USC & UCLA to the Big Ten

[Ndaccountant]

Money is rapidly ruining college football. It all started with the Longhorn Network. That was the first domino.

Not quite. Started with ND and NBC. That was really the second domino, after NCAA lost the monopoly rights on games years earlier.

 

[ACamp1900]

It was all well and fine until the playoff,.. called it.

Kiss the ring and enjoy a shittier cfb you plebs.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

Not quite. Started with ND and NBC. That was really the second domino, after NCAA lost the monopoly rights on games years earlier.

Right? Like, we started this whole thing decades ago.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

I hate to admit it, but we're probably going to end up in the big 10.
If they can get Stanford to join I think I'd be OK with it.

But I'd want it in writing that if the conference ever collapses we can go back to being independent for no cost. Oh and I want us to have 2 votes.

1 for how we want to vote and 1 for the exact opposite of whatever scUM wants, so it's always on record from us Fuck michigan.

 

[BoredIrish]

Is the BIG 10 west really a tougher conference than the PAC 12?

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

Is the BIG 10 west really a tougher conference than the PAC 12?

Big 10 rights are going to be coming up for bid soon.

Big 10 payout is like 23 million more than the PAC 12 already.

PAC 12 is only higher than the ACC.

Not many schools are going to say no to you want us to play in a relatively comparable strength conference and pay us 23 million more per year.

 

[mango4]

Also rumor on OSU sites saying Clemson has been denied by B1G. Tbh if I’m ND I pull the trigger and say let me keep the independent TV deal. Academics align and I think ND/OSU would be the 2 teams ruling the B1G

USC and UCLA are reportedly going to make 100 million plus a year from the Big 10 contract. Notre Dame makes, what, 20 million a year from the NBC contract? Why keep the NBC deal when we can make 5x that in the Big 10

 

[GATTACA!]

USC and UCLA are reportedly going to make 100 million plus a year from the Big 10 contract. Notre Dame makes, what, 20 million a year from the NBC contract? Why keep the NBC deal when we can make 5x that in the Big 10

There's 80 million under Swarbrick's office chair. ND has been losing money on the NBC deal for years. They obviously don't care. That's a rounding error.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

USC and UCLA are reportedly going to make 100 million plus a year from the Big 10 contract. Notre Dame makes, what, 20 million a year from the NBC contract? Why keep the NBC deal when we can make 5x that in the Big 10

Do you have a source for this number. I can’t believe the tv payout to big 10 is over a billion dollars. Is it really that much? That’s bananas if true. I thought ND was ahead of most teams with the tv contract

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[mango4]

Do you have a source for this number. I can’t believe the tv payout to big 10 is over a billion dollars. Is it really that much? That’s bananas if true. I thought ND was ahead of most teams with the tv contract

 

[stlnd01]

Do you have a source for this number. I can’t believe the tv payout to big 10 is over a billion dollars. Is it really that much? That’s bananas if true. I thought ND was ahead of most teams with the tv contract

Nah. Even under the current Big Ten TV deal, every school - even Purdue and Northwestern - is pulling in about $31M a year. Notre Dame gets $15M from NBC (maybe some ACC money too though? I'm not sure.) By the end of the next Big Ten deal they could be getting $100M. Especially now that they can sell eyeballs in California too.

Here’s a look at all the current conference TV deals

While changes are coming, here are the conference TV deals for each of the 10 leagues, for Notre Dame and for the College Football Playoff.

www.on3.com

I don't think Notre Dame should join the Big Ten for the money (more concerned about scheduling and playoff access, personally). But at some point the money does start to matter.

 

[greyhammer90]

It definitely feels like I'm going to be telling my kids about this awesome, weird sport we used to have called college football.

“There was once a dream that was Rome. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish... it was so fragile. And I fear that it will not survive the winter.”​

 

[arndtjc]

When Michigan & USC face each other who do we root for....

A gigantic sinkhole

 

[irishandy]

Money is rapidly ruining college football.

This is what is ruining my favorite sport.

Pretty soon will rivalry games matter?

Another poster put it will be East vs. West.

I am OK with the playoffs expanding, but the non-conference games need to be tougher for the big boys; especially what some kids are getting paid.

 

[Praetorian]

I keep thinking about the next domino. Let’s assume Oregon and Washington are next. Then it’s Stanford. What about Colorado and Utah? Then UNC, UVA, Clemson, Duke?

Then what does the Pac12 do? Invite SDSU, Boise, Fresno, etc?

This is going to be such an absolute mess that in six months we won’t recognize a single conference.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I keep thinking about the next domino. Let’s assume Oregon and Washington are next. Then it’s Stanford. What about Colorado and Utah? Then UNC, UVA, Clemson, Duke?

Then what does the Pac12 do? Invite SDSU, Boise, Fresno, etc?

This is going to be such an absolute mess that in six months we won’t recognize a single conference.

What the PAC-12 does is irrelevant because they've already started the decent into obscurity. Oregon and Washington have to jump if they want to play big boy ball. Who knows what Stanford does, they aren't as committed to athletics as the other state schools.

The ACC will start crumbling soon but I don't know what the timelines are for media contracts at each school. Everyone can see the 2 mega conferences that are devouring the others now. It's just a matter of time. Everything slowly grows bigger in our infrastructure.

We used to have mom & pop hardware stores, now you have Home Depot and Amazon. We used to run around in tiny city-states, now we have massive countries and geopolitical complexity that is ever increasing.

This was the destiny of CFB

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Got to ask because of the wording... is that 50mil each? 100 mil for the two.

 

[mango4]

Got to ask because of the wording... is that 50mil each? 100 mil for the two.

According to this, the new media deal was going to be over a billion per year. I imagine that will only get larger with adding the LA market. So it will be closer to 100 mil each I’m guessing.

Big Ten aims to have new media rights deal, worth up to $1 billion, in place around Memorial Day

The Big Ten has not yet decided whether to have one, two or more partners

www.cbssports.com

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

The Big Ten may not be done making moves.

From a financial standpoint, ND joining the Big Ten would be best for the entire athletic department. Miami, FSU and Clemson are likely gone to the SEC now. Maybe UNC too. The ACC has a TV deal that currently runs through 2035-36, so there's that.

If you're worried about ND being "regionally locked", let's consider that the Big Ten now starts in Los Angeles and goes all the way to College Park, Maryland.

There is an inevitable feeling, at least as I am currently seeing it, that ND in the Big Ten as we now know it would be a powerhouse.

 

[ShadesO'Green]

I believe last year each school in the Big Ten got about 58 mil through media rights with the expectations to be over 100 by the time 2030 rolled around... the new expectation is to blow past that and be there by the time those schools join. I don't love the way the future of college football landscape will look. I do think ND will eventually join the Big Ten now. The biggest question to me is if they will continue to take Pac-12 teams or will the try and raid the ACC for a UNC, VT, Duke, and Pitt.

 

[Irish#1]

It definitely feels like I'm going to be telling my kids about this awesome, weird sport we used to have called college football.

“There was once a dream that was Rome. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish... it was so fragile. And I fear that it will not survive the winter.”​

Let me tell you about when CFB was awesome. There was the Big 10, Southwest Conference, the PAC 8 and more.

 

[AvesEvo]

Why is it that the big time programs agree to share revenue? Surely Ohio St. brings much more to the table than Rutgers?

 

[Crimson streak]

IF ND joins the big ten, it will only add even more value to the media rights. I’d be willing to bet almost every school will be bringing in almost 120 mill. IF I’m ND, how do you say no to that? While also playing a national schedule still and keeping almost all your traditional rivals. To me it’s a no brainer


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[IrishLion]

The funniest thing to me will be when instead of four superconferences, which everyone projected, it's really just TWO superconferences. The Ultra-SEC and the Mega-BIG.

There *will* be two other "super" conferences, but all the programs of true consequence will end up in either BIG or the SEC simply to maximize TV-related revenue as the contracts get bigger and bigger with each major addition.

Then, because of how big the two primary conferences get, we end up with 8-team pods... or basically, we end up with 6 major sub-conferences among them, thus essentially recreating the regional conference system that we all knew and loved, but less watered down, and with two TV network packages to worry about instead of 4 or 5.

This will either destroy college football, or make it a more-concentrated version of what we like, just with slightly different regional affiliations.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

I hate to admit it, but we're probably going to end up in the big 10.
If they can get Stanford to join I think I'd be OK with it.

But I'd want it in writing that if the conference ever collapses we can go back to being independent for no cost. Oh and I want us to have 2 votes.

1 for how we want to vote and 1 for the exact opposite of whatever scUM wants, so it's always on record from us Fuck michigan.

Why are people so rock hard for Stanford? I DGAF if we ever play stanford again. They are hardly some kind of historic rival… we only really started playing them in the 90s..

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

I honestly don't understand the consternation towards the BIG 10. Just leave whatever happened in the 90s in the 90s and move on. A move to the Big 10 is absolutely the right move for ND right now. Anything else would be pretty short sided. I don't think 2 superconferences are going to cater to an independent ND for much longer. Now is the time to make a move.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

Why are people so rock hard for Stanford? I DGAF if we ever play stanford again. They are hardly some kind of historic rival… we only really started playing them in the 90s..

Agreed. If we really want to play in California every year, the Big Ten has a replacement with UCLA, which might be better for recruiting because its a game in LA instead of the Bay area.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Hmmmm do you think ND would insist on BC for the Catholic brotherhood thing?

I hope not. Backup College can FOH.

 

[Dale]

Why are people so rock hard for Stanford? I DGAF if we ever play stanford again. They are hardly some kind of historic rival… we only really started playing them in the 90s..

B1G you would think would have to add 2 more West coast schools regardless. It might as well be a school we currently schedule, are rivals with, and historically and currently better than over Oregon given the choice.