'10 IL QB Tommy Rees (Notre Dame Man)

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Id rather have a coach who could teach but isn't fiery than someone who is fiery but cannot teach ... It's much easier to spot assistants who are fiery for a "tame" coach than it is to spot assistants who are good teachers when you in fact are not a good teacher.
 

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I'm listening. I understand some folks like to think Reesus was instrumental in 2012 both on and off the field. I don't agree.

I do agree that Tommy gave it his all, gracefully accepted his demotion, avoided creating conflict, and overall was a good teammate. That's nice.

I also do understand that Brian Kelly has made obligatory compliments about the future of Reesus as a coach. I don't see it and I never did. I've seen QBs and other players on the sideline who exhibit traits I see as consistent with future head coaches. Being a vocal and motivational leader is a much better indicator in my book than whether you can read a defense or learn a playbook. Tommy simply doesn't carry himself in a way I could ever see boys above the age of about 14 looking up to and taking direction from.

So in conclusion, I don't ever want to see him coaching Notre Dame. I can't understand after all the pain and frustration of the last 4 years why anyone would want to be reminded of his tenure.

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Let's continue to disparage Tommy Rees from now until the end of time. Great job.

A sizable chunk of the Notre Dame fan base seems determined to do just that. Maybe b/c they grew so accustomed to it the last four years? Maybe as punishment for his not being a modern-day Joe Montana? I don't know
 

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We all know what Tommy's limitations are. But he gave it his all with good intentions. If anyone is frustrated with Tommy maybe you should take it up with the coaching staff. It was their decision to play him over other QB's.
 
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Let's continue to disparage Tommy Rees from now until the end of time. Great job.

Sixteen words. Every one of them is lined up, locked down and dead on. A post to be proud of, and I will second it.

Why disparage someone who gave their best?
 

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I'm listening. I understand some folks like to think Reesus was instrumental in 2012 both on and off the field. I don't agree.

I do agree that Tommy gave it his all, gracefully accepted his demotion, avoided creating conflict, and overall was a good teammate. That's nice.

I also do understand that Brian Kelly has made obligatory compliments about the future of Reesus as a coach. I don't see it and I never did. I've seen QBs and other players on the sideline who exhibit traits I see as consistent with future head coaches. Being a vocal and motivational leader is a much better indicator in my book than whether you can read a defense or learn a playbook. Tommy simply doesn't carry himself in a way I could ever see boys above the age of about 14 looking up to and taking direction from.

So in conclusion, I don't ever want to see him coaching Notre Dame. I can't understand after all the pain and frustration of the last 4 years why anyone would want to be reminded of his tenure.

This post is the closest I've been to giving a neg rep. Because I don't quite understand protocol and I don't want to seem too vindictive, I wanted to call this out publicly.

This is a load of shit. I hate this post so much, I wish I could chew it up, shit it out and make you wallow in it. That's how much I hate this post.

If Kelly wanted Tommy back, I'd welcome him with open arms. He won't be behind center, he'll be behind a clipboard, helping coach and teach and develop our players.
 
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This post is the closest I've been to giving a neg rep. Because I don't quite understand protocol and I don't want to seem too vindictive, I wanted to call this out publicly.

This is a load of shit. I hate this post so much, I wish I could chew it up, shit it out and make you wallow in it. That's how much I hate this post.

If Kelly wanted Tommy back, I'd welcome him with open arms. He won't be behind center, he'll be behind a clipboard, helping coach and teach and develop our players.

I really respect your way of handling this. Explaining your feelings instead of blindly lashing out! Motivations and logic are great, too! What a breath of fresh air! Reps sir!
 

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This post is the closest I've been to giving a neg rep. Because I don't quite understand protocol and I don't want to seem too vindictive, I wanted to call this out publicly.

This is a load of shit. I hate this post so much, I wish I could chew it up, shit it out and make you wallow in it. That's how much I hate this post.

If Kelly wanted Tommy back, I'd welcome him with open arms. He won't be behind center, he'll be behind a clipboard, helping coach and teach and develop our players.

I have no problem neg repping that post, and did.

JTLA, go back and watch press conferences/interviews with Kelly/players where they talk about Rees. All of them say he is a leader, respected and liked by everyone. Kelly constantly talked about how well he understood the offense and how to attack defenses. That is exactly what you want in a coach. Someone that understands and can communicate those thoughts.
 
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I have no problem neg repping that post, and did.

JTLA, go back and watch press conferences/interviews with Kelly/players where they talk about Rees. All of them say he is a leader, respected and liked by everyone. Kelly constantly talked about how well he understood the offense and how to attack defenses. That is exactly what you want in a coach. Someone that understands and can communicate those thoughts.

And it is not just Tommy. His whole family is pretty outstanding. There is a poster here that is a good friend of his older brother, and so he has shared a few inside stories. Tommy's dad interviewed for the Director of Football Operations position, was offered, and declined. But there was no big brouhaha. No gossipy bull shit like often gets spread.

Tommy and his family are royalty in my book for their comportment in Tommy's time at ND. Especially when it comes to dealing with asshat fans!
 

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I'm listening. I understand some folks like to think Reesus was instrumental in 2012 both on and off the field. I don't agree.

I do agree that Tommy gave it his all, gracefully accepted his demotion, avoided creating conflict, and overall was a good teammate. That's nice.

I also do understand that Brian Kelly has made obligatory compliments about the future of Reesus as a coach. I don't see it and I never did. I've seen QBs and other players on the sideline who exhibit traits I see as consistent with future head coaches. Being a vocal and motivational leader is a much better indicator in my book than whether you can read a defense or learn a playbook. Tommy simply doesn't carry himself in a way I could ever see boys above the age of about 14 looking up to and taking direction from.

So in conclusion, I don't ever want to see him coaching Notre Dame. I can't understand after all the pain and frustration of the last 4 years why anyone would want to be reminded of his tenure.

This entire comment is moronic. I would neg rep it, but I don't think it's malicious... I think its just stupidity.
 

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I'm listening. I understand some folks like to think Reesus was instrumental in 2012 both on and off the field. I don't agree.

I do agree that Tommy gave it his all, gracefully accepted his demotion, avoided creating conflict, and overall was a good teammate. That's nice.

I also do understand that Brian Kelly has made obligatory compliments about the future of Reesus as a coach. I don't see it and I never did. I've seen QBs and other players on the sideline who exhibit traits I see as consistent with future head coaches. Being a vocal and motivational leader is a much better indicator in my book than whether you can read a defense or learn a playbook. Tommy simply doesn't carry himself in a way I could ever see boys above the age of about 14 looking up to and taking direction from.

So in conclusion, I don't ever want to see him coaching Notre Dame. I can't understand after all the pain and frustration of the last 4 years why anyone would want to be reminded of his tenure.

I'll play.

I hope your children get straight A's in school. Because God forbid if they get a single C or even fail one test, they A) will never get a well paying job B) will never go to college C) are a failure in your eyes D)All of the above
 
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Bogtrotter07

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Have we piled-on and ganged up enough yet?

See in some weird way, over-dogging a negative or ignorant comment makes me feel the same way as dogging a guy that gave his best, even though it wasn't necessarily championship caliber!
 

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I'm listening. I understand some folks like to think Reesus was instrumental in 2012 both on and off the field. I don't agree.

I do agree that Tommy gave it his all, gracefully accepted his demotion, avoided creating conflict, and overall was a good teammate. That's nice.

I also do understand that Brian Kelly has made obligatory compliments about the future of Reesus as a coach. I don't see it and I never did. I've seen QBs and other players on the sideline who exhibit traits I see as consistent with future head coaches. Being a vocal and motivational leader is a much better indicator in my book than whether you can read a defense or learn a playbook. Tommy simply doesn't carry himself in a way I could ever see boys above the age of about 14 looking up to and taking direction from.

So in conclusion, I don't ever want to see him coaching Notre Dame. I can't understand after all the pain and frustration of the last 4 years why anyone would want to be reminded of his tenure.

Of course, you're the expert on Tommy Rees, because you know better than the coaches and players that played with him. A number of times guys like TJ and ZMart stood up to defend Tommy, despite the fact there were nasty, over the line comments from crazy fans towards Rees. I'm not even talking about the bullshit stuff like the fans booing him when he came off the bench against Purdue in 2012, I'm talking about the comments like "Eat **** and die in a fire, Tommy Rees." Some vile stuff was posted directly to Tommy on social media, some was not. All of it was uncalled for considering he was one of our student athletes.

Tommy was and can be a vocal and motivational player. Look at the USC game last year. He was playing a great game before getting knocked out, and during halftime he delivered a moving speech according to the players. Perhaps that speech, and his subsequent exit from the game, is what helped drive the defense to dig in and preserve the win despite Hendrix's struggles? Lets not forget that 2nd half...if Andrew had started in front of Tommy, we probably don't go to a bowl game last year. We probably don't go to a bowl game in 2010 either and beat Miami. For whatever reason, Andrew struggled more than Tommy did, which is why he was never able to pass him on the depth chart when Golson wasn't in the picture.

I disagree with your comment that vocal leadership is what makes a great coach. It certainly helps when you can motivate players, but that's just icing on the cake. Football IQ trumps motivation. It's easy to name more laid back coaches in a sport that have succeeded because of their minds and not their demeanor on the field or court...Bill Belichick, Phil Jackson, Gregg Popovich, Cheatey Petey, Saban to an extent, etc. All these guys are fairly reserved most times. It's much harder to name a good coach that's a motivational force and doesn't have a high football IQ to back it up.

Finally, I find it hilarious that you choose to categorize the last 4 years of "pain and frustration" as the fault of Tommy. First off, Tommy's class has won more games than any other since '93, and he started more than half of those games. Certainly Golson contributed to those wins, but so did Tommy. Also, lets not forget this is a team game. There are a number of games we lost in the last 4 years that had less to do with Tommy and more to do with coaching and complete defensive collapses like 2011 Michigan. You can't fault 1 player that gave 100% when there was no other player on the roster that could beat him on the depth chart. Didn't like 2013? If you're going to blame anyone, blame Golson, he's the one that screwed up. Don't blame the guy that came in to clean up his mess.
 

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Of course, you're the expert on Tommy Rees, because you know better than the coaches and players that played with him. A number of times guys like TJ and ZMart stood up to defend Tommy, despite the fact there were nasty, over the line comments from crazy fans towards Rees. I'm not even talking about the bullshit stuff like the fans booing him when he came off the bench against Purdue in 2012, I'm talking about the comments like "Eat **** and die in a fire, Tommy Rees." Some vile stuff was posted directly to Tommy on social media, some was not. All of it was uncalled for considering he was one of our student athletes.

Tommy was and can be a vocal and motivational player. Look at the USC game last year. He was playing a great game before getting knocked out, and during halftime he delivered a moving speech according to the players. Perhaps that speech, and his subsequent exit from the game, is what helped drive the defense to dig in and preserve the win despite Hendrix's struggles? Lets not forget that 2nd half...if Andrew had started in front of Tommy, we probably don't go to a bowl game last year. We probably don't go to a bowl game in 2010 either and beat Miami. For whatever reason, Andrew struggled more than Tommy did, which is why he was never able to pass him on the depth chart when Golson wasn't in the picture.

I disagree with your comment that vocal leadership is what makes a great coach. It certainly helps when you can motivate players, but that's just icing on the cake. Football IQ trumps motivation. It's easy to name more laid back coaches in a sport that have succeeded because of their minds and not their demeanor on the field or court...Bill Belichick, Phil Jackson, Gregg Popovich, Cheatey Petey, Saban to an extent, etc. All these guys are fairly reserved most times. It's much harder to name a good coach that's a motivational force and doesn't have a high football IQ to back it up.

Finally, I find it hilarious that you choose to categorize the last 4 years of "pain and frustration" as the fault of Tommy. First off, Tommy's class has won more games than any other since '93, and he started more than half of those games. Certainly Golson contributed to those wins, but so did Tommy. Also, lets not forget this is a team game. There are a number of games we lost in the last 4 years that had less to do with Tommy and more to do with coaching and complete defensive collapses like 2011 Michigan. You can't fault 1 player that gave 100% when there was no other player on the roster that could beat him on the depth chart. Didn't like 2013? If you're going to blame anyone, blame Golson, he's the one that screwed up. Don't blame the guy that came in to clean up his mess.
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I'm a Tommy supporter. I'm thankful for what he's done, wish him the best, and would gladly welcome him to the staff. However, I'm not a fan of participation metals.
 
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I'm a Tommy supporter. I'm thankful for what he's done, wish him the best, and would gladly welcome him to the staff. However, I'm not a fan of participation medals.

You mean medals? Fify. Interesting. Did you get one for spelling?


Edit : Please rep dshans on this one for me. It is his inspiration that has led me to a moer pious and careful life.
 
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I'm a Tommy supporter. I'm thankful for what he's done, wish him the best, and would gladly welcome him to the staff. However, I'm not a fan of participation metals.

I agree, I'm not a big fan of participation medals, but at the same time I hate to see a kid endure being burned at the stake, especially one of our own guys. He wasn't perfect, but that doesn't mean he didn't accomplish anything while he played for us. The guy was 2-1 in bowl games for us...who was the last QB that won us 2 bowl games? He helped end the decade long losing streak against USC, and he probably played well enough for us to win the 3 games he started. The guy won a good number of games as a starter, just not as many as people would like. Many fans choose to forget the games he won and focus on those games he didn't. He's probably one of the most polarizing QBs we've had in some time.
 

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I'm listening. I understand some folks like to think Reesus was instrumental in 2012 both on and off the field. I don't agree.

I do agree that Tommy gave it his all, gracefully accepted his demotion, avoided creating conflict, and overall was a good teammate. That's nice.

I also do understand that Brian Kelly has made obligatory compliments about the future of Reesus as a coach. I don't see it and I never did. I've seen QBs and other players on the sideline who exhibit traits I see as consistent with future head coaches. Being a vocal and motivational leader is a much better indicator in my book than whether you can read a defense or learn a playbook. Tommy simply doesn't carry himself in a way I could ever see boys above the age of about 14 looking up to and taking direction from.

So in conclusion, I don't ever want to see him coaching Notre Dame. I can't understand after all the pain and frustration of the last 4 years why anyone would want to be reminded of his tenure.

Believe me when I say that your life would have seen a lot more pain and frustration had Tommy not played in the games he had to. That's what happens when you play the best person available.
 

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I didn't get either. Medal or metal. Sonofabitch

Just sign up for my class: Wise Ass – Picky Ass 101. It's affordable (PayPal accepted) and all my graduates have moved on to Derision 202 and Groan 501 - a graduate level course.
 
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Glad for Tommy. Have a great coaching career.

And I hope to see Everett change us into some plays based on proper pre-snap reads the way Tommy could.
 

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The former Irish quarterback is now ready for life after quarterbacking, getting set to embark on a coaching career that’ll likely start this January as a Graduate Assistant. Set to be back on campus for an experience that’ll likely be “very weird,” ...

Does that imply that he will be a GA at ND?
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>You got 8 in the box, and you run QB power?</p>— Tommy Rees (@t_rees11) <a href="https://twitter.com/t_rees11/status/514245342511251456">September 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/t_rees11">@t_rees11</a> you tell em tom</p>— Joe Schmidt IV (@joeschmidtiv) <a href="https://twitter.com/joeschmidtiv/status/514246488424062976">September 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/joeschmidtiv">@joeschmidtiv</a> it'd be a different story if I was running it..</p>— Tommy Rees (@t_rees11) <a href="https://twitter.com/t_rees11/status/514246583832293376">September 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Apparently the Jets ran Geno Smith into a stacked box and got nothing. Rees questioned the call, and then joked to Schmidt that it'd have been different with him under center.

Just Tommy poking fun at his own lack of mobility.
 

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For some reason I thought he was commenting on a ND play. Thank you for explaining Whiskey
 
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