.

Lea and Rees were considered low hanging fruit hires too. There was zero evidence those would work. Hell, any hire from within the program is considered low hanging fruit.

 

[Luckylucci]

Lea and Rees were considered low hanging fruit hires too. There was zero evidence those would work. Hell, any hire from within the program is considered low hanging fruit.

At the time Rees was hired as OC. Oregon flew him in to interview for their OC job. Now, no chance he was getting that. But, Parker was not getting any calls from major P5 programs this off-season.

As we still see to this day. Rees is very well respected in the profession. BK hired Rees because someone else was going too if he didn’t.

Parker was not going anywhere.

 

[CoachB]

Not saying I believe this but just a thought: maybe Clark benefited from Elko’s success? Elko is the real deal imo bc he’s repeated success several times and Clark rode a nice wave. It took Shaw several years to screw up what Harbaugh built and it’s going to take Day a couple more years to ruin Urban’s Ohio State. Freeman can ride the BK wave for a while or maybe he will be great. IDK. Freeman is a Wild West gamble from my pov. But I’m not sold on Clark Lea like I am Elko yet.

Good thread, but I have to disagree with part of this comment. You already said you don't believe it yourself, but Clark has done a heck of a job already at Vandy without Elko. Personally, my two favorite coaches out there, Non ND, are Clark and Elko. I think they are both top notch. I have been following the job Clark has done at Vandy and it has been really good. Rooting for them to break out and get bowl eligible this year and to be on the top of that second level in the SEC.

 

[tko]

I hope Parker crushes it and crow is consumed here.

 

[MacIrish75]

I hope Parker crushes it and crow is consumed here.

I mean I think we all do. Nobody is actively rooting for him to fail…because then the team fails. But the hire definitely isn’t above scrutiny. It’s deserved.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

I hope Parker crushes it and crow is consumed here.

I won't eat crow due to the fact it was still a lazy hire. Parker was not sought after by anyone as far as I know. I will be content that ND accidentally made a good hire( after the Ludwig debacle).

 

[ThePiombino]

I hope Parker crushes it and crow is consumed here.

Why would anyone eat crow? It was an objectively lazy and ill-advised hire, whether or not he succeeds. Which we all hope he does.

 

[Ndaccountant]

I look forward to the creative names.

 

[Irish#1]

Plus, Elko was such a home run hire, and did so well in such a short time, that his endorsement of Lea as his unofficial protege went a looooooong way for most people.

Whereas BK/Rees were under a pretty steady stream of criticism for their offense, and Parker doesn’t even represent a continuation of the things that might have been universally approved of.

‘Elko —> Lea’ was an easy argument to make

‘Rees —> Parker’ shouldn’t have been a thing, period

Elko was, but if you look through his thread or one that discussed the DC hire, I had mentioned his name before it started to hold water and there were many that thought he wouldn't be a good hire because of WF's record.

 

[Irish#1]

Nobody's saying he couldn't end up being great, but arguing that he's a good hire at this point is a bit like buying a lottery ticket and calling it an investment. Hopefully he's our Brady, but as several others have said it feels like we might be getting the "Diet" version of an offense has already underperformed.

Wait! What?

 

[PutuporShutup]

I hope Parker crushes it and crow is consumed here.

Me too, i just don't think we'll know his true abilities until 2024/2025. This team in 2023 is set up to explode offensively, and he had very little to do with setting it up. Meaning we have a QB that probably doesn't even need a full OC. The development of the young talent this year and going into next will be huge for parker.

 

[indianamouse]

I won't eat crow due to the fact it was still a lazy hire. Parker was not sought after by anyone as far as I know. I will be content that ND accidentally made a good hire( after the Ludwig debacle).

How is it a lazy hire? They actively pursued other people, it just didn’t work out. They were even going to pursue others, but Parker knocked the interview out of the park.

 

[Blazers46]

I hope Parker crushes it and crow is consumed here.

Psssh!! Nobody eats crow on this board. If he fails we were all right. If he succeeds… we were all right.

 

[Irish4life]

I don't want to rehash old crap, but man, the whole Ludwig situation was so awful haha. Gets worse every time I think about it.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

How is it a lazy hire? They actively pursued other people, it just didn’t work out. They were even going to pursue others, but Parker knocked the interview out of the park.

Man, a guy with a flimsy resume, with no real track record is lazy. You think it was a home run, great. But imo when you have a chance to hire established or hot names you do it. Not just some dude that happens to be in the same building. I hope he succeeds, but that does not change the fact we could have done better.

 

[indianamouse]

Man, a guy with a flimsy resume, with no real track record is lazy. You think it was a home run, great. But imo when you have a chance to hire established or hot names you do it. Not just some dude that happens to be in the same building. I hope he succeeds, but that does not change the fact we could have done better.

I never said it was a home run. We will see how it works out. Even established coaches aren’t always going to work out. Could we have done better? We had our top candidates turn us down. Who do you believe we could have gotten?

 

[irishnd31]

Gerbob Barker

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

I never said it was a home run. We will see how it works out. Even established coaches aren’t always going to work out. Could we have done better? We had our top candidates turn us down. Who do you believe we could have gotten?

Ludwig would have come if ND did not step on it's own dick. I know we could have found someone, anyone that is an active OC at a G5 school or Lower P5 that would have been perceived as a good hire. The hire was and is viewed as a rebate hire by the outside world. And perception matters especially in recruiting. Schools have to be using this against us as not being committed. Again, I hope he does well, but I do believe we had much better choices.

 

[indianamouse]

Ludwig would have come if ND did not step on it's own dick. I know we could have found someone, anyone that is an active OC at a G5 school or Lower P5 that would have been perceived as a good hire. The hire was and is viewed as a rebate hire by the outside world. And perception matters especially in recruiting. Schools have to be using this against us as not being committed. Again, I hope he does well, but I do believe we had much better choices.

Our offensive recruiting seems pretty solid though

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Our offensive recruiting seems pretty solid though

Right now it is fine ( miles away from signing day), but if he struggles or shows he is over his head than it could come apart. Good news is we have Hartman that will likely cover some warts. The real question will be when Hartman is gone.

 

[stlnd01]

Ludwig would have come if ND did not step on it's own dick. I know we could have found someone, anyone that is an active OC at a G5 school or Lower P5 that would have been perceived as a good hire. The hire was and is viewed as a rebate hire by the outside world. And perception matters especially in recruiting. Schools have to be using this against us as not being committed. Again, I hope he does well, but I do believe we had much better choices.

We were somewhat hamstrung by Rees leaving pretty late in the coach hiring cycle.

Many of the best college OCs who may have been open to moving up had already done so. Others had been approached by the likes of Bama and used that interest to leverage new extensions and thus were off the market. I think that limited our options to guys like Klein and Ludwig who were in very good long-term situations and not necessarily inclined to move. Or NFL position coaches, but we’d already gone that route on defense.

I too am underwhelmed by the Parker hire but I like the rest of our offensive staff. Almost see Gino as a co-OC. The product on the field will determine what it means for recruiting.

 

[GATTACA!]

Who amongst us hasn't sat there on a Saturday and gone...

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST! Fire this idiot! RUN THE BALL! Fucking Tommy! BOOOOOOOOO! Great job wonder kid. I'm going to throw him out of the fucking press box. I COULD CALL A BETTER OFFENSE THAN THIS!

Well it's time to put that last part to the test and see how we, the general layperson, would do in that position.

 

[greyhammer90]

Who amongst us hasn't sat there on a Saturday and gone...

Well it's time to put that last part to the test and see how we, the general layperson, would do in that position.

I think Gerard actually screaming that over the headset during the Stanford game is why he got the job.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

We were somewhat hamstrung by Rees leaving pretty late in the coach hiring cycle.

Many of the best college OCs who may have been open to moving up had already done so. Others had been approached by the likes of Bama and used that interest to leverage new extensions and thus were off the market. I think that limited our options to guys like Klein and Ludwig who were in very good long-term situations and not necessarily inclined to move. Or NFL position coaches, but we’d already gone that route on defense.

I too am underwhelmed by the Parker hire but I like the rest of our offensive staff. Almost see Gino as a co-OC. The product on the field will determine what it means for recruiting.

Well summarized. You can blame Jack and the administration for the Ludwig fail, but I don't get any blame on Marcus, in retrospect.

Gerad basically said he's an over-communicator, so I expect he'll be leaning on Gino, Chansi and McCullough quite a bit. Even last year, you saw Marcus Freeman with a slight influence over the offense by dictating to Rees to take a shot against Clemson when Mayer scored to put the game away.

At the end of the day, it seems like the offense is too loaded to fail, even if people are underwhelmed by Gerad. I think we'll learn a lot about him this year, but next szn will be even more telling.

 

[T-Boone]

The combination of Gino and Parker is an upgrade over all. I think recruiting will improve on the O. Play calling should be an upgrade.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Can someone give the Cliff Notes version of the Ludwig debacle? I remember seeing bits and pieces here, but don’t know the whole story.


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[WildMan1]

When it comes down to it, you need athletes to make great plays. Saban wasn't crushing it at MSU.. All these guys know the game of football & the best plays are called in hindsight..

Parker will look good bc Sam, the OL and Estime will make him look good..

 

[notredomer23]

Can someone give the Cliff Notes version of the Ludwig debacle? I remember seeing bits and pieces here, but don’t know the whole story.


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I forget who, maybe Thamel, falsely stated that ND wouldn't pay Ludwig's buyout. Pretty sure it was proven incorrect, but ND publicly rolling him out at the hockey game and then Swarbrick sending a letter out scolding fans for their outrage meanwhile asking them for donations was a terrible look.

 

[Irish4life]

Can someone give the Cliff Notes version of the Ludwig debacle? I remember seeing bits and pieces here, but don’t know the whole story.


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ND wouldn't pay Ludwig's buyout, there was a major fan backlash, Swarbrick sent out an email to fans who emailed the program that said a bunch of nothing and then asked for donations.