NCAA Playoff Committee Rankings 2014 (Unranked)

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SOS: Strength of schedule played, from perspective of an average FBS team.
SOR: Strength of record - Reflects chance that an average Top 25 team would have team's record or better, given the schedule.
GC: Game control - Reflects chance that an average Top 25 team would control games from start to end the way this team did, given the schedule.
FPI: Football Power Index that measures team's true strength on net points scale; expected point margin vs average opponent on neutral field. *FPI is updated daily in the current week.

These are the 4 points that the committee bases their 'opinion' on? #3 Game control is the 1 point that makes me wonder. Ty W should know this best.
 

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I know its early, but I don't think people really understand how hard it will be for us to jump one of these teams (like a TCU or Michgan State) if they keep winning. I know this committee says that they will re-evaluate after every week, but they're human. Just like the people who vote on AP or Coaches Poll. Remember in 2012, when we were 10-0 and ranked behind K-State? Despite having a better resume? I don't see them bumping ND above MSU/TCU if they keep winning.

Yes, we still get to play #14 Arizona State and #25 Louisville. Well, Michigan State still has #16 Ohio State and #15 Nebraska. TCU still has #20 WVU and #9 Kansas State.

The people who are saying that we're automatically in at 11-1 or that this poll doesn't matter yet should probably consider that fact that outside the SEC, there are 4 teams (FSU, Oregon, TCU, Michigan State) who are ahead of us and will be favored in every game the rest of the season.

The only solace to take from this is that they aren't putting too much of an emphasis on head-to-head, and we could actually jump a 1-loss FSU due to their weak schedule.

Exactly.
 

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Can't believe i'm not going to sleep tonight because of these rankings. Let's review in 4 weeks when we barely beat Navy because we're so respectful of their traditions, lose to ASU(UNC blueprint repeated), barely beat Northwestern b/c they play out of their minds and beat Louisville on a last second field goal.

HUH? Ya, sleep is probably appropriate
 

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Here ya go, Aaron

Here ya go, Aaron

The complete College Football Playoff top 25 rankings (as of Oct. 28):

1. Mississippi State (7-0)
2. Florida State (7-0)
3. Auburn (6-1)
4. Ole Miss (7-1)
5. Oregon (7-1)
6. Alabama (7-1)
7. TCU (6-1)
8. Michigan State (7-1)
9. Kansas State (6-1)
10. Notre Dame (6-1)
11. Georgia (6-1)
12. Arizona (6-1)
13. Baylor (6-1)
14. Arizona State (6-1)
15. Nebraska (7-1)
16. Ohio State (6-1)
17. Utah (6-1)
18. Oklahoma (5-2)
19. LSU (7-2)
20. West Virginia (6-2)
21. Clemson (6-2)
22. UCLA (6-2)
23. East Carolina (6-1)
24. Duke (6-1)
25. Louisville (6-2)
 

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Some of you are being wildly irrational. Look at what we have done so far. We beat Rice, a historically bad Michigan team, beat Purdue, Syracuse, and North Carolina unimpressively and lost to FSU.

We can argue about where we belong in the 8-10 range but it's difficult to argue with the stance the committee appears to have taken that you need to beat quality teams to earn your spot.

Also everyone needs to grow up about this SEC bias garbage. That is flat out the best conference and the best football in the country until proven otherwise. People can complain about what rules they might bend to get there or how questionably ethical their behavior may be, but on the football field they have proven themselves repeatedly superior. I hope as much as anyone else that other teams get a shot to unseat them but a team doesn't deserve a spot in the playoff "just because I don't want to see 3 SEC teams play."

I personally disagree with some of the placements in the rankings right now but its not worth the struggle right now with so much football to be played. I'm just excited to watch it all play out. Remember 5 years ago when we were fighting to get bowl eligible? Pretty nice to be having these debates instead...
 

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I don't have faith in ND jumping up 6 spots. Even two loss teams will stay ahead of them based on "impressive wins," at least according to how the committee has addressed this first set of rankings.

Who knows, though. Maybe they're waiting on the ASU game like the rest of us.
 

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MSU beat a currently ranked top-25 in number 15 Nebraska.

Not disagreeing with you, but I just want to point out that Nebraska has zero impressive wins - unless you count Northwestern or maybe McNesse State. So even though they are a mythical #15, we have no way of knowing if beating Nebraska really counts as quality. Whereas, we'll learn more about Stanford this weekend. I personally don't think they are as bad as their 3 loses proclaim; granted their offense is not as strong as in past years.

I refuse to get worked up by this at this time; even though I think it is ridiculous.
 

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MSU beat the currently ranked #15 Nebraska team. Why do I have to keep typing that. We haven't beaten anyone in the current top-25.

So did Georgia and they're behind us. They're looking at losses too. They must have been impressed with the 17 point loss to the ducks.

Do you think think the committee will re-think this if Stanford gets into the top 25 this week by beating oregon and nebraska, who hasn't had one impressive win this year, loses to wiscy? I wouldn't hold my breath.
 

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Well, I'm Pollyanna still.

A). I can see MSU losing another game. That would put no B1G team ahead of us.

B). I can see the Big 12 cannibalizing, and everyone there having at least two losses.

C). I can see Oregon losing another game. That would put all PAC-12 teams behind us.

D). I can see only one SEC team ending up with one loss [and none undefeated].

E). This would leave only top ranked FSU plus us and a few others. Our only loss would be to them.

I do not see any of the above as extremely unlikely.
 

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Nebraska really is not that good. Really!

I don't think so either but they have to give weight as it stands. This is an evolving scale. If Stanford had some balls and kept winning, then we'd be ranked higher for having a **current** top 25 win.

I read it the first time. You really think that Nebraska is the 15th best team in the country? They almost lost to McNeese St. In addition, MSU got raped by Oregon. That doesn't matter?

We can only play who is on our schedule.

I don't think they are the 15th best team in the country but as it stands, that is where they are ranked. Let's give it a couple weeks and see where we are. If we handle business against ASU then we will have our top 25 win.

All of the other teams are 7-1 except TCU, Auburn and KSU but guess what: KSU beat Oklahoma, who is in the top-25 and lost to Auburn, who is in the top 4. TCU lost to Baylor but beat Oklahoma and they are putting up more PPG than anybody. They both have their top-25 wins and their top 25 losses.

Auburn beat two top 25 teams and has one top 25 loss. So they get the nod.

Wins carry weight and top-25 wins carry more. Losses are a tertiary weighted component.

We've only lost to a top 4.

The logic is there. If our opponents won more, then we'd be okay. Normally Stanford is a top-25 team, not this year. Normally the wolverines are at least a top 50, not this year (or hopefully for a decade).

We have to see what happens as these top teams lose and continue losing. Oklahoma may lose one more at least, many of these team's wins will be devalued as we continue. We just have take it for what it is.

My eyes haven't deceived me, we have a better team than some of the teams ahead of us but it takes a season to prove that. We are still dealing with arbitrarily high ranked teams.

All we can do is win.
 

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Agree. The only team thus far that the Irish have played without three or more losses is FSU. Yes, it was a loss that could be debated, but if body of work, SOS, and head to head seems to be the criteria, then the Irish come up short right now. They can thank Michigan, NC, and Stanford for being pretty dismal teams. Still, if the Irish win out, they have as good a shot as anyone to make the final four teams.

Refs keep flag on their pockets at the end og fsu we are sitting at 2. Much bigger call than i thought. Where is the liquor?
 

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we need to come out and wax the rest of these bummy teams we play to make an impression.
 

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Some of you are being wildly irrational. Look at what we have done so far. We beat Rice, a historically bad Michigan team, beat Purdue, Syracuse, and North Carolina unimpressively and lost to FSU.

We can argue about where we belong in the 8-10 range but it's difficult to argue with the stance the committee appears to have taken that you need to beat quality teams to earn your spot.

Also everyone needs to grow up about this SEC bias garbage. That is flat out the best conference and the best football in the country until proven otherwise. People can complain about what rules they might bend to get there or how questionably ethical their behavior may be, but on the football field they have proven themselves repeatedly superior. I hope as much as anyone else that other teams get a shot to unseat them but a team doesn't deserve a spot in the playoff "just because I don't want to see 3 SEC teams play."

I personally disagree with some of the placements in the rankings right now but its not worth the struggle right now with so much football to be played. I'm just excited to watch it all play out. Remember 5 years ago when we were fighting to get bowl eligible? Pretty nice to be having these debates instead...

You had me until the bolded... MGoTroll
 

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Some of you are being wildly irrational. Look at what we have done so far. We beat Rice, a historically bad Michigan team, beat Purdue, Syracuse, and North Carolina unimpressively and lost to FSU.

We can argue about where we belong in the 8-10 range but it's difficult to argue with the stance the committee appears to have taken that you need to beat quality teams to earn your spot.

Also everyone needs to grow up about this SEC bias garbage. That is flat out the best conference and the best football in the country until proven otherwise. People can complain about what rules they might bend to get there or how questionably ethical their behavior may be, but on the football field they have proven themselves repeatedly superior. I hope as much as anyone else that other teams get a shot to unseat them but a team doesn't deserve a spot in the playoff "just because I don't want to see 3 SEC teams play."

I personally disagree with some of the placements in the rankings right now but its not worth the struggle right now with so much football to be played. I'm just excited to watch it all play out. Remember 5 years ago when we were fighting to get bowl eligible? Pretty nice to be having these debates instead...


Not sure why somebody neg repped you, but that's ok man because I would rep this post 100x if I could. I don't agree with everything you said about the SEC though fuck them
 

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What concerns me most is that Ole Miss is at 4. That shows me it doesn't matter if you lose. They lost to LSU LAST WEEK and they are still in the top 4. That makes me believe that even if 4 beats 3, then 3 will only fall to #7 or so. So when the SECW plays each other, the loser won't drop far because it will be a good loss. Nauseating and worrisome.
 

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Thank you so much for the Disrespect Card you sent me. It's perfect. I'll cherish it.

Sincerely,
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Well, I'm Pollyanna still.

A). I can see MSU losing another game. That would put no B1G team ahead of us.

B). I can see the Big 12 cannibalizing, and everyone there having at least two losses.

C). I can see Oregon losing another game. That would put all PAC-12 teams behind us.

D). I can see only one SEC team ending up with one loss [and none undefeated].

E). This would leave only top ranked FSU plus us and a few others. Our only loss would be to them.

I do not see any of the above as extremely unlikely.

I think you're right but this initial ranking gives us zero breathing room and leaves us susceptible to a a two loss SEC team getting in over us. Basically, stars must align to get in and I don't think that's what this team has earned thus far.
 
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I now think we want Louisville to beat FSU. Yes, we lost an asterisk game to FSU, but if Louisville beats them, FSU drops and Louisville jumps to ~15, giving us another big game.

And when they say FSU beat ND, we can point to the fact that the almost didn't, and we turned around and beat the only team that beat FSU. I think we end ahead of FSU in this scenario, no doubt.
 

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What concerns me most is that Ole Miss is at 4. That shows me it doesn't matter if you lose. They lost to LSU LAST WEEK and they are still in the top 4. That makes me believe that even if 4 beats 3, then 3 will only fall to #7 or so. So when the SECW plays each other, the loser won't drop far because it will be a good loss. Nauseating and worrisome.

They beat Bama. That's a better win then Oregon, TCU,MSU, ND and every 1 loss team has.
 

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NCAA Playoff Committee Rankings 2014 (ND #10)

NCAA Playoff Committee Rankings 2014 (ND #10)

We are HUGE Stanford fans this week for a couple of reasons; because we need them to continue as a quality win for us, and because I think Oregon wins the rest of the way out and locks up a playoff spot with a win this week. Stanford is their toughest test/nightmare matchup.

I honestly think FSU and Oregon lock up playoff spots with wins this week. They won't get beat the rest of the way. Only leaving two spots left...
 
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Something rotten in Denmark fella's

Remember if there are a few members of this committee that have us where the national polls do at 6 or 7 then there are other members that have us at 13 & 14 to bring us down to 10.

Coaches rank us at #7

Writers rank us at #6

The OLD BCS aggregate polls would likely rank us at #8

This freakin committee has ranked us where Steve Spurrier would

The committee has shown its hand and its ugly for ND---we will not get in no matter how we get to 11-1 there will be enough members in this particular group to keep us out even if they need a two loss team to do it.

Not a good situation.
 

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We have a better resume than MSU period. On one side, they made it clear that who you beat matters. But when it came to MSU, they didn't call it that way.

I have no idea why a panel full of people with no clear protocol and no prerequisites is allowed to be the final word on this. Christ... sitting AD's are on the freaking committee making judgement calls about the teams that decide their own career fate. No one thought this was a bad idea? Really?

I hope you know I was being an ass. No matter what ranking we are currently, MSU deserves to be below us. Others too. They are just the most obvious.



Agree. The only team thus far that the Irish have played without three or more losses is FSU. Yes, it was a loss that could be debated, but if body of work, SOS, and head to head seems to be the criteria, then the Irish come up short right now. They can thank Michigan, NC, and Stanford for being pretty dismal teams. Still, if the Irish win out, they have as good a shot as anyone to make the final four teams.

Nothing about your post, but your team. They got fucked too. They are better than the #6 next to their name.
 
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I think you're right but this initial ranking gives us zero breathing room and leaves us susceptible to a a two loss SEC team getting in over us. Basically, stars must align to get in and I don't think that's what this team has earned thus far.

I have said this several times. We have no margin of error. We dont play 13 games either. We have to win.
 

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TCU is losing this weekend. Kansas State is going to finish the year 8-4. Oregon has Stanford, Utah, and the Pac 12 championship (potentially). And the SEC will basically kill itself, there is no way more than 2 SEC teams make the playoff.

We have the easiest road out of all the 1 loss teams. If we beat ASU and Stanford beats Oregon, things are going to look a lot different.
 

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We are HUGE Stanford fans this week for a couple of reasons; because we need them to continue as a quality win for us, and because I think Oregon wins the rest of the way out and locks up a playoff spot with a win this week. Stanford is their toughest test/nightmare matchup.

and buckeye fans next week. I'm going to costco to stock up on booze.
 

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HUH? Ya, sleep is probably appropriate

Come off the ledge chief. Let's revisit in four weeks. By that time i'll need sleep because most likely the twin boys will be born and i'll be up all night with newborns. College football is fkn nuts, and the season for everyone is far from over.
 
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