'22 WA WR Tobias Merriweather (Notre Dame Signee)

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He makes Kevin Austin look like tin man. Not sayig he's immediately better but Austin was built out of concrete.
 

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Anyone who is a 247 sub, Tobias’ dad started a thread on their message board and is answering questions. Pretty interesting stuff.
 

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Dom likes the attention that Tobias' recruitment has brought, and I'm all for it. Since the BBQ incident his social media comments have been killer. Dude cracks me up! Wish I had 247.
 

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That was a good discussion on NIL, so I moved it to the appropriate thread.
 

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Interesting he doesnt think very highly of Hartline

Interesting indeed. Wonder why.

Yeah wonder why?

My educated guess is that it's because he's a scUM fan.

One of his responses kind of seemed to question whether Hartline is actually a good coach, or if his WR's are just elite players in general that make him look good.

(Seems kind of silly, because even if he were just an average coach that was benefiting from having elite WR's at his disposal, and even if those guys would be elite playing anywhere.... he still has to recruit those elite players and convince them that OSU's system is the best thing for them. And he also has to have them ready to go, as evidenced by how successful guys have been as freshmen and sophomores for OSU recently. Just came off as sour grapes to me for some reason, though he obviously didn't elaborate as to whether or not there was also some personal interaction that turned them off.)
 

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Tobias almost didn’t get in. He had to cram in Spanish classes in 9 weeks because his sign language classes didn’t count and he didn’t know until late in the game.

Tobias’s dad is not a fan of some of the ND admissions policies. He said something like “get rid of that outdated shit” and he knows for a fact it turns kids off.
 

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Tobias almost didn’t get in. He had to cram in Spanish classes in 9 weeks because his sign language classes didn’t count and he didn’t know until late in the game.

Tobias’s dad is not a fan of some of the ND admissions policies. He said something like “get rid of that outdated shit” and he knows for a fact it turns kids off.

To me the foreign language one is the biggest issue. I took 4 years of honors Spanish in high school and now speak maybe 4 words of it. America is just not good at teaching foreign languages. I would have been so much better served by replacing those 4 classes with 4 more STEAM classes.
 

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He also confirmed essentially what we already knew about Walker in that "Michigan promised him the world" and that he understands the predicament.
 

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Can we also pour one out for Mr Merriweather has heaped praise on Del? Feel like the negative hits are making it here lol

Hes also expecting pretty eye popping #s from “5” this Spring in track is good to hear
 

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To me the foreign language one is the biggest issue. I took 4 years of honors Spanish in high school and now speak maybe 4 words of it. America is just not good at teaching foreign languages. I would have been so much better served by replacing those 4 classes with 4 more STEAM classes.

You're never going to master the language unless you immerse yourself in it. Pointless classes, and even more pointless to make it a requirement for admission.
 

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You're never going to master the language unless you immerse yourself in it. Pointless classes, and even more pointless to make it a requirement for admission.

If the standard for pointfulness is mastering the subject matter then I'm not sure how anybody should be spending their time in high school.
 

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I always thought people were joking when they said it is a requirement that you speak another language to get into ND.
Are there other schools in the US that have that requirement?
 

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I always thought people were joking when they said it is a requirement that you speak another language to get into ND.
Are there other schools in the US that have that requirement?

Yes, I think it’s fairly common to require multiple years of a foreign language at many Catholic and/or liberal arts schools.

Of course, now you don’t even need SAT scores or GPA’s at more and more schools, so who knows where will it will lead.
 

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I always thought people were joking when they said it is a requirement that you speak another language to get into ND.
Are there other schools in the US that have that requirement?

Yes it is very common. My foreign language was ASL.
 

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You're never going to master the language unless you immerse yourself in it. Pointless classes, and even more pointless to make it a requirement for admission.

It's not about mastering the language - like you said of course you're not going to do that in an hour in a classrom four days a week - it's about learning how to learn a variety of subjects and having a broad education. And yeah foreign language requirements are hardly unusual.

Notre Dame can require whatever it wants, the bigger issue to me is that apparently no one told the Merriweathers until pretty late in the game that ASL didn't count? A lot of recruits would've bailed at that point. Good on him/them for sticking with it and cramming Spanish.
 

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It's not about mastering the language - like you said of course you're not going to do that in an hour in a classrom four days a week - it's about learning how to learn a variety of subjects and having a broad education. And yeah foreign language requirements are hardly unusual.

Notre Dame can require whatever it wants, the bigger issue to me is that apparently no one told the Merriweathers until pretty late in the game that ASL didn't count? A lot of recruits would've bailed at that point. Good on him/them for sticking with it and cramming Spanish.

I'm just throwing this out there, but familiarity with a subject, let alone mastery, may be hampered by only going to school 4 days a week, instead of 5. :cowboy:
 

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Alright you guys pulled me in again to defend the academics at ND...

Notre Dame is a liberal arts school, which is a dying breed in the US unfortunately. The concept is not to prepare students for a specific career, but to train them to be thinkers and productive members of society. That's why ND requires the First Year of Studies so students have a foundation for the following 3 years. No one at ND expects the average student to be fluent in French because they take the 3 required semesters of a foreign language. The expectation is that you are given a comprehensive education that allows one to draw from different disciplines and experiences during life. That's why everyone is required to take multiple philosophy and theology courses, pass calculus, and to have x number of science courses in order to graduate. ND educates the whole person, not just training for a vocation. This is the way higher education used to be; the lack of classical education is evident by the growing number of morons and idiots in contemporary society.

This is not a state school that has a mission to educate as many of its citizens as possible. ND values itself as an elite educational institution in the US and that plays out in its educational philosophy. You guys can bitch and moan about the foreign language requirement all you want, but that's missing the point by a wide, wide margin. I can't say that I retained a lot of specific knowledge about economics from my degree program, but I sure as shit learned how to apply neoclassical economic theory to all parts of my career and life. And that's the whole point. Notre Dame exists to educate the whole person, not to prepare students for a job.

I'm not sure why we need to continually rehash this. ND isn't changing and it shouldn't. You guys should embrace it.
 
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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/coach_dom21/status/1485826444282318849?s=21[/TWEET]

Papa Merriweather isn’t happy with On3
 

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[TWEET]https://twitter.com/coach_dom21/status/1485826444282318849?s=21[/TWEET]

Papa Merriweather isn’t happy with On3

That Notre Dame Recruiting page has some outrageous takes sometimes, but this one ain't wrong. Don't screw with the Merriweathers!
 

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Yeah, I'm with Pops on this one.

On3's rankings were pretty accurate for the most part re: ND's class. But they had some insane outliers. Tobias and Gobaira stick out like sore thumbs. Just cannot figure out what On3 was watching when they came up with those ratings.
 
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