College Football Playoff Rankings 2015 (ND #8...)

[NDgradstudent]

Cowturd talking up ND -and BK- a lot today.

 

[ACamp1900]

You know who this year's Florida team has reminded me of when I have sat down and watched them.... 2002 Notre Dame... they too were never a real legit title contender, despite what their record may have stated to the contrary at various points of the season...

 

[Legacy]

Alabama deserves its high spot and four other College Football Playoff rankings takeaways.

2. The retroactive biggest game of the year was played in a hurricane.

 

[ACamp1900]

lol... if ND shows up in the first five minutes of that game, or if we just hold onto the ball in the second half... ND is prob sitting at #1 right now...

 

[GoIrish41]

You know who this year's Florida team has reminded me of when I have sat down and watched them.... 2002 Notre Dame... they too were never a real legit title contender, despite what their record may have stated to the contrary at various points of the season...

What were you saying in 2002?

 

[ulukinatme]

What were you saying in 2002?

I was saying "This defense is pretty good, but holy hell our offense is awful"

 

[ACamp1900]

I was saying "This defense is pretty good, but holy hell our offense is awful"

EXACTLY THIS!.. LOL... I still remember the conversations over poker games with the college buddies...

 

[irishfanjho15]

Except that USC is going to win out and Stanford will probably win the Pac-12. I don't think any other potential playoff team will be able to put "defeated power five conference champion" on their resume.

I think this is important. If USC and Stanford play for Pac 12 championship. 11-1 ND with wins over both and a 2-pt. loss to ACC champion Clemson. I just don't see how ND does not get in. While ND would not have won the PAC championship, they would have a strong case by having beat the champion, and each division winner.

 

[Legacy]

lol... if ND shows up in the first five minutes of that game, or if we just hold onto the ball in the second half... ND is prob sitting at #1 right now...

Football Outsiders' FEI COLLEGE FOOTBALL RATINGS 2015 ranks Clemson #1 and Notre Dame #2 (our SOS is #3)

 

[RDU Irish]

What were you saying in 2002?

Pretty sure he was saying "Dillingham for Heisman!" like everyone else and posted Ty's coach of the year SI cover in his crib. That team had some big time flaws, still not sure how they got to 10-2 record. I do know that NC State team was pretty good and came out to kill. Besides imploding over a three game stretch they were pretty tough and capable of playing with anyone.

 

[GATTACA!]

Doomsday scenarios for how each Power 5 conference could get left out of the playoff

Stanford loses to Notre Dame but wins the Pac-12 title. In this scenario, the selection committee would have to choose between a two-loss conference champion (Stanford) and a one-loss team with the head-to-head win. This would be an interesting debate because it would force the committee to reveal what it considers more valuable: a conference title or a head-to-head result.

This is absurd. No way a 2 loss Stanford with a head to head loss gets in over a 11-1 ND. Idc if they have 5 conference championships.

 

[IrishLion]

I'm pretty much discounting Florida... they are this year's Miss St/SCar/Ole Miss ( "Any team with a good record in the SEC must be legit")... they've beaten absolutely no one to lead me to believe they are anything more than last year's Florida with an easier road...

The only team in the sec this year that I KNOW is legit is Bama... and that's it...

Yeah Im not on the FL bandwagon at all. Beating Ole Piss who lost to Memphis, a .500 TN team and a depleted GA team doesnt make you a worldbeater.

I don't think they're title contenders. I meant Wingman Ray is discounting them when he doesn't think it was a good day at the office when Brandon Harris of LSU was able to throw the ball around against them.

I didn't say they were world beaters. But beating Florida is a quality win, and having success against them through the air is an accomplishment. Good grief.

 

[T Town Tommy]

I think Fla took a hit when their QB got popped. If he had been available for the LSU game, it may have been a different outcome.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

538 gives us a 25% chance of making the playoff.

 

[RDU Irish]

So if LSU suspends Fournette for the CCG, they should get a free pass to the playoffs - even if they lose? Or, LSU goes undefeated but Fournette gets hurt on the last play of the game - do they lose their playoff spot because their Heisman lock won't play in the playoffs?

I think it is crap - judge them based on their record first, then adjust for excuses and who is playing best at the end - built to compete in the playoffs.

 

[BobbyMac]

Stanford loses to Notre Dame but wins the Pac-12 title. In this scenario, the selection committee would have to choose between a two-loss conference champion (Stanford) and a one-loss team with the head-to-head win. This would be an interesting debate because it would force the committee to reveal what it considers more valuable: a conference title or a head-to-head result.

This is absurd. No way a 2 loss Stanford with a head to head loss gets in over a 11-1 ND. Idc if they have 5 conference championships.

Two losses is an automatic disqualification with three or four P5 one or no loss champions, a 1 loss ND and an undefeated Memphis.

 

[JohnnyJasper]

Like I said earlier in a different thread - we basically control our own destiny. One game at a time fellas. Continue to get the wins and everything else should shake itself out.

 

[Cali_domer]

538 gives us a 25% chance of making the playoff.

USC has a 4% chance of making the Playoff?

 

[BobbyMac]

USC has a 4% chance of making the Playoff?

I find this to completely laughable. I'd put it between .4% and .04%

 

[ACamp1900]

Pretty sure he was saying "Dillingham for Heisman!" like everyone else and posted Ty's coach of the year SI cover in his crib. That team had some big time flaws, still not sure how they got to 10-2 record. I do know that NC State team was pretty good and came out to kill. Besides imploding over a three game stretch they were pretty tough and capable of playing with anyone.

IDK why, but I always have the memory of playing poker with my close college buddies and we are discussing that team while they are still unbeaten, none of them watch ND like I do, and they're actually like congratulating me for "ND being back," I remember telling them how this team is SO lucky to still be unbeaten and if it weren't for our defensive backs with pick sixes and ST plays we'd never score... I SOO wanted to be wrong...

 

[gkIrish]

538 gives us a 25% chance of making the playoff.

This definitely supports the thought that an undefeated Big 12 team is jumping us.

 

[koonja]

Coach D on BGI made a good point in their podcast today - last year, our 'good loss' to FSU did us no favors because everyone else on our schedule that we had beaten turned out to be crap.

Same scenario this year, one good loss, but more quality wins (what, like 26-5 our opponents are?). He says our ranking isn't as much to do with the good loss as it is we have better wins than we did last year. Said don't put too much into Clemson having to win out.

 

[NDohio]

Interesting dialogue on the blue bloods topic...

just off the top of my head... hopefully I'm not forgetting anyone, I have them at:

Stone Cold locks:

ND, USC, Oklahoma, Bama, tOSU

Pretty Comfortable:

Texas, Michigan, Nebraska (current circumstance noted, they still belong imo)

Right on the border line:

LSU, A&M, Tennessee, Penn State

MAYBE a case can be made for:

Pitt, Michigan State, FSU, Florida, Georgia, UCLA

SMU was well on their way to becoming a blue blood and then the grim reaper showed up.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Bama, LSU, and Florida are the only teams in the top 10 I would say have faced a tougher road to a high ranking than us so far

Let me ask everyone this question.

How many games do you think Bama, LSU, Florida, Ohio St., Baylor, TCU, and Clemson would lose if they played our schedule?

I would be shocked if any of them lost more than 2. I think the vast majority would lose 1.

Bama, LSU, and Clemson - 0 or 1

Florida, Baylor, TCU, and OSU - 1 or 2

Just because a team hasn't beaten a schedule like ours this year doesn't mean they couldn't tho. I agree that if a team(s) play a weak schedule they shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt as they haven't proved anything. But just because a team hasn't proved anything doesn't mean they aren't legit.

 

[BobbyMac]

I think this is important. If USC and Stanford play for Pac 12 championship. 11-1 ND with wins over both and a 2-pt. loss to ACC champion Clemson. I just don't see how ND does not get in. While ND would not have won the PAC championship, they would have a strong case by having beat the champion, and each division winner.

13-0 or 12-1 OSU/MSU/Iowa B1G champs

13-0 Clemson or 12-1 ACC Champions FSU or Clemson

13-0 LSU or 12-1 SEC Champs LSU, Bama or Florida

12-0 Baylor, TCU and OkSt.


ND can win out and still miss the playoffs. Believe it.

 

[GATTACA!]

13-0 or 12-1 OSU/MSU/Iowa B1G champs

13-0 Clemson or 12-1 ACC Champions FSU or Clemson

13-0 LSU or 12-1 SEC Champs LSU, Bama or Florida

12-0 Baylor, TCU and OkSt.


ND can win out and still miss the playoffs. Believe it.

According to FPI the odds to win out are

Baylor 16.9

Clemson 43.1

OSU 34

LSU 6.1

So the combined odds of those 4 all going undefeated is about 0.15%

ND is at 27.7

 

[T Town Tommy]

Absolutely I want Bama.

Bookmarked.

I really wouldn't care who my Tide played in the four team playoff. Getting there is the key... the rest will sort itself out on the field.

 

[Irish YJ]

According to FPI the odds to win out are

Baylor 16.9

Clemson 43.1

OSU 34

LSU 6.1

So the combined odds of those 4 all going undefeated is about 0.15%

ND is at 27.7

.15% is only for those 4 team, only those 4 teams.

 

[johnnycando]

Bookmarked.

I really wouldn't care who my Tide played in the four team playoff. Getting there is the key... the rest will sort itself out on the field.

I think the desire to play Alabama would be to beat the best perennial power year in and year out.

I think everyone would like to play and beat Alabama.

Getting your ass handed to you via Alabama is a completely different thing. To which we've unfortunately experienced. Morale and recruiting setback galore.

It's a double-edged sword of sorts.

 

[BobbyMac]

According to FPI the odds to win out are

Baylor 16.9

Clemson 43.1

OSU 34

LSU 6.1

So the combined odds of those 4 all going undefeated is about 0.15%

ND is at 27.7

Why just those 4 scenarios? What about the other 10 possible outcomes?