'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>5) His biggest surprise so far? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> QB Everett Golson. Night/day improvements from two years ago. "He can start in our league"</p>— Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/516669124416901120">September 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>5) His biggest surprise so far? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> QB Everett Golson. Night/day improvements from two years ago. "He can start in our league"</p>— Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/516669124416901120">September 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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"...right after one more year of development" Eh? Eh?
 

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I think the biggest thing is the ball placement. He has been on point this year sans his first int. Even the second one was where it should have been outside that he shouldnt have thrown it.
 

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That's a perfect way to describe Fowler. I think he does a fantastic job on Gameday but Brad Nessler should be doing the ABC game.

"and (pick a ball carrier) is hammered for a gain of X"

Seemed like every tackle was sold as a big hit that we should be surprised the ball carrier got up. Most were average tackles that didn't seem like anything to get excited about.
 

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OMM (as usual) states it pretty well above. EG needs another year, I don't see the mental air of confidence developing by year end to think he is NFL ready. He will, right or wrong, be compared to Russell Wilson and EG is nowhere near the cool operator Wilson was his last two years on a campus. Wilson also didn't have the talent and support structure of EG so he did not get hyped like he should have (NCST is mediocre at best and Wisconsin is a running team).
 

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He does a good job with ALL games. Herbstreit is logical, fair, and informed. He is, without question, the best analyst ESPN has going for it.

Well, he did pick scUM to be 10-1 heading into the pOSU game...
 

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I wouldn't say that. I know a lot of people on here predicted 4 losses with that easy schedule.

Yeah and now people are saying they might only win one more game. There's a big difference between 8-4 and 3-9 IMO. One shows a program in mediocrity and the other shows a crater.
 

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Given their schedule that wasn't crazy. No one saw this dumpster fire coming.

To be honest, I thought it was crazy. I expected Desmond to go homer when he predicted scUM to win 11 games (maybe he said 10), but when I heard Kirk calling for them to win 10, I started asking myself, "what in the Hell do these 'professional' analysts see in this team?"

My only guess was over-confidence in Nussmeier and Gardner.

And I didn't think it would be this bad, but the writing was on the wall that this team was continually regressing, even with Gardner at the helm. They've gotten worse every season under Hoke, and there was (almost) no reason to believe it would get any better. I thought a 10-win prediction was a bit over-the-top for a guy like Mr. Kirk from Herbstreit, considering how in-tune he usually is with things. Not saying he should've predicted a complete dumpster fire, but I was thinking 8 wins was close to an appropriate mark for predictions.
 

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Yahoo!'s Pat Forde just published an article titled "How Everett Golson benefited from expulsion, season away from field":

The Cincinnati Bearcats didn’t play the first two weeks of this football season, which gave coach Tommy Tuberville the chance to play couch potato.

Remote in hand, he traversed across the college football landscape for hours watching games. The player who stood out most to him?

Notre Dame quarterback Everett Golson.

“Gosh almighty, he’s good, now,” Tuberville said. “He’s real good. I think he’s made the most improvement. He’s got the team on his back.”

The first time Tuberville (or anyone) laid eyes on Golson in a game since the 2012 season was during Notre Dame's season opener against Rice. It was his initial game back since being booted out of school and missing the 2013 season for cheating on a test.

The night after Golson tore up Rice for 336 yards of total offense and five total touchdowns, he and a large group gathered at TGI Friday’s in South Bend for a celebratory dinner. (In South Bend, that’s about as high-end as the restaurants get.) Golson’s roommates, defensive tackle Sheldon Day and offensive tackle Ronnie Stanley, were there, along with their families. And so were some people who formed something of a lifeline for Golson in his semester away from Notre Dame.

There was Mickey Wilson, Golson’s coach at Myrtle Beach (S.C.) High School and his wife. And there was Ivan Simmons, Golson’s cousin from Chicago, and his wife. They had been with him through the dark times, and they were thrilled to share his return to the joyous side of life as a football celebrity.

“We had a great time,” said Wilson, after he watched his first game in Notre Dame Stadium that day. “We had a bunch of people up from Myrtle Beach, and we had a lot of laughs.”

Said Simmons: “To climb out of the adversity he faced, it felt good to see that smile back on his face.”

There was a lot to celebrate. Golson had left Notre Dame as a boy and come back as a man. He also had left as a pretty good quarterback and come back as a really good quarterback.

"He's grown exponentially as a person in terms of his maturity, his leadership, his ability to communicate on a day-to-day basis, take responsibility," Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly said. "I could go on and on. He's a man. Again, he had to go through some tough times to get to that point.

"As a football player, he's evolving. He's getting better. He can make plays, as you can see, out on the field. But he's got a ways to go, too. He'll tell you that. I love the fact he's a pretty good player right now and he's only going to get better."

Kelly is grading on a hard scale, but Golson’s current passer rating of 164.6 is the best by a full-time starter in Notre Dame's exalted history. His 311.5 yards per game of total offense are the most for an Irish player since Brady Quinn's 334 yards per game in 2005. He did throw two interceptions in Notre Dame's 31-15 win over Syracuse on Saturday – first picks thrown since Jan. 7, 2013 – but he also had a career-high 362 yards and four touchdowns. And he completed 25 consecutive passes from the second to the fourth quarter, obliterating the previous Irish best of 14 and coming within one of the FBS record.

The upgrade in Golson’s play since 2012 is directly related to his lack of time spent moping or in denial about what happened to get him kicked out of Notre Dame.

"He was disappointed, embarrassed," Wilson said. "But once he got through that, he realized he wanted to stay at Notre Dame, see it through, fix what he had done."

Golson owned up to his mistakes and, at Wilson’s suggestion, made a public statement accepting responsibility. In the statement he declared that he would return to Notre Dame. Then he went about the business of improving himself.

For about a month after he left Notre Dame, Golson stayed with Simmons in Chicago. The cousins had a lot of long talks, but they kept coming back to the same general theme: It’s not the mistake that would define Everett, it would be his response to the mistake.

“He started getting up at 7 a.m.,” Simmons said. “He was going to the gym, hitting the weights, running hills. He realized it’s not high school anymore. He still had that high school mentality a little bit, and he had to become a more mature young man.”

When Golson wasn’t at the gym, he was staring at his iPad, dissecting all his games from 2012. From Chicago, he went to California to work with renowned quarterback guru George Whitfield.

Arm strength and athletic ability have never been issues. Wilson, who started Golson at quarterback when he was a freshman at Myrtle Beach High, knew he had a special talent in those areas right away.

“At some point in time during the week or practice or during a game, there was always a moment when he’d make a throw and you’d just kind of shake your head,” Wilson recalled. “He’d have one or two throws a week that only one or two people in the country could make.”

Those attributes and a winner’s mentality helped him somewhat surprisingly grab the Notre Dame starting job as a redshirt freshman, and his progression as a reader of defenses was evident as that special 2012 season unfolded. But Kelly was never going to throw that team on Golson’s shoulders – the defense was too strong, and the quarterback was still too raw.

So Whitfield still had some work to do with Golson to make him more of a finished product. Footwork, release, using his 6-foot-1 frame to its fullest to avoid being dwarfed in the pocket – those were all points of emphasis. But so was coaxing the leadership skills out of a quiet and reserved guy.

“Working with George transformed him,” Simmons said.

Kelly took note. At Notre Dame’s media day he said Golson is punctual for every meeting and function now, leading by example. And he’s starting to find his leadership voice as well.

During the Irish’s inconsistent victory over Purdue on Sept. 13, Golson at one point brought the offense together to “make sure everybody had a sound mind, make sure everybody wasn’t dropping off the bandwagon.” It wasn’t quite the Gettysburg address, but it came at an important time in the game and the team responded.

“It turned the game around,” receiver Corey Robinson said. “We were down and he pulled us together and said, 'Look, guys, we need to pull together, not for anyone else, for us as a team.' “

Everett Golson has pulled Notre Dame together this year, after pulling himself up off the floor. He’s both a better quarterback and a better man because of it.
 

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Yahoo!'s Pat Forde just published an article titled "How Everett Golson benefited from expulsion, season away from field":

I'm a big Golson fan because I think he handled this in the best way possible and it would've been so easy to transfer out and go play for South Carolina. However, I do think some of these stories miss the point. I don't really think him breaking down film or working out shows that he's changed into a man. I would love to hear about whether he's changed his study habits or is being as punctual to class as he is in team meetings.

I'm not saying he's not doing any of those, but nobody's writing about it. He didn't get kicked out of Notre Dame because he wasn't a good enough football player. He got kicked out because he cheated academically.
 

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I'm a big Golson fan because I think he handled this in the best way possible and it would've been so easy to transfer out and go play for South Carolina. However, I do think some of these stories miss the point. I don't really think him breaking down film or working out shows that he's changed into a man. I would love to hear about whether he's changed his study habits or is being as punctual to class as he is in team meetings.

I'm not saying he's not doing any of those, but nobody's writing about it. He didn't get kicked out of Notre Dame because he wasn't a good enough football player. He got kicked out because he cheated academically.

THIS is what I have been thinking as well. I love that he did some things to get ready to come back to school and play football. But I really want to hear the other side of this story just to see how much he has matured. I would love to point out this guy to my kids and show him as an example of overcoming bad choices, dealing with the consequences, and not taking the easy way out.
 

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THIS is what I have been thinking as well. I love that he did some things to get ready to come back to school and play football. But I really want to hear the other side of this story just to see how much he has matured. I would love to point out this guy to my kids and show him as an example of overcoming bad choices, dealing with the consequences, and not taking the easy way out.

Well he's certainly matured on the field, even if not at the point where his potential is maximized. Off the field is hard to say, again it's not as compelling enough headline for college football fans. Even Zaire looks like he's put more effort into learning the position (at least in the spring games), with Golson just edging himself out with experience and athleticism. Him going from his current 85% potential to 100% is the difference between this ND team going from a 10 win team to a playoff berth.
 
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I think someone will come out with the "story" we all want to hear once he gets his degree. At least I would hope so. Something about where he started at ND, what happened, and how he overcame all of that and earned his degree. (Tag in a nice 3.2 GPA or something if that's what he finishes with.) All while looking at a 1st round draft grade...

Obviously some things would have to happen to make that an incredible story but he has plenty of time to complete this chapter in his life on a very high note, off the field. Right now the draw for fans is the "here and now" stuff. February of 2016 we may be talking a whole 'nother thing!
 

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Everett deserves some privacy. AND it's good for him in almost every conceivable way. He needs the least amount of distraction that he can have, and the least amount of hype that he can have. Everett is probably the best athlete [all-around] playing college quarterback. THAT plus Kelly's genius is why Tuberville dropped his jaw. But Everett needs to calmly, undistractedly, with no outsized expectation worrying him about failure, take all the snaps he can get to really become one with the whole game. The physical tools are outstandingly there. The relaxed mind is not quite yet. Everything all of us do needs to focus on an Everett who needs no prying nor hype nor unreasonable expectations from us, and just letting him grow into a superior Quarterback mentally. Then we can begin our standing applause.
 

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I know this is off topic and a little misleading because of the strength of teams we have played so far but Everett is pace for 3400 yards passing, 33 Passing TDs, 6 INTs, 300 yards rushing and 12 rushing TDs.

He would be right no par or better than Manziel and Winston.
 

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I know this is off topic and a little misleading because of the strength of teams we have played so far but Everett is pace for 3400 yards passing, 33 Passing TDs, 6 INTs, 300 yards rushing and 12 rushing TDs.

He would be right no par or better than Manziel and Winston.

69.6% completion percentage also!

Gotta sneak by Stanford first, but I can't wait to see what he does against UNC's defense.
 

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I know this is off topic and a little misleading because of the strength of teams we have played so far but Everett is pace for 3400 yards passing, 33 Passing TDs, 6 INTs, 300 yards rushing and 12 rushing TDs.

He would be right no par or better than Manziel and Winston.

I still can't believe Manziel won it over Manti. You shouldn't get to have a 0 TD 2int game and still be in the discussion because you play two FCS opponents.
 

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He would be right no par or better than Manziel and Winston.

Manziel was MUCH more of a dual threat than Golson. Manziel actually RUSHED for 1400 yards, in 2012, and 759 yards in 2013. Winston is probably a fair comparison, though.
 

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Kmoose:

I was talking about overall scores relatively speaking. Manziel had 47 and Everett is on pace for 45. I don't really care how he scores as much as how many times he actually does! Haha

I get what you are saying though. In fact that difference in my mind should make him more of a candidate for the trophy and more of an NFL style QB than Manziel imo. Many times he could break the long run but decides to break the pocket and throw strikes down field.

250 yards, 3(2 passing, 1 rushing) tds, 1 INT for Golson this week. We win the game 28-24 because of late big play on special teams. Im pumped for this game!
 

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So the local radio guys(Columbia, SC) were just discussing the Heisman race. They both stated that they believe EG will elevate to the top of the list after ND upsets FSU in Tallahassee.

First time in my 2.5 years here that I have agreed with these SEC hacks.
 

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So the local radio guys(Columbia, SC) were just discussing the Heisman race. They both stated that they believe EG will elevate to the top of the list after ND upsets FSU in Tallahassee.

First time in my 2.5 years here that I have agreed with these SEC hacks.

A little home cooking for EG. I certainly hope they're right.
 

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After this 2014 season, golson still has 2 years of eligibility correct?
 

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Golson has 13 TD passes in 5 games. He had 12 for the entire 2012 season.

His 33 yd run is a career best.

He's 15-1, Winningest Percentage QB Stater in ND History.
 
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