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Lynch and Tuitt are going to be a force.
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He is the Spirit Animal of all Spring Game MVP's.
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In my many years I've never have watched a spring game for that very same reason. Spring is essentially for awakening us from the winter slumber and renewing our hopes, much like Mother Nature does every year.
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Bogtrotter07
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I agree with you more or less.
Less when it comes to two things :
This year was a well orchestrated scrimmage, with everyone playing at a higher level than I have personally ever seen at a spring game. And that goes back a few years, and across a number of teams over the years.
And this year there was no Junior Jabbie. Guys that did well in the spring game, did well all season long.
As far as Corey Holmes, he had a pretty good spring. Just didn't translate into a good spring game.
As far as Torii, he will be moving all over this fall. Coaches said so.
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There will never be another Junior Jabbie as long as BK has a running clock in the second half unfortunately. It robs all the walk on's, players stuck down the depth chart of a chance of making any sort of noise
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How many walk-ons are on the team, though?
Do their number warrant a full second half? Because the rest of the team doesn't have too many guys that are stuck at the bottom of the depth chart and struggling to get reps in the first half of that game. Most guys NEED to be active to simulate a full first half. Do you want key depth guys playing a full second half and risking injury, in order to get a few more reps for the walk-ons?
I don't know where I stand personally; I don't think the risk of injury would be that great if they were to give the guys more time, but I also don't mind the current formula because "better safe than sorry."
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Is that just from one of the ISD staff members or what?
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Mike Frank. Dude is probably just being salty about what he thinks of the skill level of the WR corps.
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It was from MF the ISD podcast.
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koonja
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Mike Frank is a straight shooter, love his podcast.
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Power Hour is awesome. Y'all should listen.
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his bullets are of the old bastard variety though. Can't stand his voice and the way he whinges about Kelly all the time.
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As a life-long pessimist myself, there are always things to complain about, but I've been listening to Power Hour since the beginning, and I'd say Mike is complaining 95% of the time he's been on air. The guy must wake up annoyed by the state of the program.
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he hasn't been happy since 1988 I'd say.
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I think a lot of it has to do with ND being so close to being a championship caliber team. The closer we get, the more the program's shortcomings get magnified in an attempt to figure out what has to be done to ultimately get there. Mike definitely splits hairs and I think it's because he feels we're so close yet so far away.
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I just can't stand how he makes certain positions sound like they're in a state of panic every year. Over the last two to three cycles, we've done a nice job recruiting LBs and WRs. But when you hear MF talk about those positions, he makes it sound like we're starting walk ons at every position. ISD would be much more listenable if MF toned down the dooms day rhetoric.
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koonja
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That is one of the reasons I dropped my sub to ISD about three years ago. Mike Frank and his incessant negativity. The program is not like when Lou was around and won't be. Just have to be happy with what we have and deal with it. Are the Irish going to go to 9 straight New Year's Day Bowls and go 5-3 like Lou did from 1988 to 1993? Probably not. But they can contend for a playoff spot and Kelly already has had a 12-0 season with a schedule in 2012 that was not easy.
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I think it's three things: delivery, repitition, and weird swings between negativity and positivity.
"IIIIIIII'm telling ya.....(insert uninteresting talking point)...it just is."
He uses various forms of this style of phrasing that are too aggressive. He has a Midwestern softness to his voice but speaks more in a declarative shock jock fashion--like he's yelling at his listeners but in a polite way. He's not engaging/charming/provocative enough to pull off the way he presents thoughts a lot of the time.
"You can't (insert banal football 101 talking point) you just can't!"
That's another common one. Then, he combines these phrases with the same talking points, often how we need to run the ball early, recruit better, or he's worried about depth. It gets really robotic and I tend to stop listening during the season.
Also, weird swings especially with players. He will be negative (which is fine it's his delivery that makes it so much worse) then he'll be like, "McGovern is gonna win the RG job. I really do think that," like he said a couple weeks ago. Just bizarre stuff from time to time. Last podcast, telling everyone Stepherson is the second best receiver. Eh, don't know bout that.
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Lol
But it does make you wonder. I'm pretty sure the depth chart looks like this:
1. Torii
2. Boykin or McKinley or Holmes or Sanders or St Brown or Stepherson
8. Claypool
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I am not sure where Claypool stands in the depth chart, but i would not be surprised to see him shoot up, quickly!
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ROC cityyyy
Yeah I just put him there due to my perception of him being raw. Obviously a high ceiling
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Honestly...has he been more right than wrong? He definitely is not an "everything is rosy" type of guy, and he is more negative than I am some of the time, but he is not as negative as some of you are painting. He does have many positive things to say, when he feels they are positive. He has many platitudes he has said about the team, and he calls things out when he thinks they are not-so-good.
Personally, I will take that all day over "we're going 12-0 baby!!!" that you often hear elsewhere. I've learned a lot about recruiting, the dirty antics of other coaches, the way recruits and recruiters talk about ND, etc since joining his old IrishEyes site like 12 years ago. And then when you talk to him at a tailgate, you REALLY get to hear about how dirty other recruiters are.
And one more thing...if you are a reporter and you have sources all over the Gug, you hear about the real shit that is going on. You hear that not all players give a shit, you hear what players will never play a down for the school, you hear which coaches aren't very good, you hear which coaches refuse to recruit hard, you hear which recruits want to be recruited by ND but ND never reaches out to them, etc etc. It gives you an insight to the program and why you might have a tough year (or, you might have a great year).
Anyway, it's a matter of preference. ISD is actually the most positive of al 4 pay-sites I have tried, and it's not close really. Mike is more pessimistic (or "keeps it real" - depending on your perspective), but the site overall, including the other reporters, is decidedly more upbeat than other sites. Makes for a good balance IMHO.
/end of my weekly defend ISD post haha.