'10 IL QB Tommy Rees (Notre Dame Man)

[koonja]

to be fair he was prolly only there in the first place as a favour to matt lefleur..

I seriously doubt that. The NFL is a cut throat league, and Lafeur may never even have met Tommy, who knows. He certainly doesn't owe Tommy anything.

 

[dublinirish]

LaFleur orchestrated Tommy's pro day. I would say its more laFleur, former Redskins QB coach using his influence to get Tommy an UDFA offer there..

 

[koonja]

LaFleur orchestrated Tommy's pro day. I would say its more laFleur, former Redskins QB coach using his influence to get Tommy an UDFA offer there..

I mean, you could be right, I obviously don't know for sure. And I'm as ready to move on from Tommy as anyone, but I think he probably got that week with the Redskins on his own merit. If Lafeur was life long friends or coached Tommy, I'm sure they'd hear his opinion, but I doubt he had any influence on this one.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Any ND fan should know this. I don't think I've ever been more frustrated watching the offense than in those Pitt and ASU games. Good Luck Tommy but.. See ya.

He was never going to be an NFL QB. But where would we have been the last 3-4 years without him? Certainly wouldn't have played in the national championship game. Very grateful for that.

 

[GATTACA!]

would be great to get him on staff in the video room.

would be a great guy to have in the video room working with all the young QB's

Also would be good guy to have him in the video room.

I think having him in the video room would be really good

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

People say Tommy would make a good coach because his dad was a bigtime college football/NFL coach and personnel man, so football analysis is the family business, and by all accounts Tommy was an absolute beast in the film room and a great help to other quarterbacks, such as Everett, who were trying to learn the defense, despite the fact that he was actively competing with them. It is 100% false that Tommy never distinguished himself as a teacher. Kelly repeatedly said that Tommy was a great teammate and a leader as well, for whom every player in the locker room would "go to the wall" (whatever that means; Kelly's phrase, not mine).

Good points, and to answer his second question - yes, Tommy has expressed interest multiple times in coaching.

 

[IrishLax]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Not surprised the <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Redskins&src=hash">#Redskins</a> cut the QB Rees. So inaccurate it was hard to evaluate the pass catchers. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RedskinsTalk&src=hash">#RedskinsTalk</a></p>— Rich Tandler (@Rich_TandlerCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rich_TandlerCSN/statuses/467812791307345920">May 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
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It's stuff like this that makes me super pumped for the offense this year.* It's crazy to think that we went 9-4 against a schedule that difficult with a QB as limited as Rees.

*Assuming the loss of two top OL on the left side isn't earth shattering. Seriously, the #1 question mark to me is how well you replace guys as consistent as Martin-Watt.

 

[pumpdog20]

A lot of people over the years have said they think Tommy will make a good coach.

Two questions...

Why?

Has he ever expressed interest?


I ask because I don't see a coach in him at all. A coach is a leader and a teacher. Did you ever feel like the team was rallying around his leadership? Even when he had good moments, I don't feel like others around him looked up to him.

I think people say this because he could 'read a defense' but any kid with Madden or EA Sports NCAA football can read a defense.

Yeah, we all can be as good as Tommy Rees at reading defenses, SMH.

 

[tadman95]

I always thought Tommy's accuracy (or lack of) was at least as important as his lack of arm strength. maybe more so. Getting cut after the first mini-camp does not bode well.

I also think we would have been in a world of hurt without him the last 4 years. Glad he was there for us.

 

[ulukinatme]

A lot of people over the years have said they think Tommy will make a good coach.

Two questions...

Why?

Has he ever expressed interest?


I ask because I don't see a coach in him at all. A coach is a leader and a teacher. Did you ever feel like the team was rallying around his leadership? Even when he had good moments, I don't feel like others around him looked up to him.

I think people say this because he could 'read a defense' but any kid with Madden or EA Sports NCAA football can read a defense.

It's been said from people within the organization that Tommy has a great understanding of the game and film, something he most likely learned from hather. He also has expressed interest in coaching, but he wanted to at least see how far he could go playing the game first. Kelly has said to the press in the past that he would love to have Tommy on staff as a grad assistant. I highly doubt he would want a guy that isn't a good teacher to be a grad assistant for him.

As far as Tommy as a leader and a teacher, have you even followed the team the last 4 years? Tommy helped tutor Golson as he was taking over in 2012, despite the fact he was giving up his spot to him. He helped him much in the way that Spond helped Jaylon last year. As for the team rallying around his leadership, we know for a fact that it happened in at least one game last year, USC. Tommy delivered a speech at halftime that really motivated the team and that may be part of the reason our defense rallied to kept us in the game. It's amazing we didn't lose that game when you consider Hendrix didn't complete one pass in the 2nd half when Tommy got hurt, and he had only 5 yards on 6 carries. I'm sure there were other times the team rallied behind him, but not every player can be like Te'o was on the field.

I'm not even going to touch that last comment. Come back when you've played a down of college football, then tell me how ignorant your last statement was. In fact, theres a number of ignorant statements in your post. If you don't play on the team, and you don't know anyone on the team, and you don't read the interviews or watch the game day videos the school puts out, you should probably not make assumptions.

 

[PANDFAN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>BK also mentioned that Tommy Rees has given up the NFL dream and is trying to get into coaching. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a></p>— Matt Fortuna (@Matt_Fortuna) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matt_Fortuna/statuses/496349865728020481">August 4, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Old Man Mike]

Possibly the least surprising development in football history

 

[ulukinatme]

Any guesses where he will land? I can't imagine he's going to take a job this season considering how close we are to kick off. I could see him as a GA next season if we have some more turnover among the coaches. If he doesn't go to ND, I'd bet he'd land on Miami Ohio's staff.

 

[GoldenDomer]

It would be nice to have him be a mentor to Malik going further.

 

[ulukinatme]

It would be nice to have him be a mentor to Malik going further.

That's what I was thinking. While Tommy certainly wasn't mobile like Malik, Golson is in the same mold and Tommy definitely helped Golson's maturation during the 2012 season despite losing his spot to him.

 

[stlnd01]

Would frankly be surprised if his first stop is at Notre Dame. Not that he couldn't hack it as a GA there. He could. But might be better served somewhere else, getting a little separation from the program/fan base. Also, it would seem a little odd to be a coach among players you've played alongside for two or three years.

 

[JTLA]

It would be nice to have him be a mentor to Malik going further.

why? dear lord, why?

some of you are worse than Ray Rice's wife.

 

[MNIrishman]

How many GA spots do programs have usually?

 

[pkt77242]

why? dear lord, why?

some of you are worse than Ray Rice's wife.

Tommy Rees: The Teammate | Irish Sports Daily

Get yourself an edumucation on Tommy Rees Quarterback Guru.

In all honesty I think that it might be best if Tommy went somewhere else for a year or two but I wouldn't have an issue with him coming back to ND in a coaching capacity. There are many articles out there talking about how much Rees helped Golson in 2012.

I found this quote interesting.

"I'm a Tommy Rees fan for life. … He'll keep trying to play the game as long as he can," Kelly said. "But I told him, he's got a bright future as a graduate assistant for Brian Kelly anytime."

Tommy Rees leaves Notre Dame with head held high | CSN Chicago

 

[dublinirish]

when i saw this thread bumped i had actually presumed TR was at practice yesterday in some sort of coaching role.

 

[ulukinatme]

why? dear lord, why?

some of you are worse than Ray Rice's wife.

Tommy Rees: The Teammate | Irish Sports Daily

Get yourself an edumucation on Tommy Rees Quarterback Guru.

In all honesty I think that it might be best if Tommy went somewhere else for a year or two but I wouldn't have an issue with him coming back to ND in a coaching capacity. There are many articles out there talking about how much Rees helped Golson in 2012.

I found this quote interesting.

"I'm a Tommy Rees fan for life. … He'll keep trying to play the game as long as he can," Kelly said. "But I told him, he's got a bright future as a graduate assistant for Brian Kelly anytime."

Tommy Rees leaves Notre Dame with head held high | CSN Chicago

Listen to this guy, JTLA. Tommy had a hand in the 2012 season, and not just when he came in for Golson when he was banged up or struggling. He spent his time helping to coach Golson up, despite the fact the guy took his spot. There's a reason Kelly speaks highly of him and why Rees ended up taking the field over guys that were more gifted athletically.

 

[JTLA]

Listen to this guy, JTLA. Tommy had a hand in the 2012 season, and not just when he came in for Golson when he was banged up or struggling. He spent his time helping to coach Golson up, despite the fact the guy took his spot. There's a reason Kelly speaks highly of him and why Rees ended up taking the field over guys that were more gifted athletically.

I'm listening. I understand some folks like to think Reesus was instrumental in 2012 both on and off the field. I don't agree.

I do agree that Tommy gave it his all, gracefully accepted his demotion, avoided creating conflict, and overall was a good teammate. That's nice.

I also do understand that Brian Kelly has made obligatory compliments about the future of Reesus as a coach. I don't see it and I never did. I've seen QBs and other players on the sideline who exhibit traits I see as consistent with future head coaches. Being a vocal and motivational leader is a much better indicator in my book than whether you can read a defense or learn a playbook. Tommy simply doesn't carry himself in a way I could ever see boys above the age of about 14 looking up to and taking direction from.

So in conclusion, I don't ever want to see him coaching Notre Dame. I can't understand after all the pain and frustration of the last 4 years why anyone would want to be reminded of his tenure.

 

[NCND]

I'm listening. I understand some folks like to think Reesus was instrumental in 2012 both on and off the field. I don't agree.

I do agree that Tommy gave it his all, gracefully accepted his demotion, avoided creating conflict, and overall was a good teammate. That's nice.

I also do understand that Brian Kelly has made obligatory compliments about the future of Reesus as a coach. I don't see it and I never did. I've seen QBs and other players on the sideline who exhibit traits I see as consistent with future head coaches. Being a vocal and motivational leader is a much better indicator in my book than whether you can read a defense or learn a playbook. Tommy simply doesn't carry himself in a way I could ever see boys above the age of about 14 looking up to and taking direction from.

So in conclusion, I don't ever want to see him coaching Notre Dame. I can't understand after all the pain and frustration of the last 4 years why anyone would want to be reminded of his tenure.

All due respect to Tommy but I agree with everything you posted.

 

[pkt77242]

I'm listening. I understand some folks like to think Reesus was instrumental in 2012 both on and off the field. I don't agree.

I do agree that Tommy gave it his all, gracefully accepted his demotion, avoided creating conflict, and overall was a good teammate. That's nice.

I also do understand that Brian Kelly has made obligatory compliments about the future of Reesus as a coach. I don't see it and I never did. I've seen QBs and other players on the sideline who exhibit traits I see as consistent with future head coaches. Being a vocal and motivational leader is a much better indicator in my book than whether you can read a defense or learn a playbook. Tommy simply doesn't carry himself in a way I could ever see boys above the age of about 14 looking up to and taking direction from.

So in conclusion, I don't ever want to see him coaching Notre Dame. I can't understand after all the pain and frustration of the last 4 years why anyone would want to be reminded of his tenure.

So you will ignore what all of his teammates and coaches say about him because you know better? What did I miss? How was he not a vocal leader? You realize that many highly esteemed teammates have called him one of the leaders of the team (Martin, Watt, etc), right? Feel free to believe what you want, but the evidence from everyone close to the team (players and coaches) say completely different things then what you believe.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

'10 IL QB Tommy Rees (Notre Dame Man)

I also do understand that Brian Kelly has made obligatory compliments about the future of Reesus as a coach. I don't see it and I never did. I've seen QBs and other players on the sideline who exhibit traits I see as consistent with future head coaches. Being a vocal and motivational leader is a much better indicator in my book than whether you can read a defense or learn a playbook. Tommy simply doesn't carry himself in a way I could ever see boys above the age of about 14 looking up to and taking direction from.

In what sense were those BK comments obligatory?

How do you have any clue what kind of coach Tommy would be?

Care to elaborate on why being vocal and motivational is more important than a deep understanding of offenses, defenses, and the mechanics of the position when we are talking about a QB coach?

I don't mean to come off cross but this paragraph has simply left me scratching my head. Nowhere in it did you actually address the merits of a position coach and whether or not Tommy has them.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Don't understand the negative feelings toward Rees. He played his heart out all the while not being the most gifted athlete out there. He looked more like a coach to me than a QB. He knew the offense, make the correct reads more often than not, and seemed to genuinely care about his teammates. If he would have been a little more gifted athletically, the conversations and memories of him would be a lot different. But he never quit. Even when it got rough for him. And from the outside looking in, he showed he had the character needed to take some pretty harsh criticism. All those things together add up to a person who would seem to have the intangibles necessary to be an effective coach one day.

 

[irishfan]

I'm listening. I understand some folks like to think Reesus was instrumental in 2012 both on and off the field. I don't agree.

I don't disagree with everything, but I disagree with this. Who knows how much he helped Golson off the field? Maybe not that much. But he was very important on the field for us. We don't beat Stanford without Golson. Can you imagine Hendrix leading us to game-tying FG than a TD in OT? We don't beat BYU without him. Again, Hendrix for 4 quarters would just be painful. Maybe we beat Michigan and Purdue without Rees, but again, who knows? EG was shitting the bed against Michigan and who knows if he could have led a 2-minute drill against Purdue. We are 10-2 at the best without Rees in 2012 IMO. Actually, this would have been better lol we could've played Kansas State or Louisville in a BCS game.

And I'm guessing people assume Rees would coach due to his Dad and the fact that he felt the need to audible every single play. I'm with you though, I'd rather see him go somewhere else to coach. Maybe come back in a few years as a QB Coach but only if he's proven himself elsewhere.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I don't disagree with everything, but I disagree with this. Who knows how much he helped Golson off the field? Maybe not that much. But he was very important on the field for us. We don't beat Stanford without Golson. Can you imagine Hendrix leading us to game-tying FG than a TD in OT? We don't beat BYU without him. Again, Hendrix for 4 quarters would just be painful. Maybe we beat Michigan and Purdue without Rees, but again, who knows? EG was shitting the bed against Michigan and who knows if he could have led a 2-minute drill against Purdue. We are 10-2 at the best without Rees in 2012 IMO. Actually, this would have been better lol we could've played Kansas State or Louisville in a BCS game.

And I'm guessing people assume Rees would coach due to his Dad and the fact that he felt the need to audible every single play. I'm with you though, I'd rather see him go somewhere else to coach. Maybe come back in a few years as a QB Coach but only if he's proven himself elsewhere.

I do. Rees was the only touchdown scored in that game, running or otherwise. And in the 4th with the game on the line he threw a chain mover to Eifert that guaranteed if we didn't run out the clock, UM would have a real long way to go with almost no time.

 

[Emcee77]

I've seen QBs and other players on the sideline who exhibit traits I see as consistent with future head coaches. Being a vocal and motivational leader is a much better indicator in my book than whether you can read a defense or learn a playbook. Tommy simply doesn't carry himself in a way I could ever see boys above the age of about 14 looking up to and taking direction from.

I have all the same questions Kane had, plus I don't get why we are now talking about whether Rees can be a future head coach. The original question was whether he had a future in coaching, not whether he could be a head coach.

Even if we assume that you are right and Rees doesn't have the attributes a successful head coach must have as you've described them,

(but let me be clear ... I do not actually agree with that conclusion because (a) I put more stock in what Kelly and Rees's teammates have said about him than in your belief that Rees doesn't carry himself like a leader so he must not be one, and (b) I also do not accept the premise that a player who does not have a certain bearing as a fiery, vocal motivator is not a good head coaching prospect),

a coaching staff surely needs someone who can do the things we know for sure Rees can do ... break down game film and teach players how to execute a particular system, in addition to vocal leaders/motivators. Why would the fact that Rees isn't a vocal leader/motivator (again, assuming it's true that he isn't, contrary to what we have all heard he is, based only on your assessment of his bearing) preclude him from joining a coaching staff in any capacity?

 

[Grahambo]

I'm listening. I understand some folks like to think Reesus was instrumental in 2012 both on and off the field. I don't agree.

I do agree that Tommy gave it his all, gracefully accepted his demotion, avoided creating conflict, and overall was a good teammate. That's nice.

I also do understand that Brian Kelly has made obligatory compliments about the future of Reesus as a coach. I don't see it and I never did. I've seen QBs and other players on the sideline who exhibit traits I see as consistent with future head coaches. Being a vocal and motivational leader is a much better indicator in my book than whether you can read a defense or learn a playbook. Tommy simply doesn't carry himself in a way I could ever see boys above the age of about 14 looking up to and taking direction from.

So in conclusion, I don't ever want to see him coaching Notre Dame. I can't understand after all the pain and frustration of the last 4 years why anyone would want to be reminded of his tenure.

I disagree on so many levels. I don't know your background so I won't get into this topic with you.

The best route for Tommy to take is to hit the road on the coaching trail. Try to get involved with a couple of different programs and learn from different coaches, not just from BK. Its best to diversify his coaching portfolio.