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I understand the complaints but, at the same time some of you dont seem to appreciate how difficult it must be to write thousands of pages of novel into 10 episodes of tv. By necessity it going to have some lazy and predictable stuff, but overall I think they have done pretty well with the task presented.
Peter Jackson did it in under ten hours. We're not talking about "thousands" of pages of text in ten episodes of TV because this is season six.
 

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You could be right about Dany and Jon. I think Jon does what it takes to make friends bc he knows he'll need the dragons to defeat the dead.

Have we seen Jon around fire in the book or show? Any way he could also be unburnt? Would be a good reason for Dany to ally with him.
 

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A few questions after this episode:

1. Would pre-death Jon have charged the frontline?

2. Will Sansa really follow a redemptive story arc or will she meet a sudden death after dealings with Littlefinger?

This late in the season, I hate when storylines go black. Where is Arya? What is happening in King's Landing? Where is Bran? White walkers? I wish they'd have offered a small scene to carry these stories forward.

the Good:

The battle scene was incredibly well done. The intensity of the fight scene was one of, if not the best, I have ever seen. This show has raised the bar for quality fight scenes.

Ramsay is dead

The Bad:

Predictable but appetizing.

It appears all giants are gone, except perhaps in the White Walker army.

Ramsay couldn't die painfully enough.

Jon Snow's death appears to have made him a slave to impulse. Strange development for him, I thought something a little more nuanced would've occurred.

Synopsis:

Fun episode to watch. GRRM/show authors are in a difficult situation: they can't do the unthinkable because that is now expected (I actually thought the Knights of the Vale were going to be on Ramsay's side and finish the job, leaving Snow alive under dead bodies). He also can't do the expected, because it's trite.

The show is still enjoyable but it has lost some of the intrigue. Hope the last episode goes out with a bang and leaves us with enough questions to spend the next 9 months trying to figure out where it's headed.
 

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You could be right about Dany and Jon. I think Jon does what it takes to make friends bc he knows he'll need the dragons to defeat the dead.

I think it also matters when they meet. As we all suspect, if Jon is a Targarean, when Dany finds that out matters. Her reaction could be very different one way or another.

The only thing we know for sure is that people will bitch either way.
 

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I think it also matters when they meet. As we all suspect, if Jon is a Targarean, when Dany finds that out matters. Her reaction could be very different one way or another.

The only thing we know for sure is that people will bitch either way.

If he doesn't stab her through her anorexic, bat shit crazy, heart then I will def be bitching...


(btw, they don't have red beans and rice in this world??)
 

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If he doesn't stab her through her anorexic, bat shit crazy, heart then I will def be bitching...


(btw, they don't have red beans and rice in this world??)

I bet they only have flour tortillas as well.

The shame.
 

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I had a thought last night after watching. Mind you, I dont read the books, but love the show.
I wondered if any of you, like myself, feel that next season(or any time going forward) Jon Snow will finally meet back up with Bran, and he will look back in the past to find out Jon's true lineage?
 

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If he doesn't stab her through her anorexic, bat shit crazy, heart then I will def be bitching...


(btw, they don't have red beans and rice in this world??)

Oh he's gonna stab her, just won't be in the heart....

;)
 

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Call me crazy, but I thought the best part of the episode was Dany and Asha conversation (Yara? I forget her show name). I said awhile ago I thought they'd use her as a stand in for Victarion and I actually think this alteration from the books is a straight net positive.

Second best part was Sansa feeding Ramsay to his dogs. Very fitting end.

Here are my nitpicks:
1. How the fuck do you completely cut the Manderlys? The entire plot line and intrigue of the northern houses seemed comically underdeveloped. Very disappointed.
2. Would've been much better not showing Sansa writing the letter... no surprise having Knights of Vale show up exactly when they did.
3. Where the fuck is Ghost during that entire battle?
4. Made no sense Ramsay shooting Wun Wun and not Jon, nor him standing right there in the courtyard and taking that shot while everyone around him did nothing.

I thought the Rickon running scene was intriguing because he missed the first arrow where he "tried" after intentionally missing the first couple. I thought the action itself was great, especially some of the cinematography... rather unique way of showing fighting. I thought Wun Wun was great (especially his "siege breaking") and it was emotional when he died. I'm gonna miss him.
 

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1. How the fuck do you completely cut the Manderlys? The entire plot line and intrigue of the northern houses seemed comically underdeveloped. Very disappointed.

The North does not remember, apparently. Hoped the Smalljon might turn on Ramsay at some point, too, but no dice.
 

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Call me crazy, but I thought the best part of the episode was Dany and Asha conversation (Yara? I forget her show name). I said awhile ago I thought they'd use her as a stand in for Victarion and I actually think this alteration from the books is a straight net positive

I meant to mention this in my post last night, but it was an amazing scene.

My wife thinks that only women will be left standing at the end of the series. That scene where Dany and Asha/Yara came to terms made it seem plausible.

Two powerful women strike an agreement that will help both of them achieve their Thrones, and Arya is running around with a bunch of plot armor and bad intentions. #GirlPower

It's much more likely that Asha/Yara dies in battle and that Dany loses her mind at some point, of course, but it was still a powerful scene and was a perfect example of book-inspired politics that the show could use some more of.
 

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Best episode of the SERIES.

Dude...come on. The battle was absolutely epic and there were some other bright spots but The Rains of Castemere was one of the craziest things to ever happen on television. People who had not read the books were talking about it for MONTHS.

Hardhome's action was just as cool and the leadup and aftermath were significantly better.

Baelor set the tone for the entire series.

I have at least 5 more episodes higher on my personal favorite list but I think most people would agree the 3 I mentioned are better.
 

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Dude...come on. The battle was absolutely epic and there were some other bright spots but The Rains of Castemere was one of the craziest things to ever happen on television. People who had not read the books were talking about it for MONTHS.

Hardhome's action was just as cool and the leadup and aftermath were significantly better.

Baelor set the tone for the entire series.

I have at least 5 more episodes higher on my personal favorite list but I think most people would agree the 3 I mentioned are better.
+The Blackwater, The Mountain and the Viper, Cripples, Bastards, and Broken Things, The Watchers on the Wall.

Off the top of my head.
 

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Did anyone else feel like Wun Wun was amazingly shit at fighting? I feel like he should have been able to break the shield wall by jumping, kicking, throwing dudes, being a fucking giant. But he got trapped like a bitch. Also, where TF was Ghost?
 
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Did anyone else feel like Wun Wun was amazingly shit at fighting? I feel like he should have been able to break the shield wall by jumping, kicking, throwing dudes, being a fucking giant. But he got trapped like a bitch. Also, where TF was Ghost?

He had like 100 arrows and spears in him, c'mon.

Also, who would send their dire wolf into obvious death? There is zero chances of a wolf surviving a battle like that. I would have left his ass at doggy-daycare too.
 

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Did anyone else feel like Wun Wun was amazingly shit at fighting? I feel like he should have been able to break the shield wall by jumping, kicking, throwing dudes, being a fucking giant. But he got trapped like a bitch. Also, where TF was Ghost?

The whole Wun Wun fight was really awkward. You could tell they didn't have the budget necessary to show him tearing through a full crowd of people and could only afford him picking up three or so random soldiers. The funny part was that it was obvious that the director/editor didn't know what to do to "fix" this awkwardness because there are plenty of shots of him just standing there not doing and there are dozens of massive spears hovering like two inches from his stomach/chest but none of them ever lunge forward to cut/impale him. Was pretty apparent that they didn't have the budget/ability to show a real giant fight.
 

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Just finished the episode but haven't gotten through all the comments yet.

I think that episode all but confirmed that Sansa is pregnant with Ramsey's baby.
 
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