'13 FL RB Tarean Folston (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

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So Rivals is doing a series on guys who will be deciding whether to go pro and one of the players is Folston. Their analysis reached the very obvious conclusion that he should stay but their prediction is Folston likely declares and enters the draft. This had never even entered my mind, I was surprised they even considered him as a player that could entertain the draft, so Im guessing their prediction is based on something they have been told from someone in the program or from Folston's camp. It would be such a boneheaded move for him personally and would be a shame for ND because I think Folston is poised for a nice season if he were to remain healthy. If he were to declare I would doubt that he even gets drafted.

https://notredame.n.rivals.com/news/stay-or-go-tarean-folston

Given no track record after injury there is no way he gets drafted.
 

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If he had stayed healthy then I would not complain, but this is a recipe for failure.

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Given no track record after injury there is no way he gets drafted.

If he can be 100% at the ND Pro Day (probably wouldn't get invited to Combine) then I think he could get drafted somewhere in the 5th-7th.

If Prosise returns next year, I'd be tempted to go if I were Folston. Adams has shown he needs carries, and Prosise>Folston for me as an all-around RB. I'd love to see both of those guys on the field together, but I'd rather see Prosise with the ball every time unless its 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1.
 

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On a lot of levels, I object to the entire line of logic to even have a series of articles on this topic. And then the quality/content is even worse.
 

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Tarean Folston leaving early for the NFL draft would be on the same level as Carlton Scott leaving early for the NBA draft (he didn't get drafted).
 

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If this is someone's guess based on no info then it's a bad one. Folston going pro makes zero sense. He would not be drafted.
 

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I would have to say that Running Back is the one position where I would tell a kid to take some money while you can, if you can. Your NFL career is probably going to last not much more than 3 years. Then again, a kid with injury problems should probably get his degree first, especially if it's from a top university like ND. Plus his NFL stock has got to be way low to non existant right now. He's not going to get any money worth passing getting his degree right now IMO.
 

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If he can be 100% at the ND Pro Day (probably wouldn't get invited to Combine) then I think he could get drafted somewhere in the 5th-7th.

If Prosise returns next year, I'd be tempted to go if I were Folston. Adams has shown he needs carries, and Prosise>Folston for me as an all-around RB. I'd love to see both of those guys on the field together, but I'd rather see Prosise with the ball every time unless its 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1.

It's so easy to forget how dynamic Folston was last year and even before injury against Texas. Folston was much better than anyone in our current backfield at finding the hole in short yardage situations and falling forward. I'd love to have him back and wouldn't mind at all if he took some of Prosise's carries given he recovers well from the knee.
 
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That is a HUGE thing.

IF ND has a trio of running backs, or quartette, (quintet isn't out of the question, but that is a little excessive and counterproductive,) that all know the office, and do whatever they are asked, as far as performance and effort, that offense with Kizer or Zaire will be a buzz saw. I mean it will melt through good defenses.

A key is having a fresh freak of a running back on every play. Which could be the case~!
 

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Given no track record after injury there is no way he gets drafted.

If he had stayed healthy then I would not complain, but this is a recipe for failure.

Agree with both comments. Folston needs a healthy productive season to boost his creeds.

Folston has 1378 yds, 266 carries, 5.2 ypc, 9 TDs with a long run of 43 yds.

4 players this year, 2 RBs Posise and Adama, and 2 QBs, Kiser and Wimbush, all of longer TD runs, 91, 98, 79, and 58.

Scoring wise Folston has 9 TDs in his career 266 carries. Posise has 11 in his first year at RB. Adams has 5 on 105 carries.

YPC Folston is 3rd with a solid 5.2. Posise is 6.6 and Adams 7.4.


At ND next season Folston could be one of a stable of RBs, ala the Holtz years, but barring injury to someone else he's not going to get the 175 carries in 2014. He could get 100-125 carries but not enough to hit a landmark 1000 yd season.

More likely than the draft, I could see Folston getting his degree and exploring the graduate transfer option to a prominent team needing a plug-in RB. Of course that option that turned out poorly for Golson. It's not a guaranteed road to the NFL. He could be a workhorse, get a 1000 yds and answer any questions about durability.

Or he could rise to the challenge of taking carries from Prosise and Adams and show his stuff in South Bend. ND still needs a goal line scorer.

The draft strikes me as the least likely option.
 
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I believe one of Prosie/ Folston is gone. I have a hard time seeing both of them coming back.
 

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I could see Prosise going. Has his degree, played enough at RB this year to show scouts what he can do. Don't see his stock climbing enough for him to come back next year. At this point it's time to get paid for all those hits a RB takes.
 

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From what I've heard from someone close to the program (not a reporter), as of right now, no one besides Stanley and Jaylon are expected to go pro (not including Russell...who knows what his status is). But the staff is fully aware that things change once players go home and families get involved. But as of right now, Prosise and Folston are expected to return.
 

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From what I've heard from someone close to the program (not a reporter), as of right now, no one besides Stanley and Jaylon are expected to go pro (not including Russell...who knows what his status is). But the staff is fully aware that things change once players go home and families get involved. But as of right now, Prosise and Folston are expected to return.

This would be good. Just gonna have to find a way to get 3 very good rb's carries, it's a good problem to have though.
 

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From what I've heard from someone close to the program (not a reporter), as of right now, no one besides Stanley and Jaylon are expected to go pro (not including Russell...who knows what his status is). But the staff is fully aware that things change once players go home and families get involved. But as of right now, Prosise and Folston are expected to return.
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'13 FL RB Tarean Folston (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

This would be good. Just gonna have to find a way to get 3 very good rb's carries, it's a good problem to have though.


Rb's always get injured. So I'm sure all three will have their share of carries during a season.


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I believe one of Prosie/ Folston is gone. I have a hard time seeing both of them coming back.

I could see Prosise going. Has his degree, played enough at RB this year to show scouts what he can do. Don't see his stock climbing enough for him to come back next year. At this point it's time to get paid for all those hits a RB takes.

Is one year enough to master a position?

Prosise is a talented athlete with great speed enabling to break long receptions and runs and excel as a gunner on Special Teams but even Golden Tate took a couple of years to become Biletnikoff caliber.

As a RB he's got one season. 156 carries in 10 games. He broke 1000 yds with 5 games over 125 yds and had another that just missed 100 but he also was held to 50 yds on 15 carries in a game that ND lost on a failed 2 point conversion. In ND's other loss to Stanford he did not play due to injury. He had 4 games with less than 60 yds rushing. He's not a bell cow breaking 20 carries only 3 times with 22 being the most carries.

He's a talented athlete but he needs to master a position to succeed at the next level. His speed alone is not going to cut it at the next level.

Keep in mind he played behind one of the finest OLines in college ball. Every RB AND QB averaged over 4 yds per carry. Adams as a true freshman averaged 7.5 ypc to Procise's 6.6.
 

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I think Folston will be a very valuable piece if he returns next year and with little chance of getting drafted is certainly best served by getting his degree. Personally I still think Folston is a more complete and better back than CJ he just did not play behind the same line, with the same QB, and suffered from Cam getting too many carries. ND should be ok at the RB position with or without him but really would like him to earn his degree and think he could quite possibly be the best RB on the roster next year. If we lose both Folston and CJ that will be a bit disappointing.
 

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This would be good. Just gonna have to find a way to get 3 very good rb's carries, it's a good problem to have though.

Plus you would think that a Dexter will be wanting to be more involved as well. But agreed, it's a good problem to have.
 

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'13 FL RB Tarean Folston (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

I think Folston will be a very valuable piece if he returns next year and with little chance of getting drafted is certainly best served by getting his degree. Personally I still think Folston is a more complete and better back than CJ he just did not play behind the same line, with the same QB, and suffered from Cam getting too many carries. ND should be ok at the RB position with or without him but really would like him to earn his degree and think he could quite possibly be the best RB on the roster next year. If we lose both Folston and CJ that will be a bit disappointing.


I don't think there is any doubt that Folston is the most complete back of the three. He is the best catching the ball out of the backfield, best blocker, best vision and best jump cut ability. The one thing he lacks is the extra gear of speed that CJ and Adams have.


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Tarean Folston leaving early for the NFL draft would be on the same level as Carlton Scott leaving early for the NBA draft (he didn't get drafted).

The major difference is Scott had his degree and passed on a fifth year he didnt leave early. I believe he also played pro ball overseas which obviously isnt an option in football.
 

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From what I've heard from someone close to the program (not a reporter), as of right now, no one besides Stanley and Jaylon are expected to go pro (not including Russell...who knows what his status is). But the staff is fully aware that things change once players go home and families get involved. But as of right now, Prosise and Folston are expected to return.

Great insight. Keep them coming.
 

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Stumbled on something that listed Folston in the ND column for NFL draft prospects this year. Didn't realize that was ever discussed until I sniffed in here. Is that still a thing or do we know he is staying fo sho?
 

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He's staying, think he had to declare yesterday. IMO either him or CJ would have left and CJ had the hot hand so he left. Just not enough carries
 

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I couldn't even believe it was ever in question. Thanks.

IMO he would have been foolish. Limited resume and a bum knee are not the ingredients for a good draft. Especially given RB's are not a hot commodity in today's pass happy league.
 

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Good for him for staying. The RB class next year will be strong, but I would imagine a strong season moves him way ahead of where he would have been drafted this year.. if he had been drafted at all.

Looking forward to the Adams-Folston 1-2 punch next year.
 

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I think he grades well for an NFL APB. Blocks well, catches well, slippery in tight spaces and always falls forward. I look at Matt Forte and think that is a great model for an NFL back that Folston could fit well enough. Still doesn't mean it drafts very high.
 

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Folston will probably be a solid draft pick at some point but he sure wasn't going to be this year.
 
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