Trump Presidency

[Blazers46]

And there is no reaching you or the many people like you it seems at this point. If you can accept and rationalize what happend from Nov -Jan 6 as acceptable ( in light of all the evidence showing how anti democratic the actions taken by Trump were) or even favorable to our country thats a problem. Im not judging you but I'll never understand how someone can be ok with what happened or take what happened from Nov - Jan and be at best, ambivalent. It is the worst antidemocratic thing Ive seen in my life and if we dont learn from it, it will be done again and it will be successful the next time.

It’s not acceptable. Lol. I never said it was. It’s just funny people like you think they were an actual threat to overthrowing democracy.

Speaking of antidemocratic… sending abortion to the states seems very democratic… but let’s go destroy shit to get our way. Sound familiar? Institutional racism… let’s destroy shit.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Are you not doing the exact same thing that you're accusing him of doing with the laptop story?

It's seems disingenuous, hypocritical, and frankly weird to be tone policing on what someone can or can't post because of your opinion on what's fact/fiction on a certain topic.

Just be honest with yourself, no one is responding daily to whatever new theory is out there with the Hunter stuff - why do you feel the need to police what someone on the "other side" is doing in regards to what they feel they should post on?

Why not just debate on what the reports are, worrying about playing tone policeman or neutral arbiter is a no-win solution because everyone has their biases and it will always be present no matter the topic. Not every post by a poster needs to be full on audit of what they may or may not have posted in the past, and you want to do that at least post the posts in question otherwise it comes off as a jealous ex-girlfriend mad at you for something done ages ago.

Bishop has such a hard on for me. Its a bit weird honestly.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

It’s not acceptable. Lol. I never said it was. It’s just funny people like you think they were an actual threat to overthrowing democracy.

Speaking of antidemocratic… sending abortion to the states seems very democratic… but let’s go destroy shit to get our way. Sound familiar? Institutional racism… let’s destroy shit.

They literally were bro. jfc There wass no shortage of attempts. They took every route possible to do it. The actually stopped the counting because of the incursion. Holy shit... what else needs to be done. The only thing left was Pence actually doing what was asked of him or the count not being finished.

 

[ulukinatme]

Cack, you were just as "certain" for three years about Trump's guilt, the truth in the Steele dossier & Russian collusion, and how honest and real the Senate investigation was... even told us just about every day, "This is it!" or "The walls are closing in!" or "There's the smoking gun!" or "And down he goes!" for years, only to find out it was all made up, Schiff & Co. had lied to you, it was a show trial with no credible basis, and you'd been duped. I'm not trying to be mean, but you need to come back to reality about politics and Trump and the democratic party and stop being so flipping gullible and blinded by tunnel vision.

You know, I'll give them this...more than any past President they have really gotten creative with their crazy made-up stories when it comes to Trump. The Russian hoax, the urinating on the bed, the park clearing for the "photo op," and now beating up a SS agent and hijacking the Beast...to name just a few.

Nothing happens to the elite, money and power will protect almost anyone. I always laugh when I see someone online say that Trump is done for or Hillary is getting locked up. For starters, the allegations are often false or trumped up most of the time. Even if they are true, these people will never serve time. The unlucky few elite that do get punished are usually there because someone higher up rolled over...or if you're Epstein you get whacked to protect the others.

Nothing directly will happen as a result of this show trial. I doubt the Dems plan is to try and punish Trump personally. This is about votes and nothing more. They want to distract from what's going on now economically and sway voters for November.

 

[Blazers46]

They literally were bro. jfc There wass no shortage of attempts. They took every route possible to do it. The actually stopped the counting because of the incursion. Holy shit... what else needs to be done. The only thing left was Pence actually doing what was asked of him or the count not being finished.

So let’s say they made it to the floor with all the politicians. Let’s say worst case scenario is everyone in that room died. Is Trump our president today? No… the answer is no. Would the dude wearing animal skin be our leader… no. Biden would still be president. Please come back to reality.

 

[ulukinatme]

They literally were bro. jfc There wass no shortage of attempts. They took every route possible to do it. The actually stopped the counting because of the incursion. Holy shit... what else needs to be done. The only thing left was Pence actually doing what was asked of him or the count not being finished.

Cack, how do you legitimately overthrow a government with the most powerful military in the world without firing a shot? It was never going to happen, be reasonable. If the mob was serious about overthrowing democracy you'd think they might have brought some actual guns and would have stuck around instead of leaving when the National Guard told them to disperse.

 

[Irish#1]

Conversely there's not reaching many people like you. I don't think anyone accepts it or think it's rational, but the Dems have a history of making things up or blowing them up to be bigger than what they are. Ask yourself why the committee would hire a TV executive to produce the hearing?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

So let’s say they made it to the floor with all the politicians. Let’s say worst case scenario is everyone in that room died. Is Trump our president today? No… the answer is no. Would the dude wearing animal skin be our leader… no. Biden would still be president. Please come back to reality.

No. If the certification count was stopped by Pence there would have to be a SCOTUS ruling on what happens from there. That would be the next least violent step had Spence done what Trump was pressuring him to do. I’d not like to speculate what happens from there.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Conversely there's not reaching many people like you. I don't think anyone accepts it or think it's rational, but the Dems have a history of making things up or blowing them up to be bigger than what they are. Ask yourself why the committee would hire a TV executive to produce the hearing?

I’m not a Democrat. I’m not a republican. I simply saw what happened with my own two eyes and I have been listening to the presentation of evidence. I have seen what the FBI has charged these people with… seditious conspiracy at worst. It has nothing to do with political affiliations. It was everything to with evidence. I have said before I don’t care who did it or what party they are. I want everyone found out and punished such that this is never tried again.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Cack, how do you legitimately overthrow a government with the most powerful military in the world without firing a shot? It was never going to happen, be reasonable. If the mob was serious about overthrowing democracy you'd think they might have brought some actual guns and would have stuck around instead of leaving when the National Guard told them to disperse.

If they stopped the certification and the SCOTUS rules on some rule allowing Trump to remain in office then that would have happened without need for military intervention because he was and remained the POTUS even after a legitimate loss. Scary shit. Sorry y’all can’t see how fucked up that is.

 

[Irish#1]

No. If the certification count was stopped by Pence there would have to be a SCOTUS ruling on what happens from there. That would be the next least violent step had Spence done what Trump was pressuring him to do

And Pence was unwavering in his position not to go forward with that. Except for a few of Trumps cronies, no one was willing to take those steps. Trump had virtually no support from anyone that mattered.

 

[TorontoGold]

Conversely there's not reaching many people like you. I don't think anyone accepts it or think it's rational, but the Dems have a history of making things up or blowing them up to be bigger than what they are. Ask yourself why the committee would hire a TV executive to produce the hearing?

Ben....ghazi?


...why wouldn't they hire a TV executive to produce the hearing? I have my marketing staff help me when I'm prepping for a presentation, they don't know a lick of business advisory but since they know how to make things more presentable to the targeted audience.

 

[Blazers46]

Cack, how do you legitimately overthrow a government with the most powerful military in the world without firing a shot? It was never going to happen, be reasonable. If the mob was serious about overthrowing democracy you'd think they might have brought some actual guns and would have stuck around instead of leaving when the National Guard told them to disperse.

I hope China and Russia do not have operatives on IE taking notes (might have a few Canadians). A few fire extinguishers is all its going to take. Pretty simple. Then afterward deli sandwiches in the Oval Office.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

And Pence was unwavering in his position not to go forward with that. Except for a few of Trumps cronies, no one was willing to take those steps.

Untrue. Unwavering lmao…… He reached out to other Vice Presidents and asked if he had to power to what Trump was pressuring him to do. Had he chosen to do so it would have ultimately been a SCOTUS ruling. Who knows how that would have been ruled

Again if you have been following the committee hearings you would know there were many people trying to get The votes decertified, through the legal system, and finally a pressure campaign on Pence. When pence proceeded with the certification the mob was released. Simple as that.

 

[ulukinatme]

Conversely there's not reaching many people like you. I don't think anyone accepts it or think it's rational, but the Dems have a history of making things up or blowing them up to be bigger than what they are. Ask yourself why the committee would hire a TV executive to produce the hearing?

 

[Blazers46]

I’m not a Democrat. I’m not a republican. I simply saw what happened with my own two eyes and I have been listening to the presentation of evidence. I have seen what the FBI has charged these people with… seditious conspiracy at worst. It has nothing to do with political affiliations. It was everything to with evidence. I have said before I don’t care who did it or what party they are. I want everyone found out and punished such that this is never tried again.

Lets not stop there... oh wait. Can't compare violent riots... nevermind.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Lets not stop there... oh wait. Can't compare violent riots... nevermind.

When did I say that? Never. Violence is never the answer and I hope all that commit crimes via political violence are caught and held accountable. Weird play trying to straw man me here like this.

 

[ulukinatme]

If they stopped the certification and the SCOTUS rules on some rule allowing Trump to remain in office then that would have happened without need for military intervention because he was and remained the POTUS even after a legitimate loss. Scary shit. Sorry y’all can’t see how fucked up that is.

Except your doomsday scenario never happened and it wasn't close. If the President ever tried to really "destroy democracy" the military would circumvent him to preserve the Constitution.

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the _____ (Military Branch) of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic"

 

[GATTACA!]

Except your doomsday scenario never happened and it wasn't close. If the President ever tried to really "destroy democracy" the military would circumvent him to preserve the Constitution.

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the _____ (Military Branch) of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic"

Next time I fail to rob a bank I'm going to cite my incompetence as a reason for me not to be prosecuted.

Flawless logic.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Except your doomsday scenario never happened and it wasn't close. If the President ever tried to really "destroy democracy" the military would circumvent him to preserve the Constitution.

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the _____ (Military Branch) of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic"

Nothing else to say about this epic piece of reasoning. We got it buddy. You are committed.

 

[Blazers46]

When did I say that? Never. Violence is never the answer and I hope all that commit crimes via political violence are caught and held accountable. Weird play trying to straw man me here like this.

Weird play? That is the play. I guess I am speaking to the board as a whole. If the shoe fits wear it, if not dont play victim.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Weird play? That is the play. I guess I am speaking to the board as a whole. If the shoe fits wear it, if not dont play victim.

Its weird yes because I have never once approved of or advocated politcal violence so not only is it weird its dishonest as hell. No victimhood here, just staright up bullshit on your part.


OOOOHHHHHHH I get it, because I havent commented on all instances of political violence by the left over the last 25 years I tacitly approve it... lol. jfc :jerkoff:

Hey everybody... if you dont denounce every instance of leftist political violence apparently yo absolutely have not grounds to criticize trump in trying to over throw the election. Just so you know. In case you wanted to criticize trump specifically for his part in instigating an insurrection.

 

[Blazers46]

Next time I fail to rob a bank I'm going to cite my incompetence as a reason for me not to be prosecuted.

Flawless logic.

Realistically incompetence is part of law. If you fail to kill someone you would essentially cite your incompetence if were being charged for murder. In your case it would be attempted robbery... not robbery. Depending on where you live... that logic might just get you a suspended sentence or case dismissed. Welcome to Las Cruces NM. Guy tried to rob our store 14 months ago and failed... hes currently living in a house just a block away from our store with charges dismissed because he did some community service.

Its weird yes because I have never once approved of or advocated politcal violence so not only is it weird its dishonest as hell. No victimhood here, just staright up bullshit on your part.


OOOOHHHHHHH I get it, because I havent commented on all instances of political violence by the left over the last 25 years I tacitly approve it... lol. jfc :jerkoff:

Reading is necessary... if the shoe fits wear it . if it does not its sort of a response to the board as a whole.

This is a public forum, I can't keep track or take inventory of who said what and when. But I can sort of remember what others have said. At any rate I never said or metioned what you have or have not mentioned in the past. So pot meet kettle.

 

[Sea Turtle]

So let’s say they made it to the floor with all the politicians. Let’s say worst case scenario is everyone in that room died. Is Trump our president today? No… the answer is no. Would the dude wearing animal skin be our leader… no. Biden would still be president. Please come back to reality.

Yeah, it was a dark and ugly day. But to hear Cack say that our Repiblic was more in danger from these bozos creating trouble then say, England conquering DC in 1812 or Lee having a direct line to DC if Gettesburg falls is mind blowing.
And frankly, hyperbolic language is one reason why nobody cares about this committee.
This event wasn't even as ugly as The Bonus Army, when our country attacked and fired on our own veterans who were desperate in 1932.

 

[Blazers46]

Yeah, it was a dark and ugly day. But to hear Cack say that our Repiblic was more in danger from these bozos creating trouble then say, England conquering DC in 1812 or Lee having a direct line to DC if Gettesburg falls is mind blowing.
And frankly, hyperbolic language is one reason why nobody cares about this committee.
This event wasn't even as ugly as The Bonus Army, when our country attacked and fired on our own veterans who were desperate in 1932.

Insurrection... sounds cool. I get it. Sounds just as cool as racist, sexist, and other ists. These are words not only owned by the democrats but words they have been able to change meanings of to win arguments.

Insurrection - a violent uprising against an authority or government. I needlessly need to remind everyone that people were literally taking over police stations while police fled. But not the same because the democrats own that work so the republicans can't use it.

 

[Irish#1]

Ben....ghazi?


...why wouldn't they hire a TV executive to produce the hearing? I have my marketing staff help me when I'm prepping for a presentation, they don't know a lick of business advisory but since they know how to make things more presentable to the targeted audience.

Why wouldn't they? Because it's a political hearing, not a made for TV movie. They hired the exec to fluff it up to sell it to the public so they don't have to face Trump again. Another waste of taxpayers dollars.

 

[GATTACA!]

Yeah, it was a dark and ugly day. But to hear Cack say that our Repiblic was more in danger from these bozos creating trouble then say, England conquering DC in 1812 or Lee having a direct line to DC if Gettesburg falls is mind blowing.
And frankly, hyperbolic language is one reason why nobody cares about this committee.
This event wasn't even as ugly as The Bonus Army, when our country attacked and fired on our own veterans who were desperate in 1932.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000...0014e-f115-dd93-ad7f-f91513e50001&nlid=630318

 

[Irish#1]

Untrue. Unwavering lmao…… He reached out to other Vice Presidents and asked if he had to power to what Trump was pressuring him to do. Had he chosen to do so it would have ultimately been a SCOTUS ruling. Who knows how that would have been ruled

Again if you have been following the committee hearings you would know there were many people trying to get The votes decertified, through the legal system, and finally a pressure campaign on Pence. When pence proceeded with the certification the mob was released. Simple as that.

Glad I could make you laugh. Reaching out to others to see if he had the power doesn't mean he's going to do it. You ever think that he was looking to find out he doesn't have the authority, so he can then tell Trump to give it up?

(CNN)Former Vice President Mike Pence rebuked former President Donald Trump on Thursday night on the question of overturning the results of the 2020 presidential election.
Pence also said he will "always be proud" of his role in affirming the election results on January 6 following a deadly riot of Trump supporters at the US Capitol.

 

[TorontoGold]

Why wouldn't they? Because it's a political hearing, not a made for TV movie. They hired the exec to fluff it up to sell it to the public so they don't have to face Trump again. Another waste of taxpayers dollars.

How do you think typical political press conferences or events happen? You know, Kayleigh McEnany worked for CNN before her role in the WH, which should be welcomed experience because she would understand the production side of it.

 

[Blazers46]

I would be completely okay with locking Trump away. His dumbass probably deserves it. But if its for inciting an insurrection I would need Maxine Waters, AOC and others dumped into the same prison.