'18 PA QB Phil Jurkovec (Wherever I May Roam Chud)

Irish#1 · May 20, 2016

PANDFAN said:
while A LOT of what he has been saying is very close to things blake barnett said...the 2 BIG differences are that 1. he isn't from cali and 2. he has a bunch of guys that are committed from his area...not to mention his relationship w/ sanford

Someone verify that he doesn't own an ND golf bag please.

GBdomer · May 21, 2016

PANDFAN said:
while A LOT of what he has been saying is very close to things blake barnett said...the 2 BIG differences are that 1. he isn't from cali and 2. he has a bunch of guys that are committed from his area...not to mention his relationship w/ sanford

Plus we don't have to deal with his father, Blake was a total helicopter father and didn't always see eye to eye with BK. He was insane

Domina Nostra · May 23, 2016

According to Irish Insider and ISD, we have NOTHING at all to worry about.

It sounds like barring some personal betrayal or catastrophe, Phil is all ND. He and the family are huge fans and committed to ND first and foremost, not the coaches.

This is great news. My favorite kind of commits are fanboys!

GreyWorm · May 23, 2016

The Jurkovec family has also heard the rumors and noise that comes with being a hot, young assistant coach and the potential of Sanford leaving played into the decision. It’s evident Jurkovec would love for Sanford and Kelly to coach him, but the decision went deeper than coaches.

“The line I have been using is ‘Unless the Golden Dome falls over, I don’t think there is going to be any major change,’” laughed the elder Jurkovec. “We understand completely that people have career paths and that if certain things were to happen, Phil made a decision with the idea he would love to play for Coach Sanford and Coach Kelly, but ultimately, he wants to play for Notre Dame.”

ISD - Jurkovec a Golden Domer Through and Through - Irish Sports Daily

IrishLion · May 23, 2016

I heard from some really good sources that Robert Beal was "as solid as they get. His family is locked in to ND, no matter what."

There's no such thing as a sure thing anymore haha.

Booslum31 · May 23, 2016

GreyWorm said:
The Jurkovec family has also heard the rumors and noise that comes with being a hot, young assistant coach and the potential of Sanford leaving played into the decision. It’s evident Jurkovec would love for Sanford and Kelly to coach him, but the decision went deeper than coaches.

“The line I have been using is ‘Unless the Golden Dome falls over, I don’t think there is going to be any major change,’” laughed the elder Jurkovec. “We understand completely that people have career paths and that if certain things were to happen, Phil made a decision with the idea he would love to play for Coach Sanford and Coach Kelly, but ultimately, he wants to play for Notre Dame.”

ISD - Jurkovec a Golden Domer Through and Through - Irish Sports Daily

Good article...sounds like a real down to earth family. I liked the last line, "He is really going to enjoy ND and ND is really going to enjoy him".

GBdomer · May 23, 2016

IrishLion said:
I heard from some really good sources that Robert Beal was "as solid as they get. His family is locked in to ND, no matter what."

There's no such thing as a sure thing anymore haha.

Robert's family was totally on board with him going to ND. It was more about joining his sister which I guess was a family call. But I believe the family is sold on ND just like Robert was for a while. Still wonder who was pushing them to play together so much, probably the parents? Roberts sister?

IrishLion · May 24, 2016

GBdomer said:
Robert's family was totally on board with him going to ND. It was more about joining his sister which I guess was a family call. But I believe the family is sold on ND just like Robert was for a while. Still wonder who was pushing them to play together so much, probably the parents? Roberts sister?

I know they were totally on board, and the family really is all-in on ND... but without going into too much detail, I was essentially told that "100%, no matter what happens, Robert is as solid as they get." But then the sister thing happened and he "eliminated" ND, which was directly contrary to what I heard.

Like you, I'd love to know what changed, but I don't want to bother the people that I talked to originally. My point relating to Phil is that no matter what they say about "even if things change...", they are always a flight risk these days in some way, shape or form.

PANDFAN · May 25, 2016

sanford went to pitt to see him throw at practice on tuesday to show just how much we are interested w/ him--247

stlnd01 · May 25, 2016

IrishLion said:
. My point relating to Phil is that no matter what they say about "even if things change...", they are always a flight risk these days in some way, shape or form.

Of course they are. And then they're a transfer/flunk-out risk. Feels like you can't really count on someone sticking with the program until they're like a junior. (and even then...)
But, whatever. That's the game. And, IMO, you're almost always better off having a kid committed than not.

rtrn2glory · May 26, 2016

PANDFAN said:
sanford went to pitt to see him throw at practice on tuesday to show just how much we are interested w/ him--247

Panda that new avatar...... Wow!!!!!!

Domina Nostra · May 26, 2016

stlnd01 said:
Of course they are. And then they're a transfer/flunk-out risk. Feels like you can't really count on someone sticking with the program until they're like a junior. (and even then...)
But, whatever. That's the game. And, IMO, you're almost always better off having a kid committed than not.

RB's family in Georgia may have been "on-board" with ND, but that is differnt that a Catholic family from Pennsylvania who all grew up die hard ND fans. Also Beale was still planning on taking other visits.

Some kids are flight risks, others aren't. Obviously the situation could change enough where a kid could leave without it being flight (see Baylor), but that is clearly differnt.

I am not worried about Phil on any level unless things change dramatically-- like Kelly leaves and they hire a guy who only wants 6'5" pocket passers.

IrishLion · May 26, 2016

stlnd01 said:
Of course they are. And then they're a transfer/flunk-out risk. Feels like you can't really count on someone sticking with the program until they're like a junior. (and even then...)
But, whatever. That's the game. And, IMO, you're almost always better off having a kid committed than not.

Domina Nostra said:
RB's family in Georgia may have been "on-board" with ND, but that is differnt that a Catholic family from Pennsylvania who all grew up die hard ND fans. Also Beale was still planning on taking other visits.

Some kids are flight risks, others aren't. Obviously the situation could change enough where a kid could leave without it being flight (see Baylor), but that is clearly differnt.

I am not worried about Phil on any level unless things change dramatically-- like Kelly leaves and they hire a guy who only wants 6'5" pocket passers.

I agree with you guys. My original point in bringing up the Robert Beal thing was essentially that it's useless for a guy like Keith Arnold to write a "this is as solid as a commit gets!" article in this day and age.

BobbyMac · May 26, 2016

Domina Nostra said:
RB's family in Georgia may have been "on-board" with ND, but that is differnt that a Catholic family from Pennsylvania who all grew up die hard ND fans. Also Beale was still planning on taking other visits.

Some kids are flight risks, others aren't. Obviously the situation could change enough where a kid could leave without it being flight (see Baylor), but that is clearly differnt.

I am not worried about Phil on any level unless things change dramatically-- like Kelly leaves and they hire a guy who only wants 6'5" pocket passers.

If that happens, Phil will simply stay in the pocket.

BobbyMac · May 26, 2016

IrishLion said:
I agree with you guys. My original point in bringing up the Robert Beal thing was essentially that it's useless for a guy like Keith Arnold to write a "this is as solid as a commit gets!" article in this day and age.

Disagree. This is a lock. Family is on record saying that he's going to play for ND, not the staff and IF Kelly left, PJ can play in any offensive system.

IrishLion · May 26, 2016

NDCrusader said:
Disagree. This is a lock. Family is on record saying that he's going to play for ND, not the staff and IF Kelly left, PJ can play in any offensive system.

It was the same sh*t with Blake Barnett, and it was the same stuff I heard with Robert Beal from people I talked to when he originally committed.

I'll never believe it's a lock until the papers are signed and the guy's on campus taking reps.

EDIT: I want to make it VERY clear that I am not doubting this commitment. I just think it's funny to see an article from an ND reporter that calls any commitment "as solid as they get."

BobbyMac · May 26, 2016

IrishLion said:
It was the same sh*t with Blake Barnett, and it was the same stuff I heard with Robert Beal from people I talked to when he originally committed.

I'll never believe it's a lock until the papers are signed and the guy's on campus taking reps.

EDIT: I want to make it VERY clear that I am not doubting this commitment. I just think it's funny to see an article from an ND reporter that calls any commitment "as solid as they get."

Also disagree about the Barnett comparison. Barnett Sr. was a known Choppa Dad with no cultural connection to ND. They used ND and wanted something else down the road from day 1... It kick started his marketing campaign because he was trailing Rosen, Town, etc in the recognition game. The other thing they weren't interested in was staring down the double barrel of Zaire and Kizer through 2017 & '18. They played it perfectly.

The Beal deal... who knows? If he ends up in South bend, I guess they were right.

I feel you on your position. I'm that way 90% of the time. But guys like Hoge, Crawford, Kraemer, Lugg, Werner, Adams and now Phil. I gave/give them .00001% chance of flipping.

TDHeysus · May 26, 2016

I apologize if this has already been part of the discussion....

What happens next year when Jurkovec wants to take visits to other schools as part of the recruitment process? Does BK allow this? (my understanding of the Barnett fall out was that BB wanted to visit other schools and BK wasn't down with that. Its my understanding was that the phone got hung up on someone). Whats to stop that scenario from happening this(next) year?

ResLife Hero · Jun 13, 2016

Evidently had a rough outing at the 5 star challenge.

https://n.rivals.com/news/rivals100-five-star-challenge-the-farrell-awards

TUNNEL VISION: QB PHIL JURKOVEC

This isn't an award you want to win, as it goes to the quarterback who locked in on his targets way too often. The recipient was clearly 2018 quarterback Phil Jurkovec, who stared down way too many targets and was a bit slow in his release even when he stuck on his first read.

Honorable Mention: Lowell Narcisse tends to lock onto his initial target at times. Chris Robison can as well, especially when his first read is to his right, because he has some trouble throwing across his body with accuracy and zip.

THE WINDUP AND THE PITCH: QB PHIL JURKOVEC

This award, if you can call it that, goes to the quarterback with the most deliberate delivery -- not a good thing. The only underclassmen quarterback at the event, Phil Jurkovec, has a deliberate delivery, which often leads to the ball coming out a tick too slow. As a 2018 prospect, he has plenty of time to work on it, and as a dual-threat it doesn’t hurt him in games as much as it would if he were a statue in the pocket.

Honorable Mention: The only other quarterback who could afford to speed things up a bit would be Jake Allen, who is inconsistent not only in his footwork but also in the speed of his release.

Booslum31 · Jun 13, 2016

ResLife Hero said:
Evidently had a rough outing at the 5 star challenge.

https://n.rivals.com/news/rivals100-five-star-challenge-the-farrell-awards

I guess because he has so much time to work on this...I'm not concerned. Great experience for him.

GrangerIrish24 · Jun 13, 2016

Farrell is an ass hat who has less credibility than Loy. I've met him on several occasions and have nothing but negative things to say about the guy. The guy couldn't predict a storm if he was standing in it.

BobbyMac · Jun 13, 2016

Farrell's snarky spiel would play well if he were an IE member but in his position discussing young people, it always comes across as grit & grime to me. I'd prefer to watch Justin Hopkins sing Ice Ice Baby at All You Can Eat Sushi and Karaoke.

GreyWorm · Jun 13, 2016

I think it's a fair assessment by Farrell, as it's true. It could be done in much less arrogant style of writing though.

He's a to-be-junior, of course he is going to look behind the other quarterbacks who have a year on him. It's his first go around at this types of camps and it's a different style of football than what is played on Friday nights. Then you add in the QBs are throwing against of the best DBs in the country, it's a learning experience. If this is said next year at this time, I'd be surprised.

Jurkovec and Davis are similar in that they aren't going to blow guys away, but on Friday's they are going to make plays bc they can move around, extend plays, etc.

PANDFAN · Jun 16, 2016

will be back to work w/ mike sanford next week at camp-247

GBdomer · Jun 16, 2016

PANDFAN said:
will be back to work w/ mike sanford next week at camp-247

This bump scared me why did you do this?!?!

IrishLax · Jun 27, 2016

Another Great Visit to ND for Jurkovec - Irish Sports Daily

BobbyMac · Jun 29, 2016

Didn't open up Top 10 on Scout like he did on 247 but Scout was sleeping on him from the beginning. They haven't rated him as of yet. Currently there are 11 rated QB's, two 5 stars and nine 4 stars. 124 players overall.

PJ stands as the #2 QB and #9 OA on 247 and a 4 star on Rivals. He was named to their Rivals100.

Big23Head · Jun 30, 2016

NDCrusader said:
Didn't open up Top 10 on Scout like he did on 247 but Scout was sleeping on him from the beginning. They haven't rated him as of yet. Currently there are 11 rated QB's, two 5 stars and nine 4 stars. 124 players overall.

PJ stands as the #2 QB and #9 OA on 247 and a 4 star on Rivals. He was named to their Rivals100.

#46 overall and #4 QB on Scout