Trump Presidency

[Irish#1]

How do you think typical political press conferences or events happen? You know, Kayleigh McEnany worked for CNN before her role in the WH, which should be welcomed experience because she would understand the production side of it.

They don't hire TV VP's like they did for this. They've been holding PC's and hearings for ages without bringing in TV exec's special.

 

[Irish#1]

I would be completely okay with locking Trump away. His dumbass probably deserves it. But if its for inciting an insurrection I would need Maxine Waters, AOC and others dumped into the same prison.

Try as he may, Trump isn't going to get the nomination. Only the radical's on the far right will support him.

 

[ACamp1900]

And there is no reaching you or the many people like you it seems at this point. If you can accept and rationalize what happend from Nov -Jan 6 as acceptable ( in light of all the evidence showing how anti democratic the actions taken by Trump were) or even favorable to our country thats a problem. Im not judging you but I'll never understand how someone can be ok with what happened or take what happened from Nov - Jan and be at best, ambivalent. It is the worst antidemocratic thing Ive seen in my life and if we dont learn from it, it will be done again and it will be successful the next time.

Jan 6th pissed me off and was an embarrassment. Trump can get fucked. Saying it wasn’t the darkest day in history or some massive attempt to overthrow the government is not condoning it or rationalizing it. It shouldn’t be this hard,… but one thing I def agree with you on all this is we all know where 95 percent of all posts here are going just by who posted it,…….. it’s predictable. Hell I think I have posts in one of these threads literally the day of predicting exactly where we all are on this today,… 🤷‍♂️

 

[ulukinatme]

Next time I fail to rob a bank I'm going to cite my incompetence as a reason for me not to be prosecuted.

Flawless logic.

If their intent was to destroy democracy and take over you would think they'd bring some guns or other suitable weapons. Do you often try robbing banks with your fists? If I intended to buy a ticket and go to a baseball game do you think I would show up empty handed or bring a wallet? The accusations are overblown, the outrage is completely exaggerated and nonsensical.

Here are your violent insurrectionists that led the bloody mob as they ask people to be civil so they can be heard.

 

[GoIrish41]

Where is all your faux rage when your side is burning police stations, assaulting police, threatening justices, encouraging citizens to ignore the law and harass officials, dragging people from their vehicles and beating them, looting businesses, attacking Federal buildings, or assaulting people who are just trying to protect their home or business?

😂

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

😂

Those actions/ events bring you humor?

 

[Blazers46]

 

[IrishLax]

Trump says he is running.



Sure looking forward to Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich Round 3.

 

[ACamp1900]

Good lord

 

[Irish#1]

Trump says he is running.



Sure looking forward to Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich Round 3.

I will be shocked if he is nominated. He'll garner votes from the far right, but I don't see it being enough.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I will be shocked if he is nominated. He'll garner votes from the far right, but I don't see it being enough.

If he runs in a splintered field, I think he could have a decent shot at winning unless numerous candidates drop out and mobilize behind the "preferred" candidate just like the Dems did two years ago. Otherwise, Trump has enough of a dedicated base to push him across the finish line.

Trump's popularity is shrinking overall in the Republican party, but there's probably 35% of the Republican party who would vote for him even if he was jailed for murder. You split the vote among 8 candidates and I'd venture to guess Trump comes out on top.

 

[ACamp1900]

If he runs in a splintered field, I think he could have a decent shot at winning unless numerous candidates drop out and mobilize behind the "preferred" candidate just like the Dems did two years ago. Otherwise, Trump has enough of a dedicated base to push him across the finish line.

Trump's popularity is shrinking overall in the Republican party, but there's probably 35% of the Republican party who would vote for him even if he was jailed for murder. You split the vote among 8 candidates and I'd venture to guess Trump comes out on top.

This is my worry

 

[Irish#1]

If he runs in a splintered field, I think he could have a decent shot at winning unless numerous candidates drop out and mobilize behind the "preferred" candidate just like the Dems did two years ago. Otherwise, Trump has enough of a dedicated base to push him across the finish line.

Trump's popularity is shrinking overall in the Republican party, but there's probably 35% of the Republican party who would vote for him even if he was jailed for murder. You split the vote among 8 candidates and I'd venture to guess Trump comes out on top.

That's a possibility, but I think you'll see the Repubs get behind the preferred candidate rather quickly. They won't want it to drag out.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I will be shocked if he is nominated. He'll garner votes from the far right, but I don't see it being enough.

You think he will lose the primary and just walk away after what he did to stay in the presidency? 🤦‍♂️

 

[ab2cmiller]

That's a possibility, but I think you'll see the Repubs get behind the preferred candidate rather quickly. They won't want it to drag out.

Wonder whether the Republican Leadership will try to "strongly influence" who enters the field, trying to minimize the candidates from the start. Obviously you can't control who runs for President. In 2016 the Republicans had 17 "major candidates". If they could get that below 10, it certainly would decrease the chance of a Trump victory. The problem with that is every Republican who's ever dreamed of being President is salivating at the thought of running against Biden. Wouldn't surprise me if there is a huge field of candidates.

 

[RDU Irish]

Only way to neuter Trump is if the Establishment throws it all behind Ron Desantis early and often. I don't see it happening from two angles - 1) establishment republicans suck, 2) Desantis doesn't need to take Trump head on - why not wait four years rather than risk it against the unconventional one?

Could be Trump courts Desantis as VP promoting a 12 year reign of awesomeness guaranteed to make woke idiots heads explode and revive cable news ratings.

 

[Blazers46]

I am hoping FOXNews supports Desantis and just doesnt give Trump any air time at all.

 

[Poirette]

I will be shocked if he is nominated. He'll garner votes from the far right, but I don't see it being enough.

MAGA 2024!

Sydney Powell as Attorney General

Giuliani as Special Prosecutor.

Peter Navarro as head of the fed.

Only the best people.

Free at last!

Bannon and Stone already working on dirt on DeSantis!!

 

[GATTACA!]

MAGA 2024!

Sydney Powell as Attorney General

Giuliani as Special Prosecutor.

Peter Navarro as head of the fed.

Only the best people.

Free at last!

Bannon and Stone already working on dirt on DeSantis!!

Sad part is I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.

 

[GATTACA!]

Please can we just get someone even halfway sane? I'd vote for Romney in a heartbeat, and he wears magical underwear.

 

[TorontoGold]

Please can we just get someone even halfway sane? I'd vote for Romney in a heartbeat, and he wears magical underwear.

PutHotDogMeatOnMenusAgain

 

[GoIrish41]

According to the committee findings so far, it was a multipronged attempt to undermine the election. Started with the legal challenges in courts that were baseless , then included pushing state governors and legislations to overturn and decertify results, a pressure campaign to have Pence decertify the results and when that failed a last ditch attempt that included attacking the Capitol with armed people to stop the certification. All coordinated. All planned. Its a much worse than you are making it out to be.

The crowd was armed and Trump and everyone knew it by 10 am The committee proved that. Trump didnt want the magnetometers used because he knew they were armed and they weren't there to harm him. He did nothing, instead actively pushed them to march knowing they were armed. Knowing the Capital police were understaffed and did nothing to stop or prevent it. Hutchinson said that it was only at the very end of the day under great pressure did Trump relent to make that video telling the rioters he loved them and to go home. she said he only did it as cover (to claim later) for what they just allowed to happen.

Yeah. No big whoop! 🙄

 

[NorthDakota]

Wonder whether the Republican Leadership will try to "strongly influence" who enters the field, trying to minimize the candidates from the start. Obviously you can't control who runs for President. In 2016 the Republicans had 17 "major candidates". If they could get that below 10, it certainly would decrease the chance of a Trump victory. The problem with that is every Republican who's ever dreamed of being President is salivating at the thought of running against Biden. Wouldn't surprise me if there is a huge field of candidates.

Gonna be a wild deal for the reasons stated. Tough to tell people with dreams of the Presidency to not go for it in '24.

 

[NorthDakota]

Please can we just get someone even halfway sane? I'd vote for Romney in a heartbeat, and he wears magical underwear.

Romney would've been perfect for 2012. That was his moment.

Now its Ron's moment. If it was a 2012 type atmosphere again I'd tell Larry Hogan to go for it. Listened to him on a podcast recently and he is great...but he ain't winning a Republican nomination right now.

 

[NDMatt91]

Only way to neuter Trump is if the Establishment throws it all behind Ron Desantis early and often. I don't see it happening from two angles - 1) establishment republicans suck, 2) Desantis doesn't need to take Trump head on - why not wait four years rather than risk it against the unconventional one?

Could be Trump courts Desantis as VP promoting a 12 year reign of awesomeness guaranteed to make woke idiots heads explode and revive cable news ratings.

I think the knock against your 2nd point is that 2024 is Ron’s time. If he waits until 2028 he won’t be in office anymore, as his 2nd term as Governor would end in January of 2027. There also might be someone else who gains popularity between 2024 and 2028.

I also think Ron is too big of a star to be saddled with Trump’s baggage by agreeing to be his VP. He is much smarter, far more articulate, and a better debater than Trump, and he has nowhere near the baggage. He also won’t alienate the suburban wine moms like Trump did. We saw this with Youngkin in Virginia. When Trump was off the ballot and not the biggest issue, Youngkin was able to win over voters, particularly women voters, who hated Trump and voted for Biden.

 

[NDMatt91]

Sad part is I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.

We’ve already seen Trump’s sycophants threaten, go after, or even lie about DeSantis. Roger Stone threatened to run as a spoiler 3rd party candidate in the Florida Governor’s race unless Ron declared he wouldn’t run for President in 2024. Jenna Ellis, one of the many losers from Trump’s legal team, sided with Disney and railed against DeSantis, likely because she and a certain someone were jealous about all of the headlines Ron was receiving. Allies of Trump have gone around saying that Ron won’t run in 2024, even though DeSantis has never said that.

 

[Irish#1]

Gonna be a wild deal for the reasons stated. Tough to tell people with dreams of the Presidency to not go for it in '24.

You'll see some behind the scenes dealing to placate some of those that want to run, but don't have a realistic chance.

 

[Irish#1]

We’ve already seen Trump’s sycophants threaten, go after, or even lie about DeSantis. Roger Stone threatened to run as a spoiler 3rd party candidate in the Florida Governor’s race unless Ron declared he wouldn’t run for President in 2024. Jenna Ellis, one of the many losers from Trump’s legal team, sided with Disney and railed against DeSantis, likely because she and a certain someone were jealous about all of the headlines Ron was receiving. Allies of Trump have gone around saying that Ron won’t run in 2024, even though DeSantis has never said that.

Not surprising. That's SOP for Trump. Trump has railed on and on so much that people (not his hard line followers) look at him like Chicken Little IMO.

 

[Irish#1]

I think the knock against your 2nd point is that 2024 is Ron’s time. If he waits until 2028 he won’t be in office anymore, as his 2nd term as Governor would end in January of 2027. There also might be someone else who gains popularity between 2024 and 2028.

I also think Ron is too big of a star to be saddled with Trump’s baggage by agreeing to be his VP. He is much smarter, far more articulate, and a better debater than Trump, and he has nowhere near the baggage. He also won’t alienate the suburban wine moms like Trump did. We saw this with Youngkin in Virginia. When Trump was off the ballot and not the biggest issue, Youngkin was able to win over voters, particularly women voters, who hated Trump and voted for Biden.

Strike while the iron is hot.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Sad part is I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.

Please can we just get someone even halfway sane? I'd vote for Romney in a heartbeat, and he wears magical underwear.

MAGA and TeaParty is so extreme id welcome a reasonable GOP candidate like Romney or Manchin if it meant the traitorous orange shitstain never sees another political office again.