'13 OH QB Malik Zaire (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[BobbyMac]

Salma Hayek, dammit!!!

Sure, pick on the dyxlesic guy. Bully!

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[dshans]

Sure, pick on the dyxlesic guy. Bully!

As a 98 pound weakling I need to pick my targets carefully.

 

[FearTheBeard]

Damn those formations are sexy i hope we see alot of that this season. Im excited to see what sanford beings to our offense i think it was a big time hire

 

[IrishLion]

Whiskey's been asking for the power spread offense for a long time.

I bet that article made him happy haha

 

[BobbyMac]

Word is MZ's going 227 nowadays.

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[GoldenToTheGrave]

Word is MZ's going 227 nowadays.

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[johnnycando]

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Oh my gosh!

Bwahahaha perfect timing.

Well done.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Word is MZ's going 227 nowadays.

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I re-read the article above while thinking of a 230 lb Zaire and I'm starting to really get excited. This team has a lot of weapons, I wonder if we'll finally see true offensive maturation. We have the RBs, WRs, OL, TEs and QBs.

 

[woolybug25]

I re-read the article above while thinking of a 230 lb Zaire and I'm starting to really get excited. This team has a lot of weapons, I wonder if we'll finally see true offensive maturation. We have the RBs, WRs, OL, TEs and QBs.

I was thinking of this earlier... is there a single position on the offensive side of the ball where that player doesn't have to fight for their role? I mean; Malik is fighting Golson, Folston is fighting Bryant, we are three deep at every wide receiver position, we have multiple former top recruits fighting for the TE position, two deep at every OL slot.

I mean... that's exciting!

 

[Grahambo]

I was thinking of this earlier... is there a single position on the offensive side of the ball where that player doesn't have to fight for their role? I mean; Malik is fighting Golson, Folston is fighting Bryant, we are three deep at every wide receiver position, we have multiple former top recruits fighting for the TE position, two deep at every OL slot.

I mean... that's exciting!

Its exactly what you want.

 

[Irish#1]

I was thinking of this earlier... is there a single position on the offensive side of the ball where that player doesn't have to fight for their role? I mean; Malik is fighting Golson, Folston is fighting Bryant, we are three deep at every wide receiver position, we have multiple former top recruits fighting for the TE position, two deep at every OL slot.

I mean... that's exciting!

Gotta keep feeding the monster every year.

 

[BobbyMac]

A 6-1 227lb MZ is starting to sound a lot like a 6-2, 235lb Dak Prescott... only 2 years younger. It'll be interesting to see weight-wise where he and the staff end up feeling most comfortable. Sounds like they are stacking it on him this off season.

Good news is, he had the room to put on a lot of weight up top. If you look at the pictures of him and GB together, GB's arms are huge compared to MZ's From the belt loops down though, MZ is Earl Campbell Jr.

He's got good genes, his Pop's is still put together, even at his advanced age. (That's in case he's creepin' today)

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[ThePiombino]

I was thinking of this earlier... is there a single position on the offensive side of the ball where that player doesn't have to fight for their role? I mean; Malik is fighting Golson, Folston is fighting Bryant, we are three deep at every wide receiver position, we have multiple former top recruits fighting for the TE position, two deep at every OL slot.

I mean... that's exciting!

If we can ever get the D this deep, look out.

 

[phork]

If we can ever get the D this deep, look out.

Thanks Debbie Downer.

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[ThePiombino]

Thanks Debbie Downer.

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Right. Because that statement isn't 1000% valid.

 

[Irish Insanity]

If you can't get your D deep enough, that's not our problem.

 

[ThePiombino]

If you can't get your D deep enough, that's not our problem.

How did I not see this coming? You've won the day.

 

[Irish2155]

How did I not see this coming? You've won the day.

LOL...that was pretty funny.

 

[HoosierIrish]

Is there a generally consensus on this board of who the starter will be? I personally believe it should be MZ all the way. I love the 230 pd scrambling QB and I even thought he looked a lot more accurate throwing the ball, even though BK was making sure he had easier throws. Does it look like a horse race or is EG 2nd string. I'm just scared because to me it seems Bk has a man crush on EG.

Also, I'm a victim of the whole stereotype of white quarterbacks being pocket passers and African American being Scramblers. I don't feel as bad because the recruiting sites are just as bad sometimes. What is everyone's opinions on scrambling ability of EG,MZ, Kizer and Wimbush? Anyway, I'm going to try and break it down best I can based on my limited knowledge of each of these QB's and would love to be corrected and see other opinions.

Golson (Pocket Passer)- to me he seems like a pocket passer who is able to scramble decently but doesn't want to. I know he broke some record for HS football in NC (Passing yards in a season?), but my high expectations for him were his ability to pass and scramble. Who wants a 5'10 pocket passer?

Zaire (Scrambler)- is big and strong, from not much game film I can't tell just how fast or elusive he is, but he definitely isn't afraid to run. Maybe comparable to Cardale Jones scrambling style? I've read he isn't the most accurate of the QB's, but from what i saw he seemed to have a rocket arm and was on target for almost every throw.

Kizer (Pocket Passer)? - I loved when he committed, I love the big frame and big arm. I don't know where he is now weight wise, but to me he has always seemed lanky. So I have no idea if Kizer is a scrambler or a pocket passer because he seems to have the build of a pocket passer. Kid seemed to have a strong arm and out of high school had praise for his leadership skills, but when I watched him throw he just seemed very inaccurate to me (I hope I'm wrong).

Wimbush (Scrambler) - Anyone can put together an amazing HS football highlight tape and all of these QB's had them, but I love this kid. As much as I love MZ's power style scrambling I feel like Wimbush seems more elusive and fluid. He's no Marcus Mariota so don't condemn me yet, but I hope this is what we have in Wimbush. A great passing QB with great speed and elsuiveness (maybe not 4.52 speed, but still fast).

 

[SoIll]

Is there a generally consensus on this board of who the starter will be? I personally believe it should be MZ all the way. I love the 230 pd scrambling QB and I even thought he looked a lot more accurate throwing the ball, even though BK was making sure he had easier throws. Does it look like a horse race or is EG 2nd string. I'm just scared because to me it seems Bk has a man crush on EG.

Also, I'm a victim of the whole stereotype of white quarterbacks being pocket passers and African American being Scramblers. I don't feel as bad because the recruiting sites are just as bad sometimes. What is everyone's opinions on scrambling ability of EG,MZ, Kizer and Wimbush? Anyway, I'm going to try and break it down best I can based on my limited knowledge of each of these QB's and would love to be corrected and see other opinions.

Golson (Pocket Passer)- to me he seems like a pocket passer who is able to scramble decently but doesn't want to. I know he broke some record for HS football in NC (Passing yards in a season?), but my high expectations for him were his ability to pass and scramble. Who wants a 5'10 pocket passer?

Zaire (Scrambler)- is big and strong, from not much game film I can't tell just how fast or elusive he is, but he definitely isn't afraid to run. Maybe comparable to Cardale Jones scrambling style? I've read he isn't the most accurate of the QB's, but from what i saw he seemed to have a rocket arm and was on target for almost every throw.

Kizer (Pocket Passer)? - I loved when he committed, I love the big frame and big arm. I don't know where he is now weight wise, but to me he has always seemed lanky. So I have no idea if Kizer is a scrambler or a pocket passer because he seems to have the build of a pocket passer. Kid seemed to have a strong arm and out of high school had praise for his leadership skills, but when I watched him throw he just seemed very inaccurate to me (I hope I'm wrong).

Wimbush (Scrambler) - Anyone can put together an amazing HS football highlight tape and all of these QB's had them, but I love this kid. As much as I love MZ's power style scrambling I feel like Wimbush seems more elusive and fluid. He's no Marcus Mariota so don't condemn me yet, but I hope this is what we have in Wimbush. A great passing QB with great speed and elsuiveness (maybe not 4.52 speed, but still fast).

On Golson: He looks to scramble to much, he needs to sit in the pocket and sling it. He doesn't always look at each progression. He is very quick to tuck and try and make something happen.

On Wimbush: He's pass first, not the quickest, but can make plays with his feet.

 

[ulukinatme]

I do hope that Zaire ends up as the starter, but I won't hold my breath. I just like the energy he brings, he seems like a natural leader and could spark this offense. I know we have a limited sample size, but based on the few games last year he played and Spring games, Zaire is easily the best QB we've had under Kelly when it comes to running option. The previous guys have done a poor job reading the end to determine if they need to keep the ball or take off, but Zaire seemed to make the right reads most of the time which lead to good runs. We've got very talented receivers, but our OL and backs are easily just as talented if not more so. History has shown you want a strong run game if you want to make it to the top, we should utilize our run game more.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

I'd love to see a 2 QB system just as they ran in the Bowl Game. Screw the saying that having 2 QB's means you don't have 1. Teams needing to prepare for 2 QB's of their contrasting skill sets would be advantageous. Keeping both sharp and hungry would be helpful as well.

 

[Monk]

I'd love to see a 2 QB system just as they ran in the Bowl Game. Screw the saying that having 2 QB's means you don't have 1. Teams needing to prepare for 2 QB's of their contrasting skill sets would be advantageous. Keeping both sharp and hungry would be helpful as well.

I think this is more of how it will be next year. I wouldn't call 2012 a 2 QB system, but we did use 2 QBs more than most teams and I think everyone agrees it worked out better than just sticking with Golson that year.

 

[Wild Bill]

On Golson: He looks to scramble to much, he needs to sit in the pocket and sling it. He doesn't always look at each progression. He is very quick to tuck and try and make something happen.

I agree he looks to escape the pocket too quick but I think he's doing it to buy time to throw, not necessarily to scramble.

I thought he missed a lot of opportunities last year to take four yards scrambling on 1st & 10 and 2nd & 5 or more.

 

[Henges24]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>If you think you should have my spot. Play me for it.
-KD</p>— Malik Zaire (@LuckyLefty8) <a href="https://twitter.com/LuckyLefty8/status/573497699728760832">March 5, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Exactly why I want MZ>EG

 

[NDdomer2]

but.....is it his spot?

 

[greyhammer90]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>If you think you should have my spot. Play me for it.
-KD</p>— Malik Zaire (@LuckyLefty8) <a href="https://twitter.com/LuckyLefty8/status/573497699728760832">March 5, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Exactly why I want MZ>EG

Because he can quote an NBA player on Twitter?

 

[BobbyMac]

Why can't everyone see THIS guy has it?

Why do they cling to the past? Golson has proven over a 3 year period that he can not be trusted with the keys 100% of the time. Has he been my favorite player ever on occasion? Yes. But the QB position at Notre Dame requires you to play effectively 100% of the time. Not 90% or 80% or in Golson's case, less than 66%.

 

[SoIll]

Why can't everyone see THIS guy has it?

Why do they cling to the past? Golson has proven over a 3 year period that he can not be trusted with the keys 100% of the time. Has he been my favorite player ever on occasion? Yes. But the QB position at Notre Dame requires you to play effectively 100% of the time. Not 90% or 80% or in Golson's case, less than 66%.

Malik started in 1 game. Did he play well? Yes. But the offense and game plan was simplified for him big time. Golson has started for 2 years. 1 as a freshman. (led them to a national championship) and last year after taking an entire year off. There is a reason Golson started over Malik last year. He fits what Kelly wants to do.

 

[Henges24]

Because he can quote an NBA player on Twitter?

Yes. That is exactly why. smh