'23 MI QB Dante Moore (Greek Spaghetti Transfer)

[stlnd01]

Yep. Dante Moore has every damn right to look around as much as he wants to before committing (silently, publicly, whatever). I get this feels like it's dragging on but it's so much better he look now than commit early just to appease our staff (or, like, Mike Frank?) and then have second thoughts in the fall and open things back up. As for "hurting our class," I get the usual QB logic but we seem to be doing just fine without one at this point, thanks.

The only real risk to Notre Dame here is if Dante actually commits elsewhere b/c of one of these visits. But that's more (Moore?) on the staff for putting all their eggs in his basket than on Dante. If he wants to go see Texas A&M, that's his business. Hopefully he'll see that Texas A&M sucks.

 

[Blazers46]

This right here. If he knows that Dante is a silent, he shouldn't be tipping his opinion based on that. And if Dante is a silent, let him be a silent. Mike has no business telling Dante how to act. It's really gross to hear from a "professional". For all Mike knows, this could have been blessed/suggested by ND as a way for him to build his brand more or for ND to "lock him" while he does a farewell tour, who knows. This day in age, if ND can get a kid this elite, then the staff is going to have to be flexible with the kids' decisions. Mike Frank would be shopping down the Kelly aisle.

Mes thinks he be silently committed to everyone. Nothing to go on but my own pessimism.

 

[IrishLion]

Mes thinks he be silently committed to everyone. Nothing to go on but my own pessimism.

Nah, there'd be way more EJ Holland bullshit to sift through if that were the case.

 

[T-Boone]

ND should silently start re recruiting viz and Arnold and etc

 

[allenm5333]

A couple thoughts
A) He is either a silent who wants to continue visits or told MF "I want to commit and still take visits". So MF is telling him to take the visits so that he is 100%. I am confident ND would get the final visit before any other decision is made.
B) If he wasn't a ND qb recruit this would be fine. This is the game

 

[Irish4life]

A couple thoughts
A) He is either a silent who wants to continue visits or told MF "I want to commit and still take visits". So MF is telling him to take the visits so that he is 100%. I am confident ND would get the final visit before any other decision is made.
B) If he wasn't a ND qb recruit this would be fine. This is the game

Personally, I believe it's the former (wanted to commit and then take visits, MF told him to take visits now and then commit). And yeah, this is what it's like to recruit 5 star QBs. We're just going to have to get used to it and trust our coaching staff to close.

 

[allenm5333]

Personally, I believe it's the former (wanted to commit and then take visits, MF told him to take visits now and then commit). And yeah, this is what it's like to recruit 5 star QBs. We're just going to have to get used to it and trust our coaching staff to close.

What I think as well.

 

[Dale]

I don’t think there’s any doubt he silently committed a while ago. The real question to ponder if you’re asking is whether that really matters.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Yep. Dante Moore has every damn right to look around as much as he wants to before committing (silently, publicly, whatever). I get this feels like it's dragging on but it's so much better he look now than commit early just to appease our staff (or, like, Mike Frank?) and then have second thoughts in the fall and open things back up. As for "hurting our class," I get the usual QB logic but we seem to be doing just fine without one at this point, thanks.

Reading between the lines: (1) Moore tried to commit to Freeman, but wanted to still take visits; (2) Freeman told Moore to take them first before committing publicly; (3) ND has been using Moore's silent to generate buzz with other recruits, which is partly why we've got so much momentum now; and (4) everyone was looking forward Moore taking his 5th and final OV so he could go public with his commitment and shut everything down.

His dad's recent comments about Moore continuing to take visits even after publicly committing indicates that those assumptions may have been inaccurate, or if they were accurate at one point, may not be any longer.

The only real risk to Notre Dame here is if Dante actually commits elsewhere b/c of one of these visits. But that's more (Moore?) on the staff for putting all their eggs in his basket than on Dante. If he wants to go see Texas A&M, that's his business. Hopefully he'll see that Texas A&M sucks.

There are a lot more risks than that. But it is what it is. We won't be able to comment on whether or not the staff could have played this better until after the dust settles with Moore and Vizzina.

 

[T-Boone]

I don’t think there’s any doubt he silently committed a while ago. The real question to ponder if you’re asking is whether that really matters.

Yep a silent commit is even less of a commitment than a verbal commitment.
It is more of a reservation.

 

[stlnd01]

Reading between the lines: (1) Moore tried to commit to Freeman, but wanted to still take visits; (2) Freeman told Moore to take them first before committing publicly; (3) ND has been using Moore's silent to generate buzz with other recruits, which is partly why we've got so much momentum now; and (4) everyone was looking forward Moore taking his 5th and final OV so he could go public with his commitment and shut everything down.

His dad's recent comments about Moore continuing to take visits even after publicly committing indicates that those assumptions may have been inaccurate, or if they were accurate at one point, may not be any longer.

There are a lot more risks than that. But it is what it is. We won't be able to comment on whether or not the staff could have played this better until after the dust settles with Moore and Vizzina.

Yeah that all seems completely plausible. Likely, even, given how everyone closely connected to Notre Dame is acting like he's in the bag. And probably the right move by Freeman. The bit about taking visits post-commit is concerning, as, frankly, is doing things like taking an unofficial to A&M at this point in the game, and thus preserving an OV. He did same with Miami. Am I correct that he's only OV'd to Oregon and LSU at this point? If so, this could drag further.

Still, I suspect Freeman & Co. know how to close this deal. I can't say there's yet any real sign of Moore actually going anyplace else. Sure as shit isn't going to Michigan.

 

[Luckylucci]

Yeah that all seems completely plausible. Likely, even, given how everyone closely connected to Notre Dame is acting like he's in the bag. And probably the right move by Freeman. The bit about taking visits post-commit is concerning, as, frankly, is doing things like taking an unofficial to A&M at this point in the game, and thus preserving an OV. He did same with Miami. Am I correct that he's only OV'd to Oregon and LSU at this point? If so, this could drag further.

Still, I suspect Freeman & Co. know how to close this deal. I can't say there's yet any real sign of Moore actually going anyplace else. Sure as shit isn't going to Michigan.

Yes, those are the only 2 OV's he's taken giving him 3 left.

 

[GATTACA!]

Yes, those are the only 2 OV's he's taken giving him 3 left.

Even in a worst case scenario I would assume ND still gets one of those. So really 2 left.

 

[Luckylucci]

The problem isn't what the Moore's do. The problem is what the Moore's told our staff to ultimately get them to shut down QB recruiting for Dante. And, at this point, we can say with a tremendous amount of confidence, the goal posts have moved A LOT. Heck, they're still moving.

 

[notredomer23]

Maybe if we offer his younger brother, Legend, a scholarship, that’ll put this over the top.

Italics about the scholarship portion, not the name.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Maybe if we offer his younger brother, Legend, a scholarship, that’ll put this over the top.

Italics about the scholarship portion, not the name.

Parents dropped the ball by not naming him Phil

 

[ColinKSU]

I'm not sure if anyone else listened to ISD Power Hour today.

Mike Frank said it's not early enough to panic about Dante.
But then he went on to say that Dante is "taking this too far"..."he's hurting the class"...he's been to "all these places a million times"...and "surely he already knows where to go"

And then he summed it up by saying that it's time for ND in his option to "pull the plug on this" because he "doesn't want to go after kids like this".

Jaime and Matt quickly replied, but you can tell they were biting their tongues to not offend their boss too much lol

Mike was definitely on his bullshit with that rant, but the point that it doesn’t help the class is a fair one. Now he’s under no obligation to help a ND class may not even be a part of, but having a five-star QB in *any* team’s class is going to raise the level of talent he’ll have around him.

Dante is allowed to take all the time he needs, but I think the recruiting timeline is typically sped up for QBs for a reason. It’s unfair, but OL wants to know who they’re blocking for, RBs want to know who’s giving them the ball and WRs want to know who they’re catching passes from.

 

[arrowryan]

Nice to see the staff learned their lesson from Amorion Walker.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Nice to see the staff learned their lesson from Amorion Walker.

Wait, what?
I'm not seeing the anology here, at all lol.
Compaing a 3 star committed player, who talked behind NDs back / lied to them out right

vs an elite 5 star qb who is uncommitted and using his permitted visits...

 

[arahop]

F.U.N.D Dante Moore

 

[arrowryan]

Wait, what?
I'm not seeing the anology here, at all lol.
Compaing a 3 star committed player, who talked behind NDs back / lied to them out right

vs an elite 5 star qb who is uncommitted and using his permitted visits...

If he has silently committed to them, idk how they could be comfortable with him visiting other schools. Especially when they 100% shut QB recruiting down for this class.

It’s not a perfect comparison, but it reminds me of that shit show from last cycle.

 

[stlnd01]

Mike was definitely on his bullshit with that rant, but the point that it doesn’t help the class is a fair one. Now he’s under no obligation to help a ND class may not even be a part of, but having a five-star QB in *any* team’s class is going to raise the level of talent he’ll have around him.

Dante is allowed to take all the time he needs, but I think the recruiting timeline is typically sped up for QBs for a reason. It’s unfair, but OL wants to know who they’re blocking for, RBs want to know who’s giving them the ball and WRs want to know who they’re catching passes from.

Are we struggling to land OLs, WRs and RBs right now? Took a bit but offense seems to have come together pretty fast lately.

Whiskey theorized that we’re using Dante’s silent to generate buzz with offensive recruits. And maybe we are, which maybe means if he goes elsewhere we lose, I dunno, Rico Flores?

If that’s the cost of pursuing a Top 10 player at QB instead of Angeli and Drew Pyne, OK. I’ll take that chance. Is Bama sweating their lack of a QB right now? Georgia?

Also I wonder if that old build-your-class-around-a-QB approach holds in an NIL world, when QBs will have the most market value and will want to maximize it. By doing the sort of thing Dante’s doing now.

 

[Chicago Domer]

Doesn’t matter, Angeli starts 23 and 24 anyway. History speaks!!!!

 

[Dale]

If he has silently committed to them, idk how they could be comfortable with him visiting other schools.

To be fair, isn’t that the main reason silent commits are a thing? To finish visits. Ex. what are the odds Limar committed in some fashion at the blue and gold game and still took his last couple visits to Arizona and Arizona State.

When guys are silents for a few weeks that’s just a sign of the times and video edits and CBS sports HQ scheduling

 

[JD Irish]

If you have followed ND recruiting for any period of time, then you understand that there is zero chance Dante Moore signs with and plays for ND.

 

[Blazers46]

September 3, 2022. Dante Moore thread will be at 11k posts. Tyler Buchner throws for 500 yards, 5 TDS and Notre Dame beats Ohio State 56-35. The thread dies a natural death. Moore commits to Jackson State in November, nobody cares.

 

[Ndaccountant]

September 3, 2022. Dante Moore thread will be at 11k posts. Tyler Buchner throws for 500 yards, 5 TDS and Notre Dame beats Ohio State 56-35. The thread dies a natural death. Moore commits to Jackson State in November, nobody cares.

 

[CoachB]

I still think Dante is all Irish. I get those "red flags" that were posted, but Dante just isn't an attention hog. That's not who he is. If I was in his shoes, I would love ND, be silently committed to them and absolutely want to take a free red carpet visit to the best game on the schedule to whatever teams I want. I would love to go to a game day atmosphere at one of those places for free. Once in a lifetime experience. Why wouldn't you use up those OV's on attending some games for free? Get wined and dined and treated like a hero, have a great time, then go back and make the only decision that was ever in my head, and choose ND. The perfect place for Dante.

 

[Irish#1]

We all want the recruits to commit asap to put our minds at ease, but given the changes we’ve seen we’re going to see Moore of this type of recruitment.

 

[dublinirish]

it was the same shenanigans when ND was recruiting Tuitt, Lynch and Ishaq that one year tbf