Why do you tweet recruits?

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In a perfect world, yes. In today's world, no.

If a recruit takes to twitter to announce he's taking a visit to ND and hears crickets, compared to announcing that he's visiting OSU and OSU fans show their excitement and pride, that will leave an impression on him. IMO.

I don't have a problem with fans saying positive things about a recruit or retweeting their tweets, etc. I have a problem with directly engaging a recruit. If a recruit says he's taking a visit, he doesn't have to hear crickets if no one engages them directly. People can retweet, make post about it, etc. All without trying to make conversation directly with the recruit. There is no reason a grown man should directly engage a minor on twitter in efforts to have a conversation with them. Period.

Again; retweeting, tweeting positive comments about a recruit or general positivity in a post meant for the masses is totally fine. Directly engaging a young man is entirely different and not appropriate.
 
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I don't have a problem with fans saying positive things about a recruit or retweeting their tweets, etc. I have a problem with directly engaging a recruit. If a recruit says he's taking a visit, he doesn't have to hear crickets if no one engages them directly. People can retweet, make post about it, etc. All without trying to make conversation directly with the recruit. There is no reason a grown man should directly engage a minor on twitter in efforts to have a conversation with them. Period.

Again; retweeting, tweeting positive comments about a recruit or general positivity in a post meant for the masses is totally fine. Directly engaging a young man is entirely different and not appropriate.

I see what you mean. I agree that going for an actual conversation should not happen 99% of the time. Exception would be a harmless, positive correction. Something like Recruit tweets out 'ND's grad rate of 90% is nice!'. If someone tweets him that it's actually 97% (or whatever it is now) with a link to the proof, those are good.

But favorites, retweets, even 'enjoy your visit', 'ND would love to have you' and 'Go Irish!' tweets, no problem with and I encourage it. Do you agree with that? Or do you straight up draw the line at favorites and retweets?
 
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Are you guys really going through this again lol?
 

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I don't have a problem with fans saying positive things about a recruit or retweeting their tweets, etc. I have a problem with directly engaging a recruit. If a recruit says he's taking a visit, he doesn't have to hear crickets if no one engages them directly. People can retweet, make post about it, etc. All without trying to make conversation directly with the recruit. There is no reason a grown man should directly engage a minor on twitter in efforts to have a conversation with them. Period.

Again; retweeting, tweeting positive comments about a recruit or general positivity in a post meant for the masses is totally fine. Directly engaging a young man is entirely different and not appropriate.

I am with you on this 100%.

With that said, I am continuously perplexed how social media and "norms" have changed in just the past 5 years. The ability to communicate directly with "celebrities" (entertainment stars, athletes, media, etc) in an instant and anonymous fashion has certainly changed how people view this. And it isn't just millennials doing this either. It's somewhat fascinating to watch as a social experiment.
 

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He's been registered for a while, but in the short time that he's become active on IE, he's been a legitimate contributor, asking on-topic questions in appropriate places.

Let's give him a chance, and maybe there can be productive discussions at some point, no?


I just don't get why IE has to be the forum that houses the most universally disliked Notre Dame fan. We don't owe him anything.
 
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I just don't get why IE has to be the forum that houses the most universally disliked Notre Dame fan. We don't owe him anything.

This isn't directed at you, but I personally get tired of people trying to control IE and make it their 'home' in regards to who can post/be here. This is everybody's site and as long as they're not constantly trolling, picking fights, or bullying, IDK why they should be pushed out.

You and others don't like him, but some people welcome him and don't have a problem with him.
 

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I don't have a problem with fans saying positive things about a recruit or retweeting their tweets, etc. I have a problem with directly engaging a recruit. If a recruit says he's taking a visit, he doesn't have to hear crickets if no one engages them directly. People can retweet, make post about it, etc. All without trying to make conversation directly with the recruit. There is no reason a grown man should directly engage a minor on twitter in efforts to have a conversation with them. Period.

Again; retweeting, tweeting positive comments about a recruit or general positivity in a post meant for the masses is totally fine. Directly engaging a young man is entirely different and not appropriate.

This is a bright line rule. If you have not met the guy in person and you are not a paid football coach at Notre Dame, under no circumstances should you be reaching out to these kids. I have no problem if we all publicly shame people who cross that line, even if they are otherwise reasonable posters.
 

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He's been registered for a while, but in the short time that he's become active on IE, he's been a legitimate contributor, asking on-topic questions in appropriate places.

Let's give him a chance, and maybe there can be productive discussions at some point, no?

On Megan's law.
 

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This isn't directed at you, but I personally get tired of people trying to control IE and make it their 'home' in regards to who can post/be here. This is everybody's site and as long as they're not constantly trolling, picking fights, or bullying, IDK why they should be pushed out.

You and others don't like him, but some people welcome him and don't have a problem with him.

This is a "home" for many of us, including you. All of our posts are what make up the collective vibe of the site. Ultimately the mods and owners are the ones that make the decisions, but that doesn't mean that they don't hear our voices.

The world is a small place when you have made yourself a known commodity on the Irish boards like Jmercy. It's not like he is just some random guy that we aren't giving a chance. This is a guy that pretty much no one wants posting on their board. Why are we supposed to just ignore all of his history simply because he hasn't screwed up our site yet?
 

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I just don't get why IE has to be the forum that houses the most universally disliked Notre Dame fan. We don't owe him anything.

We may not owe him anything, but his reputation doesn't excuse attacks on every post he makes.

As long as he's making an effort to be a normal member of our community, I don't see why we can't give him a chance to contribute.

However, if you all find out that he's still trying to directly contact recruits on the regular and isn't gaining anything of value from being here? Then have at it. But until that time, I'd like to see him get a chance to post without a dogpile ensuing.
 
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We may not owe him anything, but his reputation doesn't excuse attacks on every post he makes.

As long as he's making an effort to be a normal member of our community, I don't see why we can't give him a chance to contribute.

However, if you all find out that he's still trying to directly contact recruits on the regular and isn't gaining anything of value from being here? Then have at it. But until that time, I'd like to see him get a chance to post without a dogpile ensuing.

So if Charlie Manson started posting on here, we should give him a chance?

I'm not comparing the two, just trying to understand why exactly the board owes anyone who wants to post here a warm reception, even if we know who there are when they get here.
 

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So if Charlie Manson started posting on here, we should give him a chance?

I'm not comparing the two, just trying to understand why exactly the board owes anyone who wants to post here a warm reception, even if we know who there are when they get here.

You don't owe him a warm reception, but if you have that big of an issue with it, simply don't interact with him. No one is telling you that you must respond to his posts or feel super excited that he's here.

His posting isn't a distraction at all, compared to the abuse he takes when he does post.

I'd rather give the guy a shot than run him out of town, especially if he's worked on correcting his social media transgressions.
 

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is this anyone on here???? she f#cking irritates me..
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constant of these kinds of posts
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>can't wait 'til we get our own Boykin <a href="https://twitter.com/MBoykin814">@MBoykin814</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NextSeason?src=hash">#NextSeason</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoIrish?src=hash">#GoIrish</a></p>— barbara narmont (@zenbull1) <a href="https://twitter.com/zenbull1/status/550387053008289795">December 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I've noticed her before. No one worse than that Paul guy though.

+ a few others I cannot remember ATM
 

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Retweeting a lot of Pro ND stuff

yeah, he sure is.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/Micah_parsons23">@Micah_parsons23</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/markese_stepp">@markese_stepp</a> ND needs this guy!!</p>— Justin Grubl (@j_mercy1) <a href="https://twitter.com/j_mercy1/status/830868130444492801">February 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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yeah, he sure is.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/Micah_parsons23">@Micah_parsons23</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/markese_stepp">@markese_stepp</a> ND needs this guy!!</p>— Justin Grubl (@j_mercy1) <a href="https://twitter.com/j_mercy1/status/830868130444492801">February 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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lolololololol Mercy I love you. See what I did there?
 

Kaneyoufeelit

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yeah, he sure is.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/Micah_parsons23">@Micah_parsons23</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/markese_stepp">@markese_stepp</a> ND needs this guy!!</p>— Justin Grubl (@j_mercy1) <a href="https://twitter.com/j_mercy1/status/830868130444492801">February 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Blazers46

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yeah, he sure is.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/Micah_parsons23">@Micah_parsons23</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/markese_stepp">@markese_stepp</a> ND needs this guy!!</p>— Justin Grubl (@j_mercy1) <a href="https://twitter.com/j_mercy1/status/830868130444492801">February 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Bang Bang Notre Dame Gang Grubl?
 

anarin

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yeah, he sure is.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/Micah_parsons23">@Micah_parsons23</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/markese_stepp">@markese_stepp</a> ND needs this guy!!</p>— Justin Grubl (@j_mercy1) <a href="https://twitter.com/j_mercy1/status/830868130444492801">February 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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God this made me cringe. Smh...
 

IrishLion

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Funny how you bash certain people for tweeting at a recruit yet check out PaNDFAN twitter and he has tweeting at guys a lot.

DON'T TWEET AT RECRUITS.

THAT COMES DIRECTLY FROM ND THEMSELVES.

IF YOU WON'T LISTEN TO THE POWERS AT THE SCHOOL YOU'RE ROOTING FOR, THEN WHAT THE F*CK IS THE POINT?

STOP TWEETING KIDS.
 
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