'11 NY OLB Ishaq Williams (Signed ND LOI-EE)

[EuropeanDomer22]

He is up to 284 lbs, wow

 

[ulukinatme]

I understand your point, but c'mon. Hindsight is 20/20. You telling me you don't take the 5 star Bryant over the 4 star Clement during their initial recruitment? Even then, ND has to take a swing on some of these guys that aren't sure fire culture fits in order to get that ONE breakthrough stud that can propel you to the next level. Like BK said, we shop down a different aisle. Our aisle just isn't as well stocked as the rest of the country.

With the way 5 stars turn out here, it's better to take the 4 star.

 

[Luckylucci]

At this point I obviously would rather have Ishaq eligible than not. However, I'd also rather have Rochelle at SDE paired with Day than Ishaq. Without having to substitute I like the idea of Isaac sliding inside and Day kicking out. Essentially I like Isaac at the 3 more than Ishaq, though I'd be interested to see how strong that 284 is.

 

[Irish#1]

There's more intensity in my morning bowl of All-Bran than there is in Ishaq.

Post of the day.

 

[connor_in]

6'6" 250 lbs of lollygagging around the field with a 1000 yard stare... I wish the best for him and his future but we're not missing out on anything related to a pass rush.. Sorry.

There's more intensity in my morning bowl of All-Bran than there is in Ishaq.

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[ND NYC]

so he made the 85...but we're just not sure he will actually play at this moment, correct?

 

[Irish#1]

so he made the 85...but we're just not sure he will actually play at this moment, correct?

I think he still needs to be cleared by the NCAA.

 

[Luckylucci]

so he made the 85...but we're just not sure he will actually play at this moment, correct?

Yes, we have space under the 85 man roster to take him if he qualifies by NCAA requirements.

 

[TheChosen1]

KR practiced IW didn't. Read between the lines.

 

[NDdomer2]

KR practiced IW didn't. Read between the lines.

Didn't BK tell the media that was going to be the case yesterday?

 

[Sherm Sticky]

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[Junkhead]

He is up to 284 lbs, wow

I bet his quickness has gone through the roof!

I hope to have him back, maybe the light will finally switch on. That said, I doubt it happens in either case.

 

[Blaise]

KR practiced IW didn't. Read between the lines.

KR qualified to come back... IW has to get a waiver because he didn't complete 18 credit hours, Kelly has said he won't practive til they hear an answer

 

[stlnd01]

KR qualified to come back... IW has to get a waiver because he didn't complete 18 credit hours, Kelly has said he won't practive til they hear an answer

Didn't he also say - or maybe it was someone on here - that they may not hear until a day or two before the Texas game?
Gonna be hard for IW to see the field much if he can't practice all camp. Which is unfortunate because we could really use him.

 

[Irish Insanity]

KR qualified to come back... IW has to get a waiver because he didn't complete 18 credit hours, Kelly has said he won't practive til they hear an answer

Didn't he also say - or maybe it was someone on here - that they may not hear until a day or two before the Texas game?
Gonna be hard for IW to see the field much if he can't practice all camp. Which is unfortunate because we could really use him.

I also read KVR isn't fully cleared yet but his road is paved and all necessary stuff has been filed with the NCAA. They're just awaiting final approval.

 

[Cackalacky]

KR qualified to come back... IW has to get a waiver because he didn't complete 18 credit hours, Kelly has said he won't practive til they hear an answer

How in the world can he get a waiver after not completing six classes?

 

[Irish2155]

I also read KVR isn't fully cleared yet but his road is paved and all necessary stuff has been filed with the NCAA. They're just awaiting final approval.

This has me nervous until he is actually cleared. I know he's taken care of what was needed but the NC2A drags their feet often. And our luck we won't have him officially "cleared" in time for Texas...

BS always seems to happen and I can already see the writing on the wall here.

 

[johnnycando]

This has me nervous until he is actually cleared. I know he's taken care of what was needed but the NC2A drags their feet often. And our luck we won't have him officially "cleared" in time for Texas...

BS always seems to happen and I can already see the writing on the wall here.

Truth.

 

[Fbolt]

Hope is that Ishaq gets his approval. Would be good for him-and the team. I feel with the opportunity, he would dive in fully committed-at a more natural position.

 

[Blaise]

How in the world can he get a waiver after not completing six classes?

His argument is that he couldn't afford to pay for the classes and take them, He got a job and also did some volunteer work.... Once he was allowed back at ND in the summer, he took classes again

 

[Bogtrotter07]

His argument is that he couldn't afford to pay for the classes and take them, He got a job and also did some volunteer work.... Once he was allowed back at ND in the summer, he took classes again

Along with that argument, he had to take classes that ND would accept; he couldn't take them at ND. The argument really makes sense.

 

[connor_in]

His argument is that he couldn't afford to pay for the classes and take them, He got a job and also did some volunteer work.... Once he was allowed back at ND in the summer, he took classes again

Eric Hansen, ND beat writer, has been saying 2 jobs and volunteer work. That plus unable to afford classes in his area. He also talked about KVR and that he did take classes, but originally was going to take them at UW (or WSU sorry I don't remember which was closer), but then decided to get them at local smaller school due to cost.

 

[kmoose]

How in the world can he get a waiver after not completing six classes?

An athlete only needs to be in good academic standing in the term prior to the season in order to be eligible. So he could take summer classes at ND and be eligible for the season. But he might need a waiver to participate in team activities during the Summer term?

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

His argument is that he couldn't afford to pay for the classes and take them, He got a job and also did some volunteer work.... Once he was allowed back at ND in the summer, he took classes again

Wow, an actual defensible position. I really hope IW can rejoin the team, that actually gives me a little more hope.

 

[JSBusch]

We could absolutely use him from a depth perspective. Psychologically having something he loves dangling in front of him should give him the edge he was missing his entire career. It would be huge if he could realize 80% of the potential he showed coming out of high school.

 

[stlnd01]

One thing I never got about the classes he (and KVR for that matter) were supposed to be taking: What coursework could Ishaq Williams really take back home at Kings County Community College or wherever that is supposed to qualify towards his degree at Notre Dame? Dude's a senior, presumably taking high level coursework towards his major at this point. And it's not like he was just going to breeze into the philosophy department at Columbia.

 

[BobbyMac]

One thing I never got about the classes he (and KVR for that matter) were supposed to be taking: What coursework could Ishaq Williams really take back home at Kings County Community College or wherever that is supposed to qualify towards his degree at Notre Dame? Dude's a senior, presumably taking high level coursework towards his major at this point. And it's not like he was just going to breeze into the philosophy department at Columbia.

I made this exact argument in KVR's about even going to UDub, which is a fine university. How does ND take classes from anything other than top tier institutions? I went to Valpo and I wanted to transfer a few education courses from a summer sprint session at Purdue's local extension. The registrar wouldn't except them if they said Purdue - North Central on the transcript, they had to be authentic W. Lafayette courses that were taught on a satellite basis at PNC which meant I had to go to W. Lafayette for testing and field work . Valpo made me do that and ND lets guys go to junior colleges? I still don't think I've ever got the whole story regarding transferring credits to ND.

 

[Legacy93]

I made this exact argument in KVR's about even going to UDub, which is a fine university. How does ND take classes from anything other than top tier institutions? I went to Valpo and I wanted to transfer a few education courses from a summer sprint session at Purdue's local extension. The registrar wouldn't except them if they said Purdue - North Central on the transcript, they had to be authentic W. Lafayette courses that were taught on a satellite basis at PNC which meant I had to go to W. Lafayette for testing and field work . Valpo made me do that and ND lets guys go to junior colleges? I still don't think I've ever got the whole story regarding transferring credits to ND.

My freshman and sophomore year roommate took classes back home over the summer at a community college in el paso after his freshman year and, while difficult, it can be done. He had to jump through hoops, especially since one was a required courses, but found administration was much more lenient (i think) about a class to fulfill a free elective. It also varies by department, but can be done.

I can add more detail regarding what hoops are involved and why its more of a case by case basis than you'd imagine, but I'm avoiding it for time.

 

[BobbyMac]

My freshman and sophomore year roommate took classes back home over the summer at a community college in el paso after his freshman year and, while difficult, it can be done. He had to jump through hoops, especially since one was a required courses, but found administration was much more lenient (i think) about a class to fulfill a free elective. It also varies by department, but can be done.

I can add more detail regarding what hoops are involved and why its more of a case by case basis than you'd imagine, but I'm avoiding it for time.

That's crazy to me. If I was an ND player, I'd stay in South Bend for summers, work out with my teammates and take as many sprint/mini courses as I could get away with at IUSB so my falls would be no more than 15 hours, 12 if I could swing it. Football players have it made with only playing during one semester.

 

[GBdomer]

We need him for depth purposes after losing Hill and Williams even though both were burried on depth chart. Can't teach Ishaq athletic ability and size and maybe playing DE would bring that fire he needs. Seemed he never wanted to play CAT. I hope to see him out there this year just because I've never been so jacked after we landed a commitment and the legend of Diaco started. Only move I've ever approved of Diaco